Originally posted by KknighthawkK_9er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AKfanster:
Just gonna throw this out there.........
Anybody else ever wonder what the offense would've looked like if Martz was still OC?
I think we would've seen a much better offense..........just saying........
I'm surprised nobody has brought this up. While I was not a fan of Martz, being pulled back a bit by Singletary really seemed to work and work well with Hill at QB. If Hill had started all 16 games last year, he would have been ranked very high last year (I believe it would have been witin the top 10 QB's). Guys such as Bruce, Morgan, Hill, Gore, etc. all excelled. And the offensive line got better the more we went to a balance. The 3rd down %'s were much better under Martz then Raye. I think, with the switch to Smith, adding Crabtree, I think Martz's system was more tailored to the strengths of ALL of our players save for one - V.Davis. That said, Alex has a propensity to always look for the TE so you can assume once they made a few plays, Martz would start to evolve himself and exploit those mismatches as well. Either way, I have no doubt that the continuity of Martz's system and if he was willling to focus on balance a little more, we would be miles ahead of Raye's offense this year. Hell, I wouldn't have been surprised if Hill was still the starting QB either with Alex learning/waiting in the background. Interesting thought!
I agree 100%. People seem to forget how good our offense looked with Hill at the helm under Martz later in '08. We won the TOP handily in a few games as well...something we've never been good at.
Hill at the helm...............4 words I hope to never see or hear again.
Come on man, that's a little ignorant. Nobody here is saying Hill was the next Joe Montana but we have to look at facts here. Hill only started 8 games last year OFF THE BENCH and played in a dumbed-down version of Martz's system and put up 2,046 yards. To put that into perspective, had he played the full 16 games he would have ranked 4th in NFL last year in yards only behind Drew Brees, Kurt Warner & Jay Cutler. He would have been ahead of Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb & Matt Cassel. That's damn good company!
To make another point, that would be close to 700 yards less with Alex Smith under Jimmy Raye's offense this season had Smith played a full 16 games.
So, imagine if Singletary & Martz's ego didn't get in the way and they were able to work together for contunuity and balance. Imagine what Martz could have done with Alex Smith (better arm) the emergence of VD and Michael Crabtree.
The last 8 games in 2008 we played very well, were effecient, more balanced, were much better on 3rd downs, were less predictable, more creative, etc.
Instead, we've got Raye this year for continuity
and Johnson helping HIM on learning about a spread offense, something our whole team is better equipped for. This is sad IMHO!
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 15, 2010 at 13:47:59 ]