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May 11, 2010 at 9:01 AM
- NeeJ49er
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I dont think Jimmy Rayes playcalling will be a weakness, now that we have some talent on the offensive line we should have more options, Alex will need to be under center a lot more for our running game to be more effective, we need to limit how many times we run plays out of the shotgun, it makes our offense more predictable when we use the shotgun so damn much.
May 11, 2010 at 9:11 AM
- dj43
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Originally posted by bigwads:Well said.
From a coaching prospective I believe Raye was taking the long term approach. He started with the basics, and running between the tackles will be a 49er mainstay for years to come. I believe the off-tackle and sweeps will come this year as compliments to the base offense.
If you want to see what our offense will look like go back and look at the offense for the Chiefs when Priest Holmes was scoring 30+ TD's a year. It is the same offense. Like the Chiefs, and with the new OL additions, we have the OL that can run that offense. We didn't have this last year and the offense was still focusing on the building blocks.
I think you are going to see a lightyear like improvement this season. Our OL will become a strength not a weakness, and our skill positions are fantastic. Frankly, I think A.S. is perfect for this team right now. People knock on A.S. without ever looking at the undercurrent which explain his career to date.
This is A.S. second season in the same offense and you are going to see drastic improvement. This offense amplifies what A.S. does well and add some audibles, bootlegs and rollouts and you will see A.S. blossom. For me, if he doesn't have 3500+ yards, 30+ TD's this year I will be disappointed.
This is our year. There are no more excuses this season barring serious injury.
Injuries are always the key to any season but that steps around the question.
You make a good point in the comparison to the Chiefs with Holmes. My only concern is that there have even more rule changes since then that favor a passing game. I hope that Raye will exploit those changes with an offense that will take advantage of that and not just run because they can. Eventually, even the Chiefs had their running game stuffed back in their face, and they lost because they could not pass.
I too believe Smith will thrive in this offense, especially if Ginn proves to be the threat to stretch the defense that they team needs. Ginn provides that second speed guy (Davis) that every offense MUST have if they are to keep a defense honest.
I am still not convinced the defense is fast enough to win against top competition but we will learn soon enough.
May 11, 2010 at 9:53 AM
- maximill15
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Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
I dont think Jimmy Rayes playcalling will be a weakness, now that we have some talent on the offensive line we should have more options, Alex will need to be under center a lot more for our running game to be more effective, we need to limit how many times we run plays out of the shotgun, it makes our offense more predictable when we use the shotgun so damn much.
Yeah I really have a problem with us just being stubborn AKA predictable! I mean just saying your best against our best isn't always the answer! Make it easy on our players with some creative deception! Not RUN, RUN, PASS! I love that we are trying to establish this identity as a rough and tough/ mauling team, but some fines to our offense game plan is also needed imo!
May 11, 2010 at 10:06 AM
- ninertico
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Here's my take on this team's weakness: The secondary specifically the safeties.
I thought that most of the "over the top" completions against our defense occurred as a direct result of limited recovery speed, not bad coverage. The great safeties could anticipate and fly to the ball. M. Lewis and M. Roman don't fly and had serious troubles trying to recover.
On top of that, Goldson would try to knock out folks instead of just wrapping them up to bring them down. He whiffed too many times and especially in GB! IMO, he will improve greatly this year as a result of having one year under his belt as a starter. Goldson showed his potential many times, but more so on MNF against the Tards. That's the Goldson we need to show up EVERY game.
Along with Goldson's development, I believe the same goes for Taylor Mays. Those incredible attributes and top-flight speed will do wonders for this squad. I keep going back to the Farve TD in Minny. Dang, Roman played that as best as he could. He just couldn't get there in time. I believe Mays would have given the situation.
There was a play in the Indy game too where M. Lewis got beat badly, but couldn't recover. As a result, Clark made a first down and some serious yardage. Again, Mays would have been able to run Clark down quickly.
Again, speed, not coverage, is the point here. I believe that Mays will develop his ball-hawking skills, improve on his tackling technique and continue to do what he does best: lay the wood!
It just nice now to have a safety where speed is no longer an issue.
Go #23!
I thought that most of the "over the top" completions against our defense occurred as a direct result of limited recovery speed, not bad coverage. The great safeties could anticipate and fly to the ball. M. Lewis and M. Roman don't fly and had serious troubles trying to recover.
On top of that, Goldson would try to knock out folks instead of just wrapping them up to bring them down. He whiffed too many times and especially in GB! IMO, he will improve greatly this year as a result of having one year under his belt as a starter. Goldson showed his potential many times, but more so on MNF against the Tards. That's the Goldson we need to show up EVERY game.
Along with Goldson's development, I believe the same goes for Taylor Mays. Those incredible attributes and top-flight speed will do wonders for this squad. I keep going back to the Farve TD in Minny. Dang, Roman played that as best as he could. He just couldn't get there in time. I believe Mays would have given the situation.
There was a play in the Indy game too where M. Lewis got beat badly, but couldn't recover. As a result, Clark made a first down and some serious yardage. Again, Mays would have been able to run Clark down quickly.
Again, speed, not coverage, is the point here. I believe that Mays will develop his ball-hawking skills, improve on his tackling technique and continue to do what he does best: lay the wood!
It just nice now to have a safety where speed is no longer an issue.
Go #23!
May 11, 2010 at 10:22 AM
- dbdublin
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Thin at CB and WR. Rookies on the OL and QB has to come through. Overall, the team's talent and depth is the best it's been in years. Good shot at NFC West title.
May 11, 2010 at 10:34 AM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by ninertico:
Here's my take on this team's weakness: The secondary specifically the safeties.
I thought that most of the "over the top" completions against our defense occurred as a direct result of limited recovery speed, not bad coverage. The great safeties could anticipate and fly to the ball. M. Lewis and M. Roman don't fly and had serious troubles trying to recover.
On top of that, Goldson would try to knock out folks instead of just wrapping them up to bring them down. He whiffed too many times and especially in GB! IMO, he will improve greatly this year as a result of having one year under his belt as a starter. Goldson showed his potential many times, but more so on MNF against the Tards. That's the Goldson we need to show up EVERY game.
Along with Goldson's development, I believe the same goes for Taylor Mays. Those incredible attributes and top-flight speed will do wonders for this squad. I keep going back to the Farve TD in Minny. Dang, Roman played that as best as he could. He just couldn't get there in time. I believe Mays would have given the situation.
There was a play in the Indy game too where M. Lewis got beat badly, but couldn't recover. As a result, Clark made a first down and some serious yardage. Again, Mays would have been able to run Clark down quickly.
Again, speed, not coverage, is the point here. I believe that Mays will develop his ball-hawking skills, improve on his tackling technique and continue to do what he does best: lay the wood!
It just nice now to have a safety where speed is no longer an issue.
Go #23!
Agree 100%. Only thing is Mays has straight ahead speed. why he stinks in coverage is b/c he has no instincts and he isn't fluid at turning his hips and running. Which pretty much makes or breaks a guy in the secondary. Regardless of .40 time if he can't turn his hips properly he's not running down anybody b/c by the time he gets around the guy will be gone. The key to his game will be can that part of his game be fixed.
May 11, 2010 at 12:25 PM
- ninertico
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Originally posted by lamontb:Originally posted by ninertico:
Here's my take on this team's weakness: The secondary specifically the safeties.
I thought that most of the "over the top" completions against our defense occurred as a direct result of limited recovery speed, not bad coverage. The great safeties could anticipate and fly to the ball. M. Lewis and M. Roman don't fly and had serious troubles trying to recover.
On top of that, Goldson would try to knock out folks instead of just wrapping them up to bring them down. He whiffed too many times and especially in GB! IMO, he will improve greatly this year as a result of having one year under his belt as a starter. Goldson showed his potential many times, but more so on MNF against the Tards. That's the Goldson we need to show up EVERY game.
Along with Goldson's development, I believe the same goes for Taylor Mays. Those incredible attributes and top-flight speed will do wonders for this squad. I keep going back to the Farve TD in Minny. Dang, Roman played that as best as he could. He just couldn't get there in time. I believe Mays would have given the situation.
There was a play in the Indy game too where M. Lewis got beat badly, but couldn't recover. As a result, Clark made a first down and some serious yardage. Again, Mays would have been able to run Clark down quickly.
Again, speed, not coverage, is the point here. I believe that Mays will develop his ball-hawking skills, improve on his tackling technique and continue to do what he does best: lay the wood!
It just nice now to have a safety where speed is no longer an issue.
Go #23!
Agree 100%. Only thing is Mays has straight ahead speed. why he stinks in coverage is b/c he has no instincts and he isn't fluid at turning his hips and running. Which pretty much makes or breaks a guy in the secondary. Regardless of .40 time if he can't turn his hips properly he's not running down anybody b/c by the time he gets around the guy will be gone. The key to his game will be can that part of his game be fixed.
So so true.
Here's another example of one who came out with incredible measurables, but had some issues with his hands...C'mon on down Vernon Davis! I remember just how he had rocks for hands. Yet, he overcame it by developing that skill and changing his excerise regimine so that he became more flexible. I believe it improved not only his hands, but his overall skill level.
I believe Mays can do the same. He can focus on those hips to make them more limber. He can practice those switches in movement to gain the best acceleration at the point of change in direction.
And yes, that darn straight-line speed is awesome to have when you are trying to catch up.