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Roll to the right, throw out of bounds, incomplete pass.
Jan 2, 2010 at 1:52 PM
- TRAVELER_9ER
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Maybe they should practice and run at least 3 differnt designed rollout to the right plays for smith, since he does pull to the right quite a bit. IMO Smith should just run the ball down the field once he's out the pocket unless he has a open rcvr downfield. Smith is quick and that would prove to more useful than when he throws the ball away
Jan 2, 2010 at 2:00 PM
- fly15
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Originally posted by taney71:Originally posted by A-R-S:Originally posted by DarthNiner:
When a QB rollout is called, you eliminate half of the field. Which means that it's either going to work (with the receivers running hitch patterns) or it won't (the QB will throw it away). The smart thing to do in that situation is to throw it away rather than force the ball to a defended receiver or to throw it across your body and into the unplayed half of the field for an ill-advised throw.
Nothing wrong with throwing it out of bounds.
I think he's talking about Alex getting jittery to early, running right and chucking it out of bounds. Not designed rollouts.
Come on. At least you Smith haters have to admit that the oline hasn't given either Hill or Smith a ton of time to sit in the pocket. Smith isn't getting jittery too early. He's running for his life.
excuses, excuses, excuses, alex, axcuses, alex....
Jan 2, 2010 at 4:37 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Jan 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM
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That play is called the "Alex Smith Special". He has perfected it
Jan 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM
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Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Then it would be buried in a long thread and their genius despite lack of insight would go unnoticed.
Smith has made better throws than either of these shining examples of a 3rd stringer playing against third stringers. Anyone remember the TD pass to Gore that was a roll out to the left where the line collapsed and Smith rolled out to buy time to throw the perfect pass to Gore? Or do you guys saying he can't do this have another case of convenient memory loss?
Jan 2, 2010 at 6:02 PM
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Roll out or do you mean run out? As in run for your life cause our Oline is scary bad?
Jan 2, 2010 at 6:26 PM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Then it would be buried in a long thread and their genius despite lack of insight would go unnoticed.
Smith has made better throws than either of these shining examples of a 3rd stringer playing against third stringers. Anyone remember the TD pass to Gore that was a roll out to the left where the line collapsed and Smith rolled out to buy time to throw the perfect pass to Gore? Or do you guys saying he can't do this have another case of convenient memory loss?
That's not the point. Just once against the Rams I want to see Smith step up in the Pocket. Just once and Ill be happy. He doesn't even have to throw the ball, just step up and buy a little time.
To me he looks scared and indecisive. Doesn't want to take a hit
Jan 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Then it would be buried in a long thread and their genius despite lack of insight would go unnoticed.
Smith has made better throws than either of these shining examples of a 3rd stringer playing against third stringers. Anyone remember the TD pass to Gore that was a roll out to the left where the line collapsed and Smith rolled out to buy time to throw the perfect pass to Gore? Or do you guys saying he can't do this have another case of convenient memory loss?
Sadly, that's the only example.
Now if somebody was to ask for an example of throws that were average/poor...you get the picture.
ANY NFL QB can make a good throw here and there, it's all about consistency though, something Alex, and many other QB's lack.
Jan 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM
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Sometimes those plays are better than the alternative.
Alternative, from best case senario to worst case senario.
Staying in the pocket:
As you can see rolling to the right, throw out of bounds, incomple pass (The Alex Smith Special) dose't look so bad compared to senerios 3-6. It wouldn't surprise me to see some posters who would rather prefer senerio 6 over 1 or 2.
I like Nate Davis, he has shown some good qualities for a QB. The best thing for him is to stay motivated, learn, work hard and improve on his skills. The longer he stays on the side lines the better. It means that he gets time to develope his skills and it also means Alex Smith is playing well.
Alternative, from best case senario to worst case senario.
Staying in the pocket:
- Throws a completed pass
- Throws a inclompeted pass
- Gets sacked
- Throws a interception
- Gets sacked then fumbles the ball
- Gets blind sided, fumbles and gets bandly injured in the process. (Then starts the Nate Davis Era)
As you can see rolling to the right, throw out of bounds, incomple pass (The Alex Smith Special) dose't look so bad compared to senerios 3-6. It wouldn't surprise me to see some posters who would rather prefer senerio 6 over 1 or 2.
I like Nate Davis, he has shown some good qualities for a QB. The best thing for him is to stay motivated, learn, work hard and improve on his skills. The longer he stays on the side lines the better. It means that he gets time to develope his skills and it also means Alex Smith is playing well.
[ Edited by TT49ers on Jan 2, 2010 at 7:25 PM ]
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:04 PM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Then it would be buried in a long thread and their genius despite lack of insight would go unnoticed.
Smith has made better throws than either of these shining examples of a 3rd stringer playing against third stringers. Anyone remember the TD pass to Gore that was a roll out to the left where the line collapsed and Smith rolled out to buy time to throw the perfect pass to Gore? Or do you guys saying he can't do this have another case of convenient memory loss?
Sadly, that's the only example.
Now if somebody was to ask for an example of throws that were average/poor...you get the picture.
ANY NFL QB can make a good throw here and there, it's all about consistency though, something Alex, and many other QB's lack.
Okay how about the 06 game against Seattle when he rolled out to the left after evading the rush then throwing a pass to Gore for the TD? Or earlier this year when he rolled out to the right to buy time and threw to Morgan for the TD? I am not saying that Smith is going to be a great QB, only that he isn't as bad as most of his critics try to say he is. He has great work ethic and I think that he will work hard to improve his game. If you are one of those people that think a player cannot improve with hard work and perseverance, then I guess there is no reasoning with you.
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:07 PM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Then it would be buried in a long thread and their genius despite lack of insight would go unnoticed.
Smith has made better throws than either of these shining examples of a 3rd stringer playing against third stringers. Anyone remember the TD pass to Gore that was a roll out to the left where the line collapsed and Smith rolled out to buy time to throw the perfect pass to Gore? Or do you guys saying he can't do this have another case of convenient memory loss?
Sadly, that's the only example.
Now if somebody was to ask for an example of throws that were average/poor...you get the picture.
ANY NFL QB can make a good throw here and there, it's all about consistency though, something Alex, and many other QB's lack.
Okay how about the 06 game against Seattle when he rolled out to the left after evading the rush then throwing a pass to Gore for the TD? Or earlier this year when he rolled out to the right to buy time and threw to Morgan for the TD? I am not saying that Smith is going to be a great QB, only that he isn't as bad as most of his critics try to say he is. He has great work ethic and I think that he will work hard to improve his game. If you are one of those people that think a player cannot improve with hard work and perseverance, then I guess there is no reasoning with you.
Or when he hit VD just last weekend!
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:11 PM
- Memphis9er
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Originally posted by MadMartz:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Then it would be buried in a long thread and their genius despite lack of insight would go unnoticed.
Smith has made better throws than either of these shining examples of a 3rd stringer playing against third stringers. Anyone remember the TD pass to Gore that was a roll out to the left where the line collapsed and Smith rolled out to buy time to throw the perfect pass to Gore? Or do you guys saying he can't do this have another case of convenient memory loss?
Sadly, that's the only example.
Now if somebody was to ask for an example of throws that were average/poor...you get the picture.
ANY NFL QB can make a good throw here and there, it's all about consistency though, something Alex, and many other QB's lack.
Okay how about the 06 game against Seattle when he rolled out to the left after evading the rush then throwing a pass to Gore for the TD? Or earlier this year when he rolled out to the right to buy time and threw to Morgan for the TD? I am not saying that Smith is going to be a great QB, only that he isn't as bad as most of his critics try to say he is. He has great work ethic and I think that he will work hard to improve his game. If you are one of those people that think a player cannot improve with hard work and perseverance, then I guess there is no reasoning with you.
Or when he hit VD just last weekend!
Yeah but Alex Leaf sucks and he hasn't ever done anything to show he can play in the NFL...ever.
Seriously, some of these posters make me wonder if they even watch the games.
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:12 PM
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Originally posted by TT49ers:
Sometimes those plays are better than the alternative.
Alternative, from best case senario to worst case senario.
Staying in the pocket:
- Throws a completed pass
- Throws a inclompeted pass
- Gets sacked
- Throws a interception
- Gets sacked then fumbles the ball
- Gets blind sided, fumbles and gets bandly injured in the process. (Then starts the Nate Davis Era)
As you can see rolling to the right, throw out of bounds, incomple pass (The Alex Smith Special) dose't look so bad compared to senerios 3-6. It wouldn't surprise me to see some posters who would rather prefer senerio 6 over 1 or 2.
I like Nate Davis, he has shown some good qualities for a QB. The best thing for him is to stay motivated, learn, work hard and improve on his skills. The longer he stays on the side lines the better. It means that he gets time to develope his skills and it also means Alex Smith is playing well.
u were doing soo well.... until u mentioned "Alex playing well"-----that killed the story
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:14 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
this could've been posted in the 10 other Smith threads.
Then it would be buried in a long thread and their genius despite lack of insight would go unnoticed.
Smith has made better throws than either of these shining examples of a 3rd stringer playing against third stringers. Anyone remember the TD pass to Gore that was a roll out to the left where the line collapsed and Smith rolled out to buy time to throw the perfect pass to Gore? Or do you guys saying he can't do this have another case of convenient memory loss?
Sadly, that's the only example.
Now if somebody was to ask for an example of throws that were average/poor...you get the picture.
ANY NFL QB can make a good throw here and there, it's all about consistency though, something Alex, and many other QB's lack.
Okay how about the 06 game against Seattle when he rolled out to the left after evading the rush then throwing a pass to Gore for the TD? Or earlier this year when he rolled out to the right to buy time and threw to Morgan for the TD? I am not saying that Smith is going to be a great QB, only that he isn't as bad as most of his critics try to say he is. He has great work ethic and I think that he will work hard to improve his game. If you are one of those people that think a player cannot improve with hard work and perseverance, then I guess there is no reasoning with you.
Work ethic will only get you so far, there are intangibles that Smith just doesn't have. After 5 years I can say that with confidence. I've been a Smith supporter up until this offseason, were he couldn't even beat out ol' noodle arm. And for those who say he was still "injured" then, I see very little difference in his passes.
His pocket presence is still bad, he never steps up (and don't give me the OL is s**t excuse, so is Rodger's OL, and so is Ben's OL). Still has no touch on his passes, throws lasers to receivers sitting 3 yards away, still doesn't lead receiver well on passes, most of his passes the receivers have to make tough catches, and still makes inconsistent reads.
He improved his hard account, and ability to throw a seam route pass to VD.
With a great defense, OL, receivers, running back, we will make the SB; but then again, you can throw almost any QB in the NFL on a team like that, and expect to make the SB.
Jan 2, 2010 at 8:14 PM
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Originally posted by fly15:Originally posted by TT49ers:
Sometimes those plays are better than the alternative.
Alternative, from best case senario to worst case senario.
Staying in the pocket:
- Throws a completed pass
- Throws a inclompeted pass
- Gets sacked
- Throws a interception
- Gets sacked then fumbles the ball
- Gets blind sided, fumbles and gets bandly injured in the process. (Then starts the Nate Davis Era)
As you can see rolling to the right, throw out of bounds, incomple pass (The Alex Smith Special) dose't look so bad compared to senerios 3-6. It wouldn't surprise me to see some posters who would rather prefer senerio 6 over 1 or 2.
I like Nate Davis, he has shown some good qualities for a QB. The best thing for him is to stay motivated, learn, work hard and improve on his skills. The longer he stays on the side lines the better. It means that he gets time to develope his skills and it also means Alex Smith is playing well.
u were doing soo well.... until u mentioned "Alex playing well"-----that killed the story