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Some Alex Smith love from....Peter King?!?!

Originally posted by oreck16:
he's still delusional, Alex Leaf still sucks

best performance ever is a loss? LOL

Noob.. You should stop posting and go root for the Raiders.
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by oreck16:
he's still delusional, Alex Leaf still sucks

best performance ever is a loss? LOL

True, but I will give him credit for playing a good game. Not great, but good.

What QB did you guys see?

Anyway, this is expected until he wins a game outright (not up to the D) and wins a playoff.

He played great, not good. Some of those throws were on the money especially to Vernon Davis and his last drive speaks volumes whether you like him or not.

Sure a loss is still a loss, but I surely liked what I saw from Alex.

You have your opinion, I have mine. Here is a link that might help you compare Alex to the other starting NFL QBs:

NFL - Weekly Leaders - FOX Sports

-Sort by completion percentage: Alex is 7th overall. (oh and look at who's right above him BTW)
-Sort by Total Yards: Alex is 9th overall. (also look at who's above him)
-Total TDs: Alex is 18th
-Total INTs: Alex is 9th (or 23 from the bottom is how I see it)
-QB Rating: Alex ranked 16th!

These are all of the real, factual stats by which professional NFL QBs are measured. Not by pro-Smith fans nor by anti-Smith fans. So you tell me.... Which stat, compared to all others in the NFL, categorizes his performance as "Great"??? Measure his performance against others in the game, not against himself.

Common man! It's always the same s**t with some of you guys and its getting pretty damn trying. I bumped this post to give props to the kid for being recognized for once and you turn it into an anti/pro Smith thread.

Don't demean me man by trying to post stats...I know my stats. I don't need you or anyone else to question my position on Alex. It's a frickin' opinion!

Dude, I am not comparing Alex to anyone. I saw a great QB on MNF from my point of view. Oh and this is not a means to make this a pro VS con thread. I merely mention what QB did you see?

I saw greatness. I didn't see mediocre or just good. Its OK man. Its not personal so don't take it as such.

I don't get into arguments about Alex anymore. He did a great job, IMO. You nor anyone else is going to sway me. Again, Alex's best game, 4 drives of 80 yards or more and driving down to score the tying TD is frickin' awesome as well as great!

The only thing I didn't like was the pass to Gore that sailed a wee bit high...I didn't say he was perfect. I said he was great. He led a drive when we needed it. The D failed to stop Brees. That's not his fault. Again, JMO.

PS I find it very interesting that Rodgers, Manning, Brees and Brady were all below Alex...hmmmm....those are great QBs, no? And are you insinuating that Hill beat out Alex...who's trying to make this into a pro vs con thread.

[ Edited by ninertico on Sep 23, 2010 at 1:32 PM ]
Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by oreck16:
he's still delusional, Alex Leaf still sucks

best performance ever is a loss? LOL

True, but I will give him credit for playing a good game. Not great, but good.

What QB did you guys see?

Anyway, this is expected until he wins a game outright (not up to the D) and wins a playoff.

He played great, not good. Some of those throws were on the money especially to Vernon Davis and his last drive speaks volumes whether you like him or not.

Sure a loss is still a loss, but I surely liked what I saw from Alex.

You have your opinion, I have mine. Here is a link that might help you compare Alex to the other starting NFL QBs:

NFL - Weekly Leaders - FOX Sports

-Sort by completion percentage: Alex is 7th overall. (oh and look at who's right above him BTW)
-Sort by Total Yards: Alex is 9th overall. (also look at who's above him)
-Total TDs: Alex is 18th
-Total INTs: Alex is 9th (or 23 from the bottom is how I see it)
-QB Rating: Alex ranked 16th!

These are all of the real, factual stats by which professional NFL QBs are measured. Not by pro-Smith fans nor by anti-Smith fans. So you tell me.... Which stat, compared to all others in the NFL, categorizes his performance as "Great"??? Measure his performance against others in the game, not against himself.

Common man! It's always the same s**t with some of you guys and its getting pretty damn trying. I bumped this post to give props to the kid for being recognized for once and you turn it into an anti/pro Smith thread.

Don't demean me man by trying to post stats...I know my stats. I don't need you or anyone else to question my position on Alex. It's a frickin' opinion!

Dude, I am not comparing Alex to anyone. I saw a great QB on MNF from my point of view. Oh and this is not a means to make this a pro VS con thread. I merely mention what QB did you see?

I saw greatness. I didn't see mediocre or just good. Its OK man. Its not personal so don't take it as such.

I don't get into arguments about Alex anymore. He did a great job, IMO. You nor anyone else is going to sway me. Again, Alex's best game, 4 drives of 80 yards or more and driving down to score the tying TD is frickin' awesome as well as great!

The only thing I didn't like was the pass to Gore that sailed a wee bit high...I didn't say he was perfect. I said he was great. He led a drive when we needed it. The D failed to stop Brees. That's not his fault. Again, JMO.

So its okay for you to demean my opinion and I cant refute? I didn't see a great QB, you did. That's fine. I define "great" by statistics and facts, you do based on your personal opinion. Lets agree to disagree cause I'm so damn tired of arguing over this guy. Its the only thing that has continually torn our fanbase apart.
Smith's statistics weren't great on Monday, but anybody could see he had a good/great game. Stats can lie, as they did Monday Night.
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Smith's statistics weren't great on Monday, but anybody could see he had a good/great game. Stats can lie, as they did Monday Night.

You mean everyone but oreck, Shaj, Z, Norcal, and most likely
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Smith's statistics weren't great on Monday, but anybody could see he had a good/great game. Stats can lie, as they did Monday Night.

Agreed.. His QB rating was hurt by having more INTs than TD Passes. But his performance certainly passed the eyeball test. As for the Passer rating it is based on a crazy formula some mad scientist conceived some time ago..See below


NFL Quarterback Rating Formula

The NFL rates its passers for statistical purposes against a fixed performance standard based on statistical achievements of all qualified pro passers since 1960. The current system replaced one that rated passers in relation to their position in a total group based on various criteria.

The current system, which was adopted in 1973, removes inequities that existed in the former method and, at the same time, provides a means of comparing passing performances from one season to the next.

It is important to remember that the system is used to rate pass-ers, not quarterbacks. Statistics do not reflect leadership, play-calling, and other intangible factors that go into making a successful professional quarterback.

Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating:

Percentage of completions per attempt
Average yards gained per attempt
Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
Percentage of interceptions per attempt
The average standard, is 1.000. The bottom is .000. To earn a 2.000 rating, a passer must perform at exceptional levels, i.e., 70 percent in completions, 10 percent in touchdowns, 1.5 percent in interceptions, and 11 yards average gain per pass attempt. The maximum a passer can receive in any category is 2.375.

For example, to gain a 2.375 in completion percentage, a passer would have to complete 77.5 percent of his passes. The NFL record is 70.55 by Ken Anderson (Cincinnati, 1982).

To earn a 2.375 in percentage of touchdowns, a passer would have to achieve a percentage of 11.9. The record is 13.9 by Sid Luckman (Chicago, 1943).

To gain 2.375 in percentage of interceptions, a passer would have to go the entire season without an interception. The 2.375 figure in average yards is 12.50, compared with the NFL record of 11.17 by Tommy O'Connell (Cleveland, 1957).

In order to make the rating more understandable, the point rating is then converted into a scale of 100. In rare cases, where statistical performance has been superior, it is possible for a passer to surpass a 100 rating.

For example, take Steve Young's record-setting season in 1994 when he completed 324 of 461 passes for 3,969 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions.

The four calculations would be:

Percentage of Completions — 324 of 461 is 70.28 percent. Subtract 30 from the completion percentage (40.28) and multiply the result by 0.05. The result is a point rating of 2.014.
Note: If the result is less than zero (Comp. Pct. less than 30.0), award zero points. If the results are greater than 2.375 (Comp. Pct. greater than 77.5), award 2.375.
Average Yards Gained Per Attempt — 3,969 yards divided by 461 attempts is 8.61. Subtract three yards from yards-per-attempt (5.61) and multiply the result by 0.25. The result is 1.403.
Note: If the result is less than zero (yards per attempt less than 3.0), award zero points. If the result is greater than 2.375 (yards per attempt greater than 12.5), award 2.375 points.
Percentage of Touchdown Passes — 35 touchdowns in 461 attempts is 7.59 percent. Multiply the touchdown percentage by 0.2. The result is 1.518.
Note: If the result is greater than 2.375 (touchdown percentage greater than 11.875), award 2.375.
Percentage of Interceptions — 10 interceptions in 461 attempts is 2.17 percent. Multiply the interception percentage by 0.25 (0.542) and subtract the number from 2.375. The result is 1.833.
Note: If the result is less than zero (interception percentage greater than 9.5), award zero points.
The sum of the four steps is (2.014 + 1.403 + 1.518 + 1.833) 6.768. The sum is then divided by six (1.128) and multiplied by 100. In this case, the result is 112.8. This same formula can be used to determine a passer rating for any player who attempts at least one pass.
So, do you guys think Mark Sanchez is the real deal? He had a better day than Alex. I think we have to keep things in perspective and realize that Alex has had many, many, many more bad games than good, so don't expect a repeat next week no different than you wouldn't expect Sanchez to play that well next week either.

I just hope he doesn't throw any INTs or doesn't fumble the ball.
Originally posted by Joecool:
So, do you guys think Mark Sanchez is the real deal? He had a better day than Alex. I think we have to keep things in perspective and realize that Alex has had many, many, many more bad games than good, so don't expect a repeat next week no different than you wouldn't expect Sanchez to play that well next week either.

I just hope he doesn't throw any INTs or doesn't fumble the ball.

Sanchez looked much better than last year, still too early to tell about the long term. He did have the advantage of going to a pretty damn good team, unlike Smith though, so it is not really a good case for comparison unless you want to compare the difference between going #1 to a team that was as talent poor as this one was in '05 and going to a team ready for the playoffs.
Originally posted by fly15:



You know who they might be referring to?
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by fly15:



You know who they might be referring to?

Alex Smith bro, but i'm happy Memphis is back, we all get to see his non-sense and love for Alex....
I heard he's mad cause they benched V. Young
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by fly15:



You know who they might be referring to?

The Alex love is deep these days. I'd like to believe that I'm one of the founders of the movement. Honestly, how many people bought an Alex jersey last year before he was even named the starter? I can truthfully say I did.
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
The Alex love is deep these days. I'd like to believe that I'm one of the founders of the movement. Honestly, how many people bought an Alex jersey last year before he was even named the starter? I can truthfully say I did.

Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
The Alex love is deep these days. I'd like to believe that I'm one of the founders of the movement. Honestly, how many people bought an Alex jersey last year before he was even named the starter? I can truthfully say I did.
[ Edited by fly15 on Sep 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM ]