Holy Crap- VDs Stats Nearly Identical to Gates when he had 13 TDs in 04 | Page 2

Jan 3, 2010 at 9:51 PM

TonyStarks
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Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
If he strengthen his legs more like Gates, he could be.

What is not strong about VD's legs?

You need that lower body strennfff to break out more YAC.

V.D's legit though. Don't get it twisted.
I hope he stays on with S.F.

Jan 3, 2010 at 9:54 PM

#17

SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
If he strengthen his legs more like Gates, he could be.

What is not strong about VD's legs?

You need that lower body strennfff to break out more YAC.

V.D's legit though. Don't get it twisted.
I hope he stays on with S.F.

He has as much strength as anybody in the league. And much more speed than those at his position. He does get YAC sometimes. IMO his YAC is not quite as good as it could be because he is concentrating so hard on catching first. He wanted to improve his catching. Hopefully it will become more natural evenutally.

At any rate I can't honestly think of 1 TE (YOUNG TE) anywhere in the league I would rather currently have even based on his play right now.

Jan 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM

#18

pelos21
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by crzy:
Just imagine Vernon's stats when he finally eliminates the drops next year

He'll have 16 touchdowns and 1200 yards next year

He's always going to drop some. He's not a natural pass catcher. But like TO you have to just keep throwing him the ball because he is such an explosive game breaker he can make huge plays for you. You just have to keep throwing to him despite some occasional drops.

Jan 3, 2010 at 10:04 PM

#19

HaiGuise
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
If he strengthen his legs more like Gates, he could be.

What is not strong about VD's legs?

You need that lower body strennfff to break out more YAC.

V.D's legit though. Don't get it twisted.
I hope he stays on with S.F.

He has as much strength as anybody in the league. And much more speed than those at his position. He does get YAC sometimes. IMO his YAC is not quite as good as it could be because he is concentrating so hard on catching first. He wanted to improve his catching. Hopefully it will become more natural evenutally.

At any rate I can't honestly think of 1 TE (YOUNG TE) anywhere in the league I would rather currently have even based on his play right now.

If there's any room for improvement with Vernon, it's definitely not in the strength department. Obviously his hands could be better, but I think he agility could be better with more stretching. VD is so heavily muscled and when he's going full speed, it doesn't look like he can make the cuts necessary to make more YAC.

Jan 3, 2010 at 10:33 PM

#20

BrickWillis
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Gates is good company, and so are some guys hes starting over in this years probowl. Lets keep it rollin into next year VD and extend it past week 17

Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM

#21

YungAce
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Originally posted by crzy:
Just imagine Vernon's stats when he finally eliminates the drops next year

He'll have 16 touchdowns and 1200 yards next year

I am the #1 person on the webzone on the Jimmy Raye bandwagon. That guy finally did what I wanted us to do since 2006.....FEED VERNON DAVIS.

that's what i credit raye for. once we have a line we'll see what raye's actually made of. those "bonehead" plays that went bad and we all questioned might have been a 1st with at least 1 better blitz pickup. then everyone would have been praising him.

Jan 3, 2010 at 11:29 PM

#22

Niners99
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
If he strengthen his legs more like Gates, he could be.

What is not strong about VD's legs?

You need that lower body strennfff to break out more YAC.

V.D's legit though. Don't get it twisted.
I hope he stays on with S.F.

he freakin better after we waited through all his crap since 2006.

Jan 3, 2010 at 11:31 PM

#23

GoreGoreGore
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and the sad part is, that people still complain about VD (i've seen the posts, and so have you).

Jan 4, 2010 at 1:23 AM

#24

TonyStarks
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
If he strengthen his legs more like Gates, he could be.

What is not strong about VD's legs?

You need that lower body strennfff to break out more YAC.

V.D's legit though. Don't get it twisted.
I hope he stays on with S.F.

he freakin better after we waited through all his crap since 2006.

I hate contract years afterwards.

I also hope the league keeps the cap on players, otherwise it's V.D. to Dallas or Washington

Jan 4, 2010 at 2:11 AM

#25

Mister49
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by crzy:
Just imagine Vernon's stats when he finally eliminates the drops next year

He'll have 16 touchdowns and 1200 yards next year

He's always going to drop some. He's not a natural pass catcher. But like TO you have to just keep throwing him the ball because he is such an explosive game breaker he can make huge plays for you. You just have to keep throwing to him despite some occasional drops.

Occasional?

haha,j/k

Jan 4, 2010 at 2:21 AM

#26

Dajanksta
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f**k no vd is like what? 240-50? somewhere near that. He needs to quit trying to be some nimble little receiver juking people and run motherf**kers over!!

Jan 4, 2010 at 3:33 AM

#27

49ersMan420
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Originally posted by HaiGuise:
The big difference is the quality of the QB's they had throwing to them. Gates had an average QB in Drew Brees. VD has a superstar in Alex Smith.

[ Edited by 49ersMan420 on Jan 4, 2010 at 3:33 AM ]

Jan 4, 2010 at 3:35 AM

#28

Psinex
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Just imagine when Alex and Vernon have more than one go-to play. I called the skinny post route to Vernon in the Philly game just seconds before it happened...Now we need to add some more routes for Vernon. Hopefully Jimmy Raye makes the most of this off-season and designs a playbook that is catered to our current configuration.

Jan 4, 2010 at 4:09 AM

#29

Ceadderman
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
If he strengthen his legs more like Gates, he could be.

What is not strong about VD's legs?

~Ceadder

Jan 4, 2010 at 4:14 AM

#30

Ceadderman
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
If he strengthen his legs more like Gates, he could be.

What is not strong about VD's legs?

You need that lower body strennfff to break out more YAC.

V.D's legit though. Don't get it twisted.
I hope he stays on with S.F.

he freakin better after we waited through all his crap since 2006.

I hate contract years afterwards.

I also hope the league keeps the cap on players, otherwise it's V.D. to Dallas or Washington

Washington? MAYBE.

Phallus? No. They already have a full Offensive core. Adding Davis is just one more mouth to feed and one ball. That would not be a good thing to do in Phallus. But never know Jerry Jones may have used some of the same Coke that many of the players were busted for. May have interrupted some of the synapses in his brain chemistry.

~Ceadder