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Tedd Ginn Jr. Returner or Receiver?
Jun 25, 2010 at 4:59 PM
- prime21
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Im sorry guys, but I am not sold on the idea of Ginn coming in and being handed a roster spot at WR. Sure the guy is fast, BUT one has to wonder why he was let go for such a low price. Im pretty sure the Fins knew what they had and/or didnt have in the young wideout. I look at guys that have been fighting and clawing for some playing time or just making the roster period. Jason Hill, Zeigler, Jones, Williams to name a few. Im not against Ginn making the roster as a returner; to me, that is what he does best. So why not have him concentrate on the return game?
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:04 PM
- RonMexico
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He is here to be a returner and stretch the field as a receiver sometimes
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:13 PM
- 9erReign
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Well he can't catch. So I think it is pretty easy to answer.
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:14 PM
- WINiner
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Originally posted by RonMexico:
He is here to be a returner and stretch the field as a receiver sometimes
I disagree. I think his main role will be as a WR and he will return if nobody else is able to sufficiently.
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:21 PM
- DonnieDarko
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he's a horrible wideout. think ahley lelie...
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:28 PM
- 9erReign
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Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by RonMexico:
He is here to be a returner and stretch the field as a receiver sometimes
I disagree. I think his main role will be as a WR and he will return if nobody else is able to sufficiently.
He was on my fantasy football team last year so I watched a lot of Fins games. Dude isn't much of a WR.
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:30 PM
- matthewabbit
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Had the niners done even slightly better in the return game last year you could chalk up 2 more easy victorys to our 8-8 season. seriously we were nearly last in the nfl in return yards and got robbed of victorys due to numerous fumbles in that department. had we retained Rossum last year i truly thiink we would have made the playoffs with a merely mediocre return man... So it is my understanding that Ginn was brought in to adress that problem directly. As Ginn is regarded by many to be the best in the game at return skills I think it would take an injury or drastic improvement by Ginn at wr to redirect his skills. Our Wr core is deep has talent and the return game...????? not so much. We were that close last year
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:36 PM
- AXEGRINDER
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just catch the ball and don't f**king fumble
Jun 25, 2010 at 5:51 PM
- prime21
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I think he should stick with reuturning kicks. Look at Hester, he was a great returner who isnt much of a receiver. The term "stretching the field" in this league is thrown aound too loosely, The raiders have Heyward Bey "stretching the field"; and I havent checked, but Im guessing that their passing game didnt benefit greatly from it. I cant even name any great receivers who relied solely on speed to get the job done. Jerry Rice wasnt very fast but he could just flat out play, and it seems to me that he would stretch the field quite nicely, not cause of his speed but because of his big play ability. I hope Ginn turns a corner as a WR if we are planning on seriously considering him as a top wideout on our roster.
Jun 25, 2010 at 6:53 PM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by prime21:
I think he should stick with reuturning kicks. Look at Hester, he was a great returner who isnt much of a receiver. The term "stretching the field" in this league is thrown aound too loosely, The raiders have Heyward Bey "stretching the field"; and I havent checked, but Im guessing that their passing game didnt benefit greatly from it. I cant even name any great receivers who relied solely on speed to get the job done. Jerry Rice wasnt very fast but he could just flat out play, and it seems to me that he would stretch the field quite nicely, not cause of his speed but because of his big play ability. I hope Ginn turns a corner as a WR if we are planning on seriously considering him as a top wideout on our roster.
The 3WR position on this team isn't exactly demanding. In the previous years the numbers are low to say the least:
3rd WR Season Statistics (Based on number of catches):
2007: Ashley Lelie 10 rec 115 yd 11.5 av 47 lg 0 TD
2008: Jason Hill 30 rec 317 yd 10.6 av 33 lg 2 TD
2009: Isaac Bruce 21 rec 264 yd 12.6 av 50 lg 0 TD
So you have to think that the third WR will get more than last year but less than a Mike Martz system. Maybe 24 rec 310 yd 12.9 av 2 TD. I think Ginn Jr. can get that.
[ Edited by NinerBuff on Jun 25, 2010 at 19:00:10 ]
Jun 25, 2010 at 8:15 PM
- Grigga2021
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I think Ted Ginn is really gunna shine over here. Big plays are coming. He has world class speed. I agree with the niners wanting him to focus on WR duties instead of return man. He is going to really help the offense. Im still exited about us getting him.
Jun 25, 2010 at 8:21 PM
- YungAce
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Mike Singletary said before that they traded for him to be both a receiver and returner. Let's just hope he has that mindset after that preseason, that would mean that he's catching passes and not letting perfect Pro Bowl Alex Smith throws hit the ground.
Jun 25, 2010 at 8:37 PM
- 49ersFan
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Sully will do a good job with him we desperately need at least some speed on the field on 2nd and 3rd down and with crabs and vd they should be a nice compliment
Jun 25, 2010 at 10:10 PM
- macombs
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I would like another choice to be added...
Free Agent
I feel more confident with Kyle Williams as returner, and Jason Hill as #3
Free Agent
I feel more confident with Kyle Williams as returner, and Jason Hill as #3
Jun 25, 2010 at 10:28 PM
- glorydayz
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His number 1 job is to open things up for Frank Gore! When Ginn is on the field the FS & SS will have to respect his speed so no more stacking the box, which should open things up for Gore.
This will also put VD in man to man coverage if CB's need help over the top on Ginn's side!
This will also put VD in man to man coverage if CB's need help over the top on Ginn's side!