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Mini Camp Thread - (June 17-18)

  • Blitz
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Originally posted by Slash49:
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Bowman middle blitz, in backfld to tap gore

tweet from Phil Barber

I'm excited about this Bowman kid. Very intriguing prospect. Could be diamond in the rough, a real bad ass.
Back deep fielding punts off the Juggs machine are Ginn, Kyle Williams and LeRoy Vann. #49ers
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Alex Smith has mostly looked sharp. He's been off on deep throws, incl the one on which Brown was shaken up. Ginn also dropped a 45 yarder.
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by Slash49:
Quote:
Bowman middle blitz, in backfld to tap gore

tweet from Phil Barber

I'm excited about this Bowman kid. Very intriguing prospect. Could be diamond in the rough, a real bad ass.

I think a few teams had him rated pretty high on their draft boards, i think I read dallas was big on him.
Originally posted by Slash49:
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Alex Smith has mostly looked sharp. He's been off on deep throws, incl the one on which Brown was shaken up. Ginn also dropped a 45 yarder.

so... not much's changed?
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by Slash49:
Quote:
Bowman middle blitz, in backfld to tap gore

tweet from Phil Barber

I'm excited about this Bowman kid. Very intriguing prospect. Could be diamond in the rough, a real bad ass.

I think a few teams had him rated pretty high on their draft boards, i think I read dallas was big on him.

Apparently Dallas rated him as a first round talent, i think they didn't take him cause they had Sean Lee rated higher???
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Smoothest punt returner, at least today: Williams
Originally posted by Slash49:
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Smoothest punt returner, at least today: Williams

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Spencer and Lawson both unhappy about their contracts..

Yeah where did you hear Spencer is unhappy with his contract

Barrows
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/2010/05/niners-kick-off.html

So NOW why is SPENCER unhappy???? You know this is BS. You signed an extension dude and now you're unhappy? I'm so over this. You f**king can't have it both ways. You can't sign a deal early in your career, suddenly become unhappy and miss practices because you're not happy with the deal mid-point through the contract? REALLY?

If you don't like the deal (extension) DON'T f**kING SIGN. Sorry for being pissed off but just tired of this foolishness. 49ers need to look for replacements in the secondary and on the DL. Tired of greedy players who haven't really proved anything but being able to be an 8-8 squad. Spencer has been to how many pro-bowls?
Thought so.

I agree 100 percent with what your saying. However, I also think the Niners orginazation messed up by passing out too much money to unproven players like Haralson and Brooks. Some of the vets that have been around are now saying to themselves, WTF? I could see how a guy like Lawson would feel burned when he is making less cheddar than Haralson (the bust) and Brooks. It's one thing to extend guys like Willis and Staley. It's a whole other thing to pay guys who have only shown promise over a half of season.... I think thats one of the reasons we will have a lot of trouble signing Goldson. He wants to be paid like a perennial probowler when he has only had one probowl like season.
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by Slash49:
Quote:
Bowman middle blitz, in backfld to tap gore

tweet from Phil Barber

I'm excited about this Bowman kid. Very intriguing prospect. Could be diamond in the rough, a real bad ass.

How is he a diamond in the rough? If it weren't for off the field issues he would probably would have been a late 1st early 2nd. Everyone knew he had talent, they just questioned his issues. The 3rd round, where he was drafted, is hardly the "rough."

A "diamond in the rough" would be someone whose skills and talents are questionable and not projected to be that great on the next level (e.g., Tom Brady), so they are drafted late or not drafted at all.
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by Slash49:
Quote:
Bowman middle blitz, in backfld to tap gore

tweet from Phil Barber

I'm excited about this Bowman kid. Very intriguing prospect. Could be diamond in the rough, a real bad ass.


He was the best defensive player on a very good Penn State team and defense (that also had Jared Odrick and Sean Lee). Went back and watched the 2009 Rose Bowl- USC vs Penn State. Bowman was the best defensive player on the field for both sides, IMO. Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews, Rey Mulaga and Aaron Maybin were on te field. Bowman just stood out! He is such a good tackler and really has a nice burst and instincts.
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by Slash49:
Quote:
Bowman middle blitz, in backfld to tap gore

tweet from Phil Barber

I'm excited about this Bowman kid. Very intriguing prospect. Could be diamond in the rough, a real bad ass.

How is he a diamond in the rough? If it weren't for off the field issues he would probably would have been a late 1st early 2nd. Everyone knew he had talent, they just questioned his issues. The 3rd round, where he was drafted, is hardly the "rough."

A "diamond in the rough" would be someone whose skills and talents are questionable and not projected to be that great on the next level (e.g., Tom Brady), so they are drafted late or not drafted at all.


He was projected to go in the 2nd rd and even saw him going 1st rd in some mock drafts. Obviously he fell due to some off the field issues and supposedly he bombed at the combine in interviews with a lot of NFL teams.
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Spencer and Lawson both unhappy about their contracts..

Yeah where did you hear Spencer is unhappy with his contract

Barrows
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/2010/05/niners-kick-off.html

So NOW why is SPENCER unhappy???? You know this is BS. You signed an extension dude and now you're unhappy? I'm so over this. You f**king can't have it both ways. You can't sign a deal early in your career, suddenly become unhappy and miss practices because you're not happy with the deal mid-point through the contract? REALLY?

If you don't like the deal (extension) DON'T f**kING SIGN. Sorry for being pissed off but just tired of this foolishness. 49ers need to look for replacements in the secondary and on the DL. Tired of greedy players who haven't really proved anything but being able to be an 8-8 squad. Spencer has been to how many pro-bowls?
Thought so.

I agree 100 percent with what your saying. However, I also think the Niners orginazation messed up by passing out too much money to unproven players like Haralson and Brooks. Some of the vets that have been around are now saying to themselves, WTF? I could see how a guy like Lawson would feel burned when he is making less cheddar than Haralson (the bust) and Brooks. It's one thing to extend guys like Willis and Staley. It's a whole other thing to pay guys who have only shown promise over a half of season.... I think thats one of the reasons we will have a lot of trouble signing Goldson. He wants to be paid like a perennial probowler when he has only had one probowl like season.

I understand what you're saying but that's the deal he signed. No one held a gun to his head and said "sing or leave". If anything, at the time, he was getting money he hadn't even earned based on potential.

I know that all salaries are relative however you can't be "unhappy" when you're under contract and getting paid well. Manny Lawson has a beef. He's not getting paid very much more than the NFL minimum this season. As far as Goldson, I would let that dude walk if he wanted some ridiculous contract. Safeties are interchangeable in this defense. I think CB is much more of a premium.

It almost makes you side with organizations because no matter what players sign for today, they're going to be unhappy tomorrow.

Is a deal a deal anymore ever?
[ Edited by NinerGM on May 17, 2010 at 11:55 AM ]
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Spencer and Lawson both unhappy about their contracts..

Yeah where did you hear Spencer is unhappy with his contract

Barrows
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/2010/05/niners-kick-off.html

So NOW why is SPENCER unhappy???? You know this is BS. You signed an extension dude and now you're unhappy? I'm so over this. You f**king can't have it both ways. You can't sign a deal early in your career, suddenly become unhappy and miss practices because you're not happy with the deal mid-point through the contract? REALLY?

If you don't like the deal (extension) DON'T f**kING SIGN. Sorry for being pissed off but just tired of this foolishness. 49ers need to look for replacements in the secondary and on the DL. Tired of greedy players who haven't really proved anything but being able to be an 8-8 squad. Spencer has been to how many pro-bowls?
Thought so.

I agree 100 percent with what your saying. However, I also think the Niners orginazation messed up by passing out too much money to unproven players like Haralson and Brooks. Some of the vets that have been around are now saying to themselves, WTF? I could see how a guy like Lawson would feel burned when he is making less cheddar than Haralson (the bust) and Brooks. It's one thing to extend guys like Willis and Staley. It's a whole other thing to pay guys who have only shown promise over a half of season.... I think thats one of the reasons we will have a lot of trouble signing Goldson. He wants to be paid like a perennial probowler when he has only had one probowl like season.

Haralson and Brooks did not get blockbuster deals. I really dont think much of it.
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Originally posted by Blitz:
Originally posted by Slash49:
Quote:
Bowman middle blitz, in backfld to tap gore

tweet from Phil Barber

I'm excited about this Bowman kid. Very intriguing prospect. Could be diamond in the rough, a real bad ass.


He was the best defensive player on a very good Penn State team and defense (that also had Jared Odrick and Sean Lee). Went back and watched the 2009 Rose Bowl- USC vs Penn State. Bowman was the best defensive player on the field for both sides, IMO. Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews, Rey Mulaga and Aaron Maybin were on te field. Bowman just stood out! He is such a good tackler and really has a nice burst and instincts.

Agreed.

The funny thing is that so many people on these boards were scratching their heads about the pick just because they hadn't heard of the guy, where in reality, he was a big steal by the Niners. The kid has talent.