1) hasn't Nate Byham been looking great in preseason? He's made some tough catches and looks like the ideal 8-10 yard reception kind of guy, and his blocking has been fine as well. I like the idea of Davis and Byham for 2 TE sets, lots of options.
2) As we all know from watching games last year, the 49ers don't run outside much. Matt Maiocco reported that the 49ers ran inside 71% of the time last year. It seems to make so much sense to put Gore and Westbrook in the same backfield at times to add a bit of spacing to the defense. I think that would be a lot more effective than putting Ginn in the lineup.
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Aug 23, 2010 at 12:44 PM
- CasBanaszek
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Aug 23, 2010 at 12:48 PM
- Kilgore_Trout
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Originally posted by CasBanaszek:
1) hasn't Nate Byham been looking great in preseason? He's made some tough catches and looks like the ideal 8-10 yard reception kind of guy, and his blocking has been fine as well. I like the idea of Davis and Byham for 2 TE sets, lots of options.
2) As we all know from watching games last year, the 49ers don't run outside much. Matt Maiocco reported that the 49ers ran inside 71% of the time last year. It seems to make so much sense to put Gore and Westbrook in the same backfield at times to add a bit of spacing to the defense. I think that would be a lot more effective than putting Ginn in the lineup.
What do you propose we do with D. Walker? He didn't look half-bad last night either. And I think we will see a lot of what you mentioned in point two.
Aug 23, 2010 at 1:02 PM
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Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:Originally posted by CasBanaszek:
1) hasn't Nate Byham been looking great in preseason? He's made some tough catches and looks like the ideal 8-10 yard reception kind of guy, and his blocking has been fine as well. I like the idea of Davis and Byham for 2 TE sets, lots of options.
2) As we all know from watching games last year, the 49ers don't run outside much. Matt Maiocco reported that the 49ers ran inside 71% of the time last year. It seems to make so much sense to put Gore and Westbrook in the same backfield at times to add a bit of spacing to the defense. I think that would be a lot more effective than putting Ginn in the lineup.
What do you propose we do with D. Walker? He didn't look half-bad last night either. And I think we will see a lot of what you mentioned in point two.
It should (as I'm sure you've already considered) be a function of down and distance. Also he could be Davis' backup. Probably depends on matchups as well.
Aug 23, 2010 at 2:30 PM
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Aug 23, 2010 at 2:45 PM
- CasBanaszek
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Originally posted by fly15:
being relatively new to posting here, I would like to know why you propose this thread should be locked.
Aug 23, 2010 at 2:47 PM
- SybErkRimInAL
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walker is our best pass catching TE.
Aug 23, 2010 at 2:54 PM
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Originally posted by CasBanaszek:Originally posted by fly15:
being relatively new to posting here, I would like to know why you propose this thread should be locked.
please dont get offended, I just like the way the lock moves
Aug 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM
- Antix
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Byhams hands impressed me quite a bit.
Aug 23, 2010 at 3:00 PM
- chico49erfan
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I think Byham takes the #3 TE spot.
Aug 23, 2010 at 3:01 PM
- Kneel_B4_ZOD
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Originally posted by CasBanaszek:
1) hasn't Nate Byham been looking great in preseason? He's made some tough catches and looks like the ideal 8-10 yard reception kind of guy, and his blocking has been fine as well. I like the idea of Davis and Byham for 2 TE sets, lots of options.
2) As we all know from watching games last year, the 49ers don't run outside much. Matt Maiocco reported that the 49ers ran inside 71% of the time last year. It seems to make so much sense to put Gore and Westbrook in the same backfield at times to add a bit of spacing to the defense. I think that would be a lot more effective than putting Ginn in the lineup.
1) I like Byham too, but he's the third best TE on the team. That's not opinion, at this point, its fact.
2) I think that's a huge reason we picked up Westbrook to replace Coffee (and by replace, I mean make us forget all about him). Westbrook is the perfect compliment to Gore in that he can (hopefully, still) get to the outside and stretch the defensive front.
Aug 23, 2010 at 3:06 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:Originally posted by CasBanaszek:
1) hasn't Nate Byham been looking great in preseason? He's made some tough catches and looks like the ideal 8-10 yard reception kind of guy, and his blocking has been fine as well. I like the idea of Davis and Byham for 2 TE sets, lots of options.
2) As we all know from watching games last year, the 49ers don't run outside much. Matt Maiocco reported that the 49ers ran inside 71% of the time last year. It seems to make so much sense to put Gore and Westbrook in the same backfield at times to add a bit of spacing to the defense. I think that would be a lot more effective than putting Ginn in the lineup.
What do you propose we do with D. Walker? He didn't look half-bad last night either. And I think we will see a lot of what you mentioned in point two.
Have Walker line up as a receiver in some packages, then sweep to his side letting him crack back in, and Byham pull with the guard.
Byham's added value is in being an H-Back as well, sad Miller seems to have fallen down the depth chart. But Byham has been looking like a beast of a blocker and is in the 270-280pnd range. If/when Norris gets injurred or just can't cut it in the season it will be allot easier to keep 4RB's(gore, westbrook, dixon, norris, with MR being a special teamer slot) and three TE's with one that can be the full back too. Opens up an additional roster spot possibly being able to keep an extra OLB. (reference to the Briggs vs Laboy discussion).
Aug 23, 2010 at 3:14 PM
- TDilvr
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Byham's hands make him a keeper. He's almost as big as the linemen we had back in the 80's. Kudos for taking that nasty lick.
Aug 23, 2010 at 4:01 PM
- DarthNiner
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This makes Vernon Davis expendable! Let's trade him for Revis!
Aug 23, 2010 at 4:10 PM
- tjd808185
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Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:Originally posted by CasBanaszek:
1) hasn't Nate Byham been looking great in preseason? He's made some tough catches and looks like the ideal 8-10 yard reception kind of guy, and his blocking has been fine as well. I like the idea of Davis and Byham for 2 TE sets, lots of options.
2) As we all know from watching games last year, the 49ers don't run outside much. Matt Maiocco reported that the 49ers ran inside 71% of the time last year. It seems to make so much sense to put Gore and Westbrook in the same backfield at times to add a bit of spacing to the defense. I think that would be a lot more effective than putting Ginn in the lineup.
What do you propose we do with D. Walker? He didn't look half-bad last night either. And I think we will see a lot of what you mentioned in point two.
He started 8 games last year. We run 2 tight end sets all of the time. The guy has a role in the offense, can we expand a little probally, but let's not go overboard here.
Aug 23, 2010 at 4:12 PM
- billbird2111
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Originally posted by CasBanaszek:Originally posted by fly15:
being relatively new to posting here, I would like to know why you propose this thread should be locked.
The topic material is good. But the fact that you're using a Raider name is enough to not only lock the thread -- but shame you from ever posting anything again.
Kidding...