Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by Leathaface:Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by Leathaface:
1. That football focus site is subjective.
2. Drops are subjective. Not saying VD has the best hands because he doesn't, but ball placement is a key factor in drops.
Use your eyes here people (not OP or some others), VD has become a great weapon for us in the passing game and I don't see any issue with his blocking. The argument that he gets #'s because he gets a lot of targets is silly. Wouldn't you want to target your best receiving option? He responded with a league record for TDs at his position and almost 1000 yards...what's the problem again?
And to those who don't realize this...Dallas Clark IS NOT a traditional TE. He's used as a WR more than anything else. The Colts offense doesn't even require him to be a run blocker.
1. your eyes can be subjective as well. See Kwame Harris. Harris did a decent job for the most part. But he would get a penalty on a key play or 2 and people would say he suck. When in fact on 55ish plays he played decent but all we want to see are those couple bad ones.
2. I agree with this.
How is this targets a silly argument? It is the SAME EXACT ARGUMENT that was made for Vernon Davis not putting up numbers. The argument was he isn't being used properly. He needs to be thrown to such and such amount of times. As far as routes and sh*t go he's being used the same exact way he's always been used just with more opportunity.
So how can it be good enough for an excuse. But not looked at as a result?
Well in reality, it's true that the numbers he puts up are due to targets...you have to have the ball thrown at you to catch it. Let me put it this way...if Jerry Rice wasn't ever thrown the ball in the middle of his prime, wouldn't you say the reason he's not putting up numbers is b/c he's not being utilized properly? I'm sure you would. Now lets say you have some random below avg. WR. Nobody is gonna say he's not putting up numbers b/c of targets...they'd just say he sucks.
Do you honestly think that you could interchange any TE into our offense and they'd respond with 950 yards and 13 TDs with the same number of targets? That's the argument you're making and krizay, lets be real here, it's insane! Like I said before, you're completely removing talent from the equation and speaking as if pass catchers are all equal and only dependent on the number of targets they get...to add, better players get more targets.
See Miles Austin & Roy Williams.
See Steve Smith & Hakeem Nicks
Roy Williams more perceived talent than Miles Austin. Miles Austin more looks better production
Hakeem Nicks more perceived talent than Steve Smith. Steve Smith more looks better production.
By no means am I saying he doesn't have talent because he does. His talents just aren't much better than most of the other TE's around. Alot of players get put in the upper echelon because of numbers they put up. When their numbers had little to do with talent.
Miles Austin was a scrub until T.O. left and got more opportunities. Steve Smith was an average Joe until Plax Cheddar Bobbed himself and he got motrre opportunities. Talent isn't always a factor in why guys all of a sudden come on to the scene.
fixed it for yah
but his calling out ANYBODY in the NFL is not the 49er Way. Better he improve to the sky and let the "talking heads" of the media make the comparisons and the rivalries. 
