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Redemption Reception: Miracle or curse?

It was the 1998 wildcard game. 49ers v. Packers. Mariucci v. Holmgren. Mariucci was hired specifically to beat the packers. He had not beaten them yet. Holmgren was in his last year with the Packers. Rumors were flying that if the 49ers had not beaten the packers that day, Marriucci would be fired and replaced with Holmgren. The 49ers head coaching job was Holmgren's dream job, and he wanted it.

It looked like the packers were going to pull off another win against the niners that day until TO's catch with 8 seconds left in the game. A miracle? or a curse? Had the Redemption Reception never occurred, Holmgren would have been hired. Instead, Hearst destroys his ankle the following game against the falcons and is out for the next two years. The 49ers go 4-12 the following season with an end to Steve Young's career.
And what did Holmgren accomplish after that? Nothing.
ehh. I will take the guaranteed win. One of my Favorite Niners wins. Holmgren may or not have come, and he may or may not have been able to accomplish anything. The Yorks ruined the franchise, this goes above what an HC can do.
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
And what did Holmgren accomplish after that? Nothing.
4 Division titles in a row with the Seahawks and a Superbowl appearance.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
And what did Holmgren accomplish after that? Nothing.
4 Division titles in a row with the Seahawks and a Superbowl appearance.

Okay...and he still didn't win anything.
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
And what did Holmgren accomplish after that? Nothing.
4 Division titles in a row with the Seahawks and a Superbowl appearance.

Okay...and he still didn't win anything.

As opposed to what the niners did that decade?
If I played the Lotto with the winning numbers I would be a millionaire
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
And what did Holmgren accomplish after that? Nothing.
4 Division titles in a row with the Seahawks and a Superbowl appearance.

Okay...and he still didn't win anything.

As opposed to what the niners did that decade?

Exactly, both sides did nothing. This thread is pointless.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
It was the 1998 wildcard game. 49ers v. Packers. Mariucci v. Holmgren. Mariucci was hired specifically to beat the packers. He had not beaten them yet. Holmgren was in his last year with the Packers. Rumors were flying that if the 49ers had not beaten the packers that day, Marriucci would be fired and replaced with Holmgren. The 49ers head coaching job was Holmgren's dream job, and he wanted it.

It looked like the packers were going to pull off another win against the niners that day until TO's catch with 8 seconds left in the game. A miracle? or a curse? Had the Redemption Reception never occurred, Holmgren would have been hired. Instead, Hearst destroys his ankle the following game against the falcons and is out for the next two years. The 49ers go 4-12 the following season with an end to Steve Young's career.

This is all speculation. It was widely known that Holmgren wanted full power over all personnel decisions (and got it in Seattle), but Bill Walsh was the General Manager of the 49ers during this period. Would Holmgren have gone to the 49ers, knowing full well that he was walking into a situation with an aging Steve Young and huge salary cap problems ahead?

I could speculate about a number of situations throughout 49ers history. Retreading the past doesn't change (or help) the future.
never mind
[ Edited by ninerdaddy on May 25, 2010 at 1:31 PM ]
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
And what did Holmgren accomplish after that? Nothing.
4 Division titles in a row with the Seahawks and a Superbowl appearance.

Okay...and he still didn't win anything.

As opposed to what the niners did that decade?

Exactly, both sides did nothing. This thread is pointless.

Youre not getting the point of the thread. Had the 49ers lost to the packers, we would have had a completely different decade. First and foremost, Hearst would not have destroyed his leg the following game. Second, a Holmgren run 49ers squad would have had a completely different look. Whether or not Holmgren succeeded with the Seahawks is pointless.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
And what did Holmgren accomplish after that? Nothing.
4 Division titles in a row with the Seahawks and a Superbowl appearance.

Okay...and he still didn't win anything.

As opposed to what the niners did that decade?

Exactly, both sides did nothing. This thread is pointless.

Youre not getting the point of the thread. Had the 49ers lost to the packers, we would have had a completely different decade. First and foremost, Hearst would not have destroyed his leg the following game. Second, a Holmgren run 49ers squad would have had a completely different look. Whether or not Holmgren succeeded with the Seahawks is pointless.

Yes, it would have been completely different. Also, Young would have played longer had the team stayed competitive.
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maybe the curse is cus jerry rice clearly fumbled and we wouldnt have won that game if it were held 1 year later when they brought back instant replay back.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
It was the 1998 wildcard game. 49ers v. Packers. Mariucci v. Holmgren. Mariucci was hired specifically to beat the packers. He had not beaten them yet. Holmgren was in his last year with the Packers. Rumors were flying that if the 49ers had not beaten the packers that day, Marriucci would be fired and replaced with Holmgren. The 49ers head coaching job was Holmgren's dream job, and he wanted it.

It looked like the packers were going to pull off another win against the niners that day until TO's catch with 8 seconds left in the game. A miracle? or a curse? Had the Redemption Reception never occurred, Holmgren would have been hired. Instead, Hearst destroys his ankle the following game against the falcons and is out for the next two years. The 49ers go 4-12 the following season with an end to Steve Young's career.

woulda, shoulda, coulda......I think the perfect name for a race horse is "if i'da only". Maybe in some alternate universe...what a waste of time....
This assumes Holmgren would've done a better job than Mariucci (likely) and that Holmgren could've dealt with the York (doubtful)