Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by cNiner:oh the ironing
this Moran thiks we are stupid like him, Sing that is ,
he wants to bring Ray down as if the play calling going to change
trying to convince us that Alex's throws are perfect
And Craptree did not learn or can't learn the playbook just like who Nate Davis the best pure passer on the team. and Craptree the best WR on the team . if this Moran can't coach them up than its him , this is coaching not motivational speaking Sing !
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Sep 14, 2010 at 1:07 PM
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Sep 14, 2010 at 1:08 PM
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Originally posted by LambdaChi49:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by cNiner:oh the ironing
this Moran thiks we are stupid like him, Sing that is ,
he wants to bring Ray down as if the play calling going to change
trying to convince us that Alex's throws are perfect
And Craptree did not learn or can't learn the playbook just like who Nate Davis the best pure passer on the team. and Craptree the best WR on the team . if this Moran can't coach them up than its him , this is coaching not motivational speaking Sing !
Sep 14, 2010 at 1:25 PM
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
nobody puts baby in the corner
[ Edited by pelos21 on Sep 14, 2010 at 13:28:51 ]
Sep 14, 2010 at 1:35 PM
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by Shaj:
Singletary is officially an idiot. If he thinks most of Smith's throws were outstanding, then he is going to lose not only the media, but also the locker room and the fan base. Rule #1 of being a respected leader is to not blow sunshine up people's asses undeservedly. Now if he really believe what he said and didn't intend to blow sunshine, then we have an even bigger problem.
Bill Cowher in red and gold in 2011!!!!!
All the reports after the game were that Sing called out Alex for his play.
Before he watched the film.
Once he did see it I think he realized, like anyone with the ability for critical though process, that Smith played much better than people think and he did make a lot of outstanding throws.
I agree that Alex made some good throws but he did make some bad throws. I also agree that he didnt play as bad as everyone says he did.
The plays Alex f**ked up on were huge though and thats all anybody will remember
he needs to turn it around this week
I don't know that he F'd up on any of the huge plays.
The called-back TD to Morgan? Was it too high? Was Morgan supposed to be a yard further back in the end zone? I am not arrogant enough to say I know. It was real close either way and could have EASILY been a TD.
The Norris non-TD was a GREAT throw, Norris just decided to turn around at the 5 yd line and take himself out of the play for some unknown reason.
The 1st Crabtree pick was 100% Crabtree.
The 2nd pick could have been all on Smith or all on Crabtree. We don't know. It looks to me like Crabtree ran the wrong route. Either way it wasn't necessarily a poorly thrown ball, he threw it to where he thought the receiver would be. Either Crabtree or Alex made a mistake on the route. Was the receiver supposed to be there or did Crabtree do everything right? NOT ONE OF US KNOWS THE ANSWER.
The throw to Ginn. Who knows? Did Ginn look over the wrong shoulder or did Smith throw it to the wrong place? It's not like those are completed on a regular basis in the NFL though. Rodgers, Romo, and Manning throw those passes all game long and complete maybe 25% of them. The 49ers went for it ONCE in the whole game. I don;t know why people think Smith can't make that play because he didn't complete 100% of them in the first game of the season.
What Smith did very wrong is break down as the entire team started breaking down. In the 2nd half when the O line play got even worse and the D disappeared Smith reverted to his old bad habits... Rolling right when the pocket broke down instead of stepping up into it and making a throw, making poor throws on the run, throwing high, etc. But until that point he played just fine. Not great but plenty good enough to win an NFL game if the rest of the team was playing well.
This is the same s**t you could say for about 75% of A. Smiths games.
Not really. Every game is it's own animal with a lot going on that must be analyzed and evaluated on it's own merit. You can say the same about every play in the NFL actually. Only simpletons don't understand this.
Sep 14, 2010 at 2:52 PM
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Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by LambdaChi49:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by cNiner:oh the ironing
this Moran thiks we are stupid like him, Sing that is ,
he wants to bring Ray down as if the play calling going to change
trying to convince us that Alex's throws are perfect
And Craptree did not learn or can't learn the playbook just like who Nate Davis the best pure passer on the team. and Craptree the best WR on the team . if this Moran can't coach them up than its him , this is coaching not motivational speaking Sing !
bahahahahah omg. hahahaha
Sep 14, 2010 at 2:54 PM
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This is nolan all over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't get fooled again. I'm no longer buying what he's selling.
Sep 14, 2010 at 3:34 PM
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Originally posted by teeohh:
This is nolan all over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't get fooled again. I'm no longer buying what he's selling.
That's the thing, he has nothing to sell. He already said he relies on his assistants. All Sing can provide this team is belief and it seemed as the team lost belief in the SEA game which means Sing is not a good option in the long run.
Sep 14, 2010 at 3:48 PM
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Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by teeohh:
This is nolan all over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't get fooled again. I'm no longer buying what he's selling.
That's the thing, he has nothing to sell. He already said he relies on his assistants. All Sing can provide this team is belief and it seemed as the team lost belief in the SEA game which means Sing is not a good option in the long run.
Sing is a hell of a teacher for defensive players, especially linebackers.
I also think he's a good fit for head coach so long as the right coordinators are in place. That's the problem. We definitely have the right guy coordinating the D, but the wrong guy on the offensive side.
Sep 14, 2010 at 3:52 PM
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Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by teeohh:
This is nolan all over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't get fooled again. I'm no longer buying what he's selling.
That's the thing, he has nothing to sell. He already said he relies on his assistants. All Sing can provide this team is belief and it seemed as the team lost belief in the SEA game which means Sing is not a good option in the long run.
Sing is a hell of a teacher for defensive players, especially linebackers.
I also think he's a good fit for head coach so long as the right coordinators are in place. That's the problem. We definitely have the right guy coordinating the D, but the wrong guy on the offensive side.
You know what the bold tells me? We have a position coach as a head coach. Position coaches don't know how the entire offense or defense works. Position coaches don't even need to worry about down and distance and clock management as do Coordinators. We got outcoached a lot last year. Expect it to happen a few more times this year.
Sep 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM
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Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by teeohh:
This is nolan all over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't get fooled again. I'm no longer buying what he's selling.
That's the thing, he has nothing to sell. He already said he relies on his assistants. All Sing can provide this team is belief and it seemed as the team lost belief in the SEA game which means Sing is not a good option in the long run.
Sing is a hell of a teacher for defensive players, especially linebackers.
I also think he's a good fit for head coach so long as the right coordinators are in place. That's the problem. We definitely have the right guy coordinating the D, but the wrong guy on the offensive side.
You know what the bold tells me? We have a position coach as a head coach. Position coaches don't know how the entire offense or defense works. Position coaches don't even need to worry about down and distance and clock management as do Coordinators. We got outcoached a lot last year. Expect it to happen a few more times this year.
So because he's a good teacher he doesn't know how an offense or defense works? This is the kind of thinking that makes this place such a joke. Such leaps in logic is the reason there are hundreds of new retarded threads every day.
How does that make any sense? Because someone is good at something that automatically means they are not good at something else? Right, that makes a lot of sense.
It makes even less sense when you are talking about a Hall Of Fame middle linebacker that had to know the entire defense and call the defensive plays based on what the opposition's offense was showing. And he had to do all that in a span of about 10 -1 5 seconds 50+ times a game. You couldn't make any less sense. Ya, that guy doesn't have the capacity to understand the offense and defense, and you know this because he is a good teacher.
Sep 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM
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Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by teeohh:
This is nolan all over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't get fooled again. I'm no longer buying what he's selling.
That's the thing, he has nothing to sell. He already said he relies on his assistants. All Sing can provide this team is belief and it seemed as the team lost belief in the SEA game which means Sing is not a good option in the long run.
Sing is a hell of a teacher for defensive players, especially linebackers.
I also think he's a good fit for head coach so long as the right coordinators are in place. That's the problem. We definitely have the right guy coordinating the D, but the wrong guy on the offensive side.
You know what the bold tells me? We have a position coach as a head coach. Position coaches don't know how the entire offense or defense works. Position coaches don't even need to worry about down and distance and clock management as do Coordinators. We got outcoached a lot last year. Expect it to happen a few more times this year.
So because he's a good teacher he doesn't know how an offense or defense works? This is the kind of thinking that makes this place such a joke. Such leaps in logic is the reason there are hundreds of new retarded threads every day.
How does that make any sense? Because someone is good at something that automatically means they are not good at something else? Right, that makes a lot of sense.
It makes even less sense when you are talking about a Hall Of Fame middle linebacker that had to know the entire defense and call the defensive plays based on what the opposition's offense was showing. And he had to do all that in a span of about 10 -1 5 seconds 50+ times a game. You couldn't make any less sense. Ya, that guy doesn't have the capacity to understand the offense and defense, and you know this because he is a good teacher.
A Math teacher doesn't make a good English teacher. He has no game prep skills as we have seen. We have also seen that he doesn't have a backup plan or is never ready to use a backup plan when needed. He has allowed the coordinators too much control and is not able to see that the "plan" isn't working and request the OC make an adjustment or tell the OC in the 2nd quarter that some of the opposition has changed methods and some of these things won't work.
How can you say he knows what he is doing when everything last year and now this year has pointed to gametime mismanagement or lack of adjustments. If you put that on the Coordinators, then that proves Singletary isn't qualified to take control of the situation and devise an immediate counteractive plan.
He should be able to already know if Crabs was at fault on a route or if Alex was once the play is called and the execution is f**ked up. He didn't know that and doesn't know it until he sees the film and Raye explains the details to him.
Telling a rookie lineman to stay low isn't teaching. Telling him that when the DE shifts this way, they are playing this type of defense so do this is teaching. Singletary give general common knowledge advice and cannot get into specifics when its needed as HC must do.
[ Edited by Joecool on Sep 14, 2010 at 16:18:49 ]
Sep 14, 2010 at 4:31 PM
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Singletary shouldn't be given so much control over personal decisions...imo.
Sep 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM
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Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Gavintech:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by teeohh:
This is nolan all over again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice you can't get fooled again. I'm no longer buying what he's selling.
That's the thing, he has nothing to sell. He already said he relies on his assistants. All Sing can provide this team is belief and it seemed as the team lost belief in the SEA game which means Sing is not a good option in the long run.
Sing is a hell of a teacher for defensive players, especially linebackers.
I also think he's a good fit for head coach so long as the right coordinators are in place. That's the problem. We definitely have the right guy coordinating the D, but the wrong guy on the offensive side.
You know what the bold tells me? We have a position coach as a head coach. Position coaches don't know how the entire offense or defense works. Position coaches don't even need to worry about down and distance and clock management as do Coordinators. We got outcoached a lot last year. Expect it to happen a few more times this year.
So because he's a good teacher he doesn't know how an offense or defense works? This is the kind of thinking that makes this place such a joke. Such leaps in logic is the reason there are hundreds of new retarded threads every day.
How does that make any sense? Because someone is good at something that automatically means they are not good at something else? Right, that makes a lot of sense.
It makes even less sense when you are talking about a Hall Of Fame middle linebacker that had to know the entire defense and call the defensive plays based on what the opposition's offense was showing. And he had to do all that in a span of about 10 -1 5 seconds 50+ times a game. You couldn't make any less sense. Ya, that guy doesn't have the capacity to understand the offense and defense, and you know this because he is a good teacher.
A Math teacher doesn't make a good English teacher.
A math teacher CAN make a good English teacher. Just because someone is a good math teacher doesn't mean they are not a good English teacher. Don't be simple.
Originally posted by Joecool:
He has no game prep skills as we have seen. We have also seen that he doesn't have a backup plan or is never ready to use a backup plan when needed. He has allowed the coordinators too much control and is not able to see that the "plan" isn't working and request the OC make an adjustment or tell the OC in the 2nd quarter that some of the opposition has changed methods and some of these things won't work.
I'm not arrogant enough to think that I can know any of these things to be true. The problem is you think the most simple explanation is always fact.
Originally posted by Joecool:
How can you say he knows what he is doing when everything last year and now this year has pointed to gametime mismanagement or lack of adjustments. If you put that on the Coordinators, then that proves Singletary isn't qualified to take control of the situation and devise an immediate counteractive plan.
I never said he knows what he is doing. I responded directly to your comment, nothing else. You said that because he is a good teacher it tells you that he is only a position coach and is incapable of being a good head coach. That logic is, well, not logical. It makes no sense.
Originally posted by Joecool:
He should be able to already know if Crabs was at fault on a route or if Alex was once the play is called and the execution is f**ked up. He didn't know that and doesn't know it until he sees the film and Raye explains the details to him.
I don't know about that. If he's not calling the plays how is he supposed to know from the sideline what happened? Hell, even the OC probably has to look at film to see what happened (and not just because Raye is incompetent, any OC).
Originally posted by Joecool:
Telling a rookie lineman to stay low isn't teaching. Telling him that when the DE shifts this way, they are playing this type of defense so do this is teaching.
So now you're saying he's not a good teacher. HEY, GOOD NEWS EVERYONE, SINGLETARY IS NOT A GOOD TEACHER SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS HE IS A GOOD HEAD COACH
Sep 14, 2010 at 4:43 PM
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Originally posted by Afrikan:
Singletary shouldn't be given so much control over personal decisions...imo.
How do you know he does? Because it's said so on the WZ? Because a blogger writes about it? Honestly, none of us know the intricate details of how all this works. Maybe he has less control of personnel than you think?