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Mike and Mike high on the Niners

They just did a training camp review with "5 Big Questions" on us and both are pretty high on San Fran.

Greeny predicted 12 wins and Golic 11. So, that obviously makes us both a playoff team and the division winner. Called VD the best TE in the NFC and raved about Sings. Also, very impressed with our D, but said, as we all know, that we need to be more consistant. (Excelled in our 8 wins, got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed.)

On a funny note, during the "Will Alex be the starter all season?" question, Golic mentioned Shaun Hill as still being Alex's backup. Way to do your homework big guy!
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed

WRONG
Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed

WRONG

Ya we only had one game where we got blown out and alot of games where we were inches away from a win and a few games where we were blown out and then came back within a few inches of a win and one game where we were truly robbed.
Originally posted by TexasNiner:

On a funny note, during the "Will Alex be the starter all season?" question, Golic mentioned Shaun Hill as still being Alex's backup.
That's a sign to disregard everything he said.
Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed

WRONG

Not cumulatively. Without looking up the exact details, the stats they had were we gave up about 56 points in our 8 wins and something like 250 in our 8 losses.

The point being that it was feast or famine overall. And they were right. Against lesser teams, we dominated. Against stronger teams, we often struggled and gave up too many big plays, 3rd down conversions and points, even if we played OK for most of the game.


In 6 of those 8 losses, we gave up at least 24 points. Obviously if we had been just a bit more consistant in our 8 losses, we could have picked up an extra win or two at least, just by allowing one less score. In half of those losses, the final margin was a TD (once) or a FG (3 times). Making ONE more play in each game that stops a drive and prevents a score could have been the difference.

Compare that to our 8 wins, in which we allowed 10 points or less in 7 of them and only 16 in the 8th, and that is a HUGE difference.

That was their point, and it's 100% accurate. We need our D to be more consistant against the better teams.

If we can make that small step forward this year, (giving up at least a FG less to good teams) and if our O can do the same, (score at least a FG more against good teams), we are likely a double digit win team.

But both sides of the ball need that extra level of consistancy, especially against the better teams in the NFL.
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Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:

On a funny note, during the "Will Alex be the starter all season?" question, Golic mentioned Shaun Hill as still being Alex's backup.
That's a sign to disregard everything he said.



Mike Golic has always been an idiot, and this just continues to prove it. f**k him, f**k the Eagles, f**k Nutrisystem.
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Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed

WRONG

Not cumulatively. Without looking up the exact details, the stats they had were we gave up about 56 points in our 8 wins and something like 250 in our 8 losses.

The point being that it was feast or famine overall. And they were right. Against lesser teams, we dominated. Against stronger teams, we often struggled and gave up too many big plays, 3rd down conversions and points, even if we played OK for most of the game.


In 6 of those 8 losses, we gave up at least 24 points. Obviously if we had been just a bit more consistant in our 8 losses, we could have picked up an extra win or two at least, just by allowing one less score. In half of those losses, the final margin was a TD (once) or a FG (3 times). Making ONE more play in each game that stops a drive and prevents a score could have been the difference.

Compare that to our 8 wins, in which we allowed 10 points or less in 7 of them and only 16 in the 8th, and that is a HUGE difference.

That was their point, and it's 100% accurate. We need our D to be more consistant against the better teams.

If we can make that small step forward this year, (giving up at least a FG less to good teams) and if our O can do the same, (score at least a FG more against good teams), we are likely a double digit win team.

But both sides of the ball need that extra level of consistancy, especially against the better teams in the NFL.

Well we also scored close to those many points as well, so it wasn't a blow out. Its twisting stats a bit.
Regardless of what Mike and Mike say, we need to just believe in our team guys. We're at the point in the season where we won't see a lot of changes anymore. What we have is what we got. We need to just be the best fans possibel for our squad.

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Originally posted by zillabeast:
Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:

On a funny note, during the "Will Alex be the starter all season?" question, Golic mentioned Shaun Hill as still being Alex's backup.
That's a sign to disregard everything he said.



Mike Golic has always been an idiot, and this just continues to prove it. f**k him, f**k the Eagles, f**k Nutrisystem.


Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed

WRONG

Not cumulatively. Without looking up the exact details, the stats they had were we gave up about 56 points in our 8 wins and something like 250 in our 8 losses.

The point being that it was feast or famine overall. And they were right. Against lesser teams, we dominated. Against stronger teams, we often struggled and gave up too many big plays, 3rd down conversions and points, even if we played OK for most of the game.


In 6 of those 8 losses, we gave up at least 24 points. Obviously if we had been just a bit more consistant in our 8 losses, we could have picked up an extra win or two at least, just by allowing one less score. In half of those losses, the final margin was a TD (once) or a FG (3 times). Making ONE more play in each game that stops a drive and prevents a score could have been the difference.

Compare that to our 8 wins, in which we allowed 10 points or less in 7 of them and only 16 in the 8th, and that is a HUGE difference.

That was their point, and it's 100% accurate. We need our D to be more consistant against the better teams.

If we can make that small step forward this year, (giving up at least a FG less to good teams) and if our O can do the same, (score at least a FG more against good teams), we are likely a double digit win team.

But both sides of the ball need that extra level of consistancy, especially against the better teams in the NFL.

Well we also scored close to those many points as well, so it wasn't a blow out. Its twisting stats a bit.

Not at all he said in the Niners wins the defense is shut down only giving up 55 points, but when they lose the defense looks horrible giving up 256 points He was saying they have to find a middle ground. he didn't say that they were getting blown out or anything it was about the defenses inconsistencies.
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed

WRONG

Ya we only had one game where we got blown out and a lot of games where we were inches away from a win and a few games where we were blown out and then came back within a few inches of a win and one game where we were truly robbed.

If the game in which "we were truly robbed" was the Minnesota game, you are correct, sir.

I have looked at that last play from every angle and I still think the receiver's first foot did not come down in bounds...it was close but he was on that back line of the end zone. Yeah, yeah...Favre made a great throw but the fact is the receiver was still out of bounds. Don't know if it would have changed the season any but it still sucked that the Niners "lost" that game.
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by cooljon16:
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
got rocked in our 8 losses in terms of overally points allowed

WRONG

Ya we only had one game where we got blown out and a lot of games where we were inches away from a win and a few games where we were blown out and then came back within a few inches of a win and one game where we were truly robbed.

If the game in which "we were truly robbed" was the Minnesota game, you are correct, sir.

I have looked at that last play from every angle and I still think the receiver's first foot did not come down in bounds...it was close but he was on that back line of the end zone. Yeah, yeah...Favre made a great throw but the fact is the receiver was still out of bounds. Don't know if it would have changed the season any but it still sucked that the Niners "lost" that game.


I think the Minnesota game as well as the Indiannapolis game were games we could have won with Goldson in better shape and our offense just 6 points better. We could have won the Minnesota game if we had held onto the ball just a little longer. But I think both of those games were the transitional games that a winner wins. This year we could win both of those games.

The game that we should have won is the Seattle game. That was sloppy play on our part as well as fumbling at the most inopportune times. That game was the pivotal game for us. If we had played that game like we played the second Cardinal game we would have had a winning season. We need to play all of our games like the second Cardinal game. That was a winning team. No questions, no doubts. We won that game wonderfully on all levels.
Mike and Mike suck.