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May 10, 2010 at 11:56 AM
- Joecool
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I don't think we should think about extending him just yet. He has been over payed as a TE for his first 3 years. Let him do this for another year and maybe we may continue paying him like a problowler instead of giving him a raise.
May 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM
- DaDivaRecieva15
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Make it happen!!
May 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM
- NJNiner
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That would be so sweet!!! If they can get this done it would be a HUGE statement that this team is serious about winning and keeping thier key players on both sides of the ball. Make it happen!!!! 
May 10, 2010 at 12:00 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:eh, Goldson has potential but last season he seemed confused between the role of FS and SS. He isn't big enough to last a season at SS so his challenge this season will be to see if he can be content being a very good FS. If he shows that by mid-season, extend him. If he has another season like last year, then the 49ers may let him test his market value. He definitely has not shown himself to be worth top 10 FS money.Originally posted by AB83Rules:Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:Originally posted by JD81:
So...say we extend VD.....thats Willis and Davis.....That leaves Dashon Goldson as our other key free agent. Do we go for the Triple Crown, or do we wait until after the season and gamble on losing him?
Umm no, unless it's for like 3 mil a year
aint happening, he wont take 3m a yr, he wants 7M and quite frankly he isnt worth it.
IMO Just get Vernon done.
and then in 2011 offseason, only worry about getting Goldson to reason and if alex and franklin oplay good, they get extended, And then little FA's like Sims, Wilhelm, James, Baas, Wragge, all of which are replacible.
Agreed with everything you said. Goldson was only good for a few games last season. He's replacable.
May 10, 2010 at 12:02 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't think we should think about extending him just yet. He has been over payed as a TE for his first 3 years. Let him do this for another year and maybe we may continue paying him like a problowler instead of giving him a raise.
davis likely wont do an extension during the year, meaning if he has a good year and hits the open market, his price will be higher than it is right now, teams will compete aginast each other to drive the price up and we arent a team that will win a bidding war, its either pay the man now, or play against him in 2011 and beyond
May 10, 2010 at 12:09 PM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:eh, Goldson has potential but last season he seemed confused between the role of FS and SS. He isn't big enough to last a season at SS so his challenge this season will be to see if he can be content being a very good FS. If he shows that by mid-season, extend him. If he has another season like last year, then the 49ers may let him test his market value. He definitely has not shown himself to be worth top 10 FS money.Originally posted by AB83Rules:Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:Originally posted by JD81:
So...say we extend VD.....thats Willis and Davis.....That leaves Dashon Goldson as our other key free agent. Do we go for the Triple Crown, or do we wait until after the season and gamble on losing him?
Umm no, unless it's for like 3 mil a year
aint happening, he wont take 3m a yr, he wants 7M and quite frankly he isnt worth it.
IMO Just get Vernon done.
and then in 2011 offseason, only worry about getting Goldson to reason and if alex and franklin oplay good, they get extended, And then little FA's like Sims, Wilhelm, James, Baas, Wragge, all of which are replacible.
Agreed with everything you said. Goldson was only good for a few games last season. He's replacable.
Give Goldson a nice bump in salary, but $7M per? He's got to be out of his mind. 4 years, $16M is more reasonable.
[ Edited by mayo63 on May 10, 2010 at 12:16:00 ]
May 10, 2010 at 12:12 PM
- susweel
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They should let him play out his contract. I would like to see another productive season before paying him.
May 10, 2010 at 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by crabman82:Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't think we should think about extending him just yet. He has been over payed as a TE for his first 3 years. Let him do this for another year and maybe we may continue paying him like a problowler instead of giving him a raise.
davis likely wont do an extension during the year, meaning if he has a good year and hits the open market, his price will be higher than it is right now, teams will compete aginast each other to drive the price up and we arent a team that will win a bidding war, its either pay the man now, or play against him in 2011 and beyond
Personally, he's not that hard to play against. Just cover the middle of the field. His lack of quickness takes away his over all speed on the short routes or turnaround routes. He's not a good route runner, so you can have a 4.7 speed guy cover him underneath as long as the FS is aware over the top.
May 10, 2010 at 12:16 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by susweel:
They should let him play out his contract. I would like to see another productive season before paying him.
once again if he plays well, we wont be able to afford him, its either do it now, or enjoy his last season in niners colours
May 10, 2010 at 12:16 PM
- HaiGuise
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Why? I like him better without dreads.
May 10, 2010 at 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by HaiGuise:
Why? I like him better without dreads.
I dont i think he looks gay now with his stupid gayhawk gay gay gay gay gay
May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM
- mayo49
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Originally posted by susweel:
They should let him play out his contract. I would like to see another productive season before paying him.
100% agree, but if we can get him on the cheap this year after a couple of good games that would be ideal also.
May 10, 2010 at 12:19 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by crabman82:Originally posted by Joecool:
I don't think we should think about extending him just yet. He has been over payed as a TE for his first 3 years. Let him do this for another year and maybe we may continue paying him like a problowler instead of giving him a raise.
davis likely wont do an extension during the year, meaning if he has a good year and hits the open market, his price will be higher than it is right now, teams will compete aginast each other to drive the price up and we arent a team that will win a bidding war, its either pay the man now, or play against him in 2011 and beyond
Personally, he's not that hard to play against. Just cover the middle of the field. His lack of quickness takes away his over all speed on the short routes or turnaround routes. He's not a good route runner, so you can have a 4.7 speed guy cover him underneath as long as the FS is aware over the top.
personally? were u out there covering him? i get most of his td's came on the same pattern, but the niners can play off that, either have him break his route off, or let 2 or 3 ppl be aware of the seam pass and throw it to someone else, he creates match up problems
[ Edited by crabman82 on May 10, 2010 at 12:20:15 ]
May 10, 2010 at 12:21 PM
- Shifty
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Originally posted by mayo63:Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:eh, Goldson has potential but last season he seemed confused between the role of FS and SS. He isn't big enough to last a season at SS so his challenge this season will be to see if he can be content being a very good FS. If he shows that by mid-season, extend him. If he has another season like last year, then the 49ers may let him test his market value. He definitely has not shown himself to be worth top 10 FS money.Originally posted by AB83Rules:Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:Originally posted by JD81:
So...say we extend VD.....thats Willis and Davis.....That leaves Dashon Goldson as our other key free agent. Do we go for the Triple Crown, or do we wait until after the season and gamble on losing him?
Umm no, unless it's for like 3 mil a year
aint happening, he wont take 3m a yr, he wants 7M and quite frankly he isnt worth it.
IMO Just get Vernon done.
and then in 2011 offseason, only worry about getting Goldson to reason and if alex and franklin oplay good, they get extended, And then little FA's like Sims, Wilhelm, James, Baas, Wragge, all of which are replacible.
Agreed with everything you said. Goldson was only good for a few games last season. He's replacable.
Give Goldson a nice bump in salary, but $7M per? He's got to be out of his mind. 4 years, $16M is more reasonable.
With another good year, Goldson will get at least 5 mil a year.
May 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:Originally posted by mayo63:Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:eh, Goldson has potential but last season he seemed confused between the role of FS and SS. He isn't big enough to last a season at SS so his challenge this season will be to see if he can be content being a very good FS. If he shows that by mid-season, extend him. If he has another season like last year, then the 49ers may let him test his market value. He definitely has not shown himself to be worth top 10 FS money.Originally posted by AB83Rules:Originally posted by TeambyTheBay:Originally posted by JD81:
So...say we extend VD.....thats Willis and Davis.....That leaves Dashon Goldson as our other key free agent. Do we go for the Triple Crown, or do we wait until after the season and gamble on losing him?
Umm no, unless it's for like 3 mil a year
aint happening, he wont take 3m a yr, he wants 7M and quite frankly he isnt worth it.
IMO Just get Vernon done.
and then in 2011 offseason, only worry about getting Goldson to reason and if alex and franklin oplay good, they get extended, And then little FA's like Sims, Wilhelm, James, Baas, Wragge, all of which are replacible.
Agreed with everything you said. Goldson was only good for a few games last season. He's replacable.
Give Goldson a nice bump in salary, but $7M per? He's got to be out of his mind. 4 years, $16M is more reasonable.
With another good year, Goldson will get at least 5 mil a year.
with another good year, he will get more than rolle did, not saying he deserves it but thats the way the league seems to work