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Article says 49ers will finish LAST in the NFC West

Originally posted by mufasa76:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:
Originally posted by WestCoast:
Originally posted by Shaj:
I may not agree with W-L conclusions they drew, but I thought the analysis was fascinating. Of interesting note is that statistically, having the same OC does not impact QB results, and also that Smith's record passer rating last year was against bad teams mostly. Ouch.

Eddie D would have fired Singletary in a sec

Eddie D woulda never hired Singletary

Oh really. Who hired Pete McCulley and Fred O''Connor, then?

LMAO

This information is incorrect and is tainting the once glorious name of Edward DeBartolo Jr. -- aka -- our beloved Eddie D.

Mods! Action is needed in this thread!
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by mufasa76:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:
Originally posted by WestCoast:
Originally posted by Shaj:
I may not agree with W-L conclusions they drew, but I thought the analysis was fascinating. Of interesting note is that statistically, having the same OC does not impact QB results, and also that Smith's record passer rating last year was against bad teams mostly. Ouch.

Eddie D would have fired Singletary in a sec

Eddie D woulda never hired Singletary

Oh really. Who hired Pete McCulley and Fred O''Connor, then?

LMAO

This information is incorrect and is tainting the once glorious name of Edward DeBartolo Jr. -- aka -- our beloved Eddie D.

Mods! Action is needed in this thread!

You already corrected it with your previous post, Bill...

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Joe Thomas hired them sir -- not Eddie D.

Now -- in all fairness -- Eddie D. DID -- in fact -- HIRE Joe Thomas to run the team as General Manager. It was -- in fact -- the first hire that a young Eddie D. made -- at the recommendation of Raiders owners Al Davis.

Thomas came with a great reputation for building winners. But he eventually got tagged with the unfortunate name of "Captain Bligh" after committing a series of blunders. His first was firing Head Coach Monte Clarke -- who had compiled a winning record in 1976. Clarke's "Gold Rush" defenses were breaking sack records back in the day. Yet he was canned after an 8-6 season.

Thomas then hired Ken Meyer -- fired him after one season -- then hired and fired Pete McCulley. He also made the rather unfortunate decision to trade away two years worth of high draft picks for a used up OJ Simpson.

Captain Bligh's final move was to replace McCulley with Fred O'Connor at the mid-point of that fateful, terrible, 2-14 1978 season. Captain Bligh and O'Connor were -- in turn -- fired by a disgusted Eddie D. at the completion of the 1978 season.

That is when Eddie D. turned to the college ranks and hired a coach by the name of Bill Walsh.

The rest is history. And that -- sir -- is the true story.


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I really don't see what's absurd about the article? We are in last place and there is really nothing but uncertainty going forward with this team. Sure, we look good on paper and were chosen to win the division, but we have also guaranteed the last 2 wins and how did that turn out??

This is the NFL. Where teams that were supposed to be SB favorites are taking a dump and teams that were in last place are still undefeated. I agree with the article until proven otherwise.
Originally posted by kidash:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by mufasa76:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by JohnnyMo49:
Originally posted by WestCoast:
Originally posted by Shaj:
I may not agree with W-L conclusions they drew, but I thought the analysis was fascinating. Of interesting note is that statistically, having the same OC does not impact QB results, and also that Smith's record passer rating last year was against bad teams mostly. Ouch.

Eddie D would have fired Singletary in a sec

Eddie D woulda never hired Singletary

Oh really. Who hired Pete McCulley and Fred O''Connor, then?

LMAO

This information is incorrect and is tainting the once glorious name of Edward DeBartolo Jr. -- aka -- our beloved Eddie D.

Mods! Action is needed in this thread!

You already corrected it with your previous post, Bill...

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Joe Thomas hired them sir -- not Eddie D.

Now -- in all fairness -- Eddie D. DID -- in fact -- HIRE Joe Thomas to run the team as General Manager. It was -- in fact -- the first hire that a young Eddie D. made -- at the recommendation of Raiders owners Al Davis.

Thomas came with a great reputation for building winners. But he eventually got tagged with the unfortunate name of "Captain Bligh" after committing a series of blunders. His first was firing Head Coach Monte Clarke -- who had compiled a winning record in 1976. Clarke's "Gold Rush" defenses were breaking sack records back in the day. Yet he was canned after an 8-6 season.

Thomas then hired Ken Meyer -- fired him after one season -- then hired and fired Pete McCulley. He also made the rather unfortunate decision to trade away two years worth of high draft picks for a used up OJ Simpson.

Captain Bligh's final move was to replace McCulley with Fred O'Connor at the mid-point of that fateful, terrible, 2-14 1978 season. Captain Bligh and O'Connor were -- in turn -- fired by a disgusted Eddie D. at the completion of the 1978 season.

That is when Eddie D. turned to the college ranks and hired a coach by the name of Bill Walsh.

The rest is history. And that -- sir -- is the true story.


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they pwned us
This is why it's not worth responding to these things in the offseason.
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by lamontb:
They made valid points. Team just has to hit the field and prove doubters wrong.

Agreed.

Stranger things have happened. I agree that the offense is still HIGHLY suspect. HIGHLY. Even offense during camp hasn't been smooth, not to mention injuries that have unsettled the offensive line.

They're right; the 49ers don't have an offensive identity. They can't decide if they're going to run or pass. They haven't decided if they're going to be a traditional offense or shotgun. I think they would be more well served in trying to create a viable hybrid. However, Jimmy Raye doesn't strike me as being the creative type.

The 49ers haven't arrived and anyone should have buyer beware on this offense.

Damn dude, maybe you should be a Niner GM...Great prediction!
They very well could. And all things considered 5 - 11 and losing the last 2 games would be great...
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They very well could. And all things considered 5 - 11 and losing the last 2 games would be great...

yeah! Two more weeks, tworemaining opportunities to get better, by losing them - for next year's new 49ers players.
Going back and reading their prediction, it would seem they were fairly accurate in their assessment of our record and of the problems the Niners would face this year. A quote from the article below:


""Among concerns from their analysis: Alex Smith fared well only against weak competition, the 49ers defense is due for a letdown and the odds are stacked against two rookies making an immediate impact on the offensive line that needs big-time help.

Even one of the things the 49ers point to for optimism – an offensive coordinator in place back-to-back seasons – raises a red flag for the Outsiders. “There’s no statistical evidence that having the same coordinator makes a difference,’’ Bill Barnwell, the managing editor for the site, said in a phone interview. “Anecdotally, it makes sense, but if it’s the same group that isn’t good enough, I don’t know if it really makes a difference.”"
Originally posted by 49Crabs:
Going back and reading their prediction, it would seem they were fairly accurate in their assessment of our record and of the problems the Niners would face this year. A quote from the article below:


""Among concerns from their analysis: Alex Smith fared well only against weak competition, the 49ers defense is due for a letdown and the odds are stacked against two rookies making an immediate impact on the offensive line that needs big-time help.

Even one of the things the 49ers point to for optimism – an offensive coordinator in place back-to-back seasons – raises a red flag for the Outsiders. “There’s no statistical evidence that having the same coordinator makes a difference,’’ Bill Barnwell, the managing editor for the site, said in a phone interview. “Anecdotally, it makes sense, but if it’s the same group that isn’t good enough, I don’t know if it really makes a difference.”"

That is a flimsy stance to take for being a managing editor.
Perhaps he didn't want to say "If you have Jimmy Raye running your O for a second straight year, good luck."
Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
not 2nd not 3rd but LAST behind the Rams

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2010/08/19/another-viewpoint-football-outsiders-picks-49ers-to-finish-last-in-nfc-west/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+49ersHotRead+%2849ers+Hot+Read%29

I really wonder how some of these sport writers have jobs

Guess that's why they are the PROS and we are the JOES as the saying goes?