Now, with VD signed, Here is my look towards 2011

I know its way way way too early.

But its always fun to look ahead.

Ok, Guys we have signed thru long term, between 2013-2017.

2017- LT 74 Joe Staley
2016- ILB 52 Patrick Willis
2015- TE 85 Vernon Davis
2014- WR 15 Michael Crabtree
2014- LS 86 Brian Jennings
2014- RT 76 Anthony Davis
2014- LG 77 Mike Iupati
2013- CB 25 Tarell Brown
2013- DE 94 Justin Smith- Potential extension
2013- CB 22 Nate Clements- Need to re-do deal
2013- TE 82 Nate Byham
2013- SS 23 Taylor Mays
2013- ILB 53 Navorro Bowman
2013- WR/RS 10 Kyle Williams
2013- RB 24 Anthony Dixon
2013- CB/RS 35 Phillip Adams
2013- OLB 98 Parys Haralson- Possible Cut

now; 2012-2011 guys;

2012- ILB 56 Scott McKillop
2012- P 4 Andy Lee- Needs extension
2012- CB 36 Shawntae Spencer- Needs extension
2012- DE 90 Isaac Sopoaga- Possible cut
2012- TE 46 Delanie Walker- potential extension
2012- NT 95 Ricky Jean Francois
2012- FS 28 Curtis Taylor
2011- SS 30 Reggie Smith
2011- RB 21 Frank Gore- Extend him NOW
2011- OT 75 Alex Boone- Signed, and have rights for a good length
2011- WR 19 Ted Ginn Jr.- Potential extension, based off 2010 season
2011- OLB 55 Ahmad Brooks- Extension if he breaks out again
2011- WR 84 Josh Morgan- Extend soon
2011- WR 17 Dominique Zeigler- Same as Boone
2011- QB 5 David Carr- Gone after 2011
2011- OG 68 Adam Snyder- Cut Him
2011- PK 6 Joe Nedney- Potential Keep till we find long term replacement
2011- RG 62 Chilo Rachal
2011- C 66 Eric Heitmann
2011- FB 44 Moran Norris- Gone after 2011

then our FA's after 2010:

Alex Smith, Troy Smith, Brian Westbrook, Diyral Briggs, Manny Lawson, Ray McDonald, Takeo Spikes, Dashon Goldson, Michael Lewis, Aubrayo Franklin, David Baas, Tony Wragge

So, I would keep the following if price is right.

Manny, Alex, Dashon or Franklin, Takeo and McDonald

Then draft a CB, OG/OT, C, DE, ILB, NT and maybe a OLB and S

can we sign alex, manny, goldson, and franklin and a 1st round pick with our salary cap?

I like spikes, If he stays productive and cheap I hope they re-sign him. He's getting old but he said he wants to play 2 more years.

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
can we sign alex, manny, goldson, and franklin and a 1st round pick with our salary cap?

we can i project between 43 and 51M in cap space for next season.

I figure 5M for Alex, 5M for Dashon, 7M for Aubrayo and 5M for Manny then another 6M for draftees

So thats 28M used, so its doable, then McDonald(1.5M), Spikes(3M), save $7M for emergencies during season.

That leaves 16.5M so we could sign a few FAs nothing big tho, i think we have learned it isnt a good idea to sign FAs to big deals.

Then we could extend Gore, Spencer and Smith if we wanted too with clever structuring.

So, I honestly dontt see all 4 making it next yr(Dashon, Manny, Aubrayo and Alex), 1 is gone IMO. Most likely is Aubrayo if RJF shows promise, if not then Dashon is gone.

If Alex Smith can lead the team to the playoffs, re-sign him. Anything less, give him the boot.

If Baas plays well at center, we need to re-sign him as well.

^^ how the hell do we always have so much cap room?

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
^^ how the hell do we always have so much cap room?

1. In an uncapped yr we should and have front loaded VD and Willis.

2. Good cap management, by not loading up on 1 yr, but spreading out over many seasons.

3. Having dummy years players wont see, Nate Clements comes to mind.

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
^^ how the hell do we always have so much cap room?

1. In an uncapped yr we should and have front loaded VD and Willis.

2. Good cap management, by not loading up on 1 yr, but spreading out over many seasons.

3. Having dummy years players wont see, Nate Clements comes to mind.

I've always wondered about those (extra) years. The agents don't mention anything, or is there enough contract jargon that it gets lost in there?

edit: by the way, great job on the numbers, always look forward to reading one of your topics.

[ Edited by OregonNiner87 on Sep 11, 2010 at 18:13:11 ]

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
can we sign alex, manny, goldson, and franklin and a 1st round pick with our salary cap?

we can i project between 43 and 51M in cap space for next season.

I figure 5M for Alex, 5M for Dashon, 7M for Aubrayo and 5M for Manny then another 6M for draftees

So thats 28M used, so its doable, then McDonald(1.5M), Spikes(3M), save $7M for emergencies during season.

That leaves 16.5M so we could sign a few FAs nothing big tho, i think we have learned it isnt a good idea to sign FAs to big deals.

Then we could extend Gore, Spencer and Smith if we wanted too with clever structuring.

So, I honestly dontt see all 4 making it next yr(Dashon, Manny, Aubrayo and Alex), 1 is gone IMO. Most likely is Aubrayo if RJF shows promise, if not then Dashon is gone.

thx nice knowing we have teh extra cash just in case and i agree we dont need to sign any big FA they usually doont work out to well in the end

I think we let Takeo walk and put Bowman in. Lawson/Alex Smith/ Franklin all raise interesting questions on whether we sign them or not. Lets hope they kick ass and earn a contract?

I think Dashon and McDonal are definite keepers, I feel pretty confident we can get them at an acceptable price tag

[ Edited by SunDevilNiner79 on Sep 11, 2010 at 18:45:51 ]

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
^^ how the hell do we always have so much cap room?

1. In an uncapped yr we should and have front loaded VD and Willis.

2. Good cap management, by not loading up on 1 yr, but spreading out over many seasons.

3. Having dummy years players wont see, Nate Clements comes to mind.

I've always wondered about those (extra) years. The agents don't mention anything, or is there enough contract jargon that it gets lost in there?

edit: by the way, great job on the numbers, always look forward to reading one of your topics.

It is just like most reporting, it lacks substantive information and misleads its readers.

Originally posted by OregonNiner87:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
^^ how the hell do we always have so much cap room?

1. In an uncapped yr we should and have front loaded VD and Willis.

2. Good cap management, by not loading up on 1 yr, but spreading out over many seasons.

3. Having dummy years players wont see, Nate Clements comes to mind.

I've always wondered about those (extra) years. The agents don't mention anything, or is there enough contract jargon that it gets lost in there?

edit: by the way, great job on the numbers, always look forward to reading one of your topics.

I would think there is little to no guaranteed money in those dummy years

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
^^ how the hell do we always have so much cap room?

1. In an uncapped yr we should and have front loaded VD and Willis.

2. Good cap management, by not loading up on 1 yr, but spreading out over many seasons.

3. Having dummy years players wont see, Nate Clements comes to mind.

4. 6 consecutive sub .500 seasons and one eight and eight.

fixed

[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Sep 11, 2010 at 19:03:52 ]

how long would u extend Gore, we all now about running backs and age, but he's still fairly young and a fan favorite, what say you? 3 years maybe or would that be a slap in the face compared to 5 yr deals for willis and davis?