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Attack on the Local Media

  • tmg808
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Well as a fan, I love the 49ers, I keep up with who's on the team, my day is a little gloomier when they lose. I don't think I ever feel angry or tricked at the team with a close loss but I do feel let down. But being let down by something I love doesn't logically lead to anger..

While reading and hearing the media it often excites worse feelings towards the team. When I hear the local media on the radio and read there articles, the criticism coming from the local writers often seem a little harsh in comparison to what I felt right after the game. Usually any mistake made during the game will be published and highlighted no matter the effect it had on the final outcome of the game.

This being said I really feel the media leads the fans to feel bad about the 49ers and leads the players they question after every loss to feel thats the focus from everyone for there failures is there shortcomings. I am not making saying it controls but effecting the teams focus through the year. Wears on there own perception.

Football being a sport where teams ride the energy and you get a different team in the super bowl every year, I feel that the media probably plays a major part in consistent winners. When I look at Tom Brady and the Patriots, they are praised by there local media. When you look at Kobe Bryant and the Lakers you have writers like JA Adande that write great articles about the team and defends why they should be looked at the best team before mid season last year. Nobody writes about how bad Brady looked against the Giants in the Super bowl. Adande didn't focus on the struggles that Kobe and the Lakers had against the Celtics. What they did write about is why it wouldn't happen again, and reason why people shouldn't worry about those failures.

Then you look at the 49ers and a player in my eyes is doing no wrong, Patrick Willis. All I hear about from Patrick Willis is I wish he had a better game in Green Bay. Patrick Willis played at a level last week that was as dominate as any defensive performance I have seen in the league this year. Not one article written about it. The media treats every failure the 49ers have as a here we go again scenario. (That has to rub off on the players) The media doesn't treat Patrick Willis like he is something to build off of but rather that he suppose to do that.

This all being said I blame the media, I blame the media for the negative perception they put on the players and the fans of everything that goes wrong with the 49ers. I am not sure if this is because the York's do not take good care of the media like DeBartolo had, but in the media around here the glass is always half empty.
  • ZRF80
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So you're saying the local media should treat the 49ers the same way the Pats and Lakers are treated by their local media ? And in effect, you feel the support will give the 49ers the boost they need to perform better ?

I dont think so.....
  • tmg808
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Originally posted by ZRF80:
So you're saying the local media should treat the 49ers the same way the Pats and Lakers are treated by their local media ? And in effect, you feel the support will give the 49ers the boost they need to perform better ?

I dont think so.....

I am saying beating a dog when its down doesn't help, and being ready to jump down its throat when it fails can't help either. I feel disappointment when they lose, the media cultivates anger and spite. They treated Mike Nolan's failures like they were part of Dennis Erickson's, they treat Mike Singletary's like they are part of all there failures.

[ Edited by tmg808 on Dec 10, 2009 at 15:28:13 ]
  • ZRF80
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Originally posted by tmg808:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
So you're saying the local media should treat the 49ers the same way the Pats and Lakers are treated by their local media ? And in effect, you feel the support will give the 49ers the boost they need to perform better ?

I dont think so.....

I am saying beating a dog when its down doesn't help, and being ready to jump down its throat when it fails can't help either. I feel disappointment when they lose, the media cultivates anger and spite.

As they should. The team hasnt made the playoffs in 8 years, tied for 3rd longest streak in the NFL. We've been going through the "well there's always next year" BS for far too long. It's about time someone jumps on this teams throat, especially since the fanbase is content with Alex Smith throwing for 300 yards. Lets face it. SF fans are like little doggies........you throw them a biscuit, and they wag their tail.

Im glad someone is trying to hold the team accountable for its pathetic season(s).
Originally posted by tmg808:
Well as a fan, I love the 49ers, I keep up with who's on the team, my day is a little gloomier when they lose. I don't think I ever feel angry or tricked at the team with a close loss but I do feel let down. But being let down by something I love doesn't logically lead to anger..

While reading and hearing the media it often excites worse feelings towards the team. When I hear the local media on the radio and read there articles, the criticism coming from the local writers often seem a little harsh in comparison to what I felt right after the game. Usually any mistake made during the game will be published and highlighted no matter the effect it had on the final outcome of the game.

This being said I really feel the media leads the fans to feel bad about the 49ers and leads the players they question after every loss to feel thats the focus from everyone for there failures is there shortcomings. I am not making saying it controls but effecting the teams focus through the year. Wears on there own perception.

Football being a sport where teams ride the energy and you get a different team in the super bowl every year, I feel that the media probably plays a major part in consistent winners. When I look at Tom Brady and the Patriots, they are praised by there local media. When you look at Kobe Bryant and the Lakers you have writers like JA Adande that write great articles about the team and defends why they should be looked at the best team before mid season last year. Nobody writes about how bad Brady looked against the Giants in the Super bowl. Adande didn't focus on the struggles that Kobe and the Lakers had against the Celtics. What they did write about is why it wouldn't happen again, and reason why people shouldn't worry about those failures.

Then you look at the 49ers and a player in my eyes is doing no wrong, Patrick Willis. All I hear about from Patrick Willis is I wish he had a better game in Green Bay. Patrick Willis played at a level last week that was as dominate as any defensive performance I have seen in the league this year. Not one article written about it. The media treats every failure the 49ers have as a here we go again scenario. (That has to rub off on the players) The media doesn't treat Patrick Willis like he is something to build off of but rather that he suppose to do that.

This all being said I blame the media, I blame the media for the negative perception they put on the players and the fans of everything that goes wrong with the 49ers. I am not sure if this is because the York's do not take good care of the media like DeBartolo had, but in the media around here the glass is always half empty.


A lot of 49ers fans generally feel like a 'stood-up' fat chick on a blind date with what was supposed to be a tall, dark, and handsome dude.

While on the other side... the media represents that tall, dark, and handsome dude took a peek and saw a chubby dame, so he drove away and kicked himself in the nuts for even agreeing to the blind date.

So what I'm trying to say is... the media is not too fond of chubby chasing. -Broken dreams... and broken boners. I mean I love a nice chubby dame once and a while, but you can't build a championship around her.
The bay area media is very soft. In other parts of the country this team would be getting ripped all day all night.
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by tmg808:
Well as a fan, I love the 49ers, I keep up with who's on the team, my day is a little gloomier when they lose. I don't think I ever feel angry or tricked at the team with a close loss but I do feel let down. But being let down by something I love doesn't logically lead to anger..

While reading and hearing the media it often excites worse feelings towards the team. When I hear the local media on the radio and read there articles, the criticism coming from the local writers often seem a little harsh in comparison to what I felt right after the game. Usually any mistake made during the game will be published and highlighted no matter the effect it had on the final outcome of the game.

This being said I really feel the media leads the fans to feel bad about the 49ers and leads the players they question after every loss to feel thats the focus from everyone for there failures is there shortcomings. I am not making saying it controls but effecting the teams focus through the year. Wears on there own perception.

Football being a sport where teams ride the energy and you get a different team in the super bowl every year, I feel that the media probably plays a major part in consistent winners. When I look at Tom Brady and the Patriots, they are praised by there local media. When you look at Kobe Bryant and the Lakers you have writers like JA Adande that write great articles about the team and defends why they should be looked at the best team before mid season last year. Nobody writes about how bad Brady looked against the Giants in the Super bowl. Adande didn't focus on the struggles that Kobe and the Lakers had against the Celtics. What they did write about is why it wouldn't happen again, and reason why people shouldn't worry about those failures.

Then you look at the 49ers and a player in my eyes is doing no wrong, Patrick Willis. All I hear about from Patrick Willis is I wish he had a better game in Green Bay. Patrick Willis played at a level last week that was as dominate as any defensive performance I have seen in the league this year. Not one article written about it. The media treats every failure the 49ers have as a here we go again scenario. (That has to rub off on the players) The media doesn't treat Patrick Willis like he is something to build off of but rather that he suppose to do that.

This all being said I blame the media, I blame the media for the negative perception they put on the players and the fans of everything that goes wrong with the 49ers. I am not sure if this is because the York's do not take good care of the media like DeBartolo had, but in the media around here the glass is always half empty.


A lot of 49ers fans generally feel like a 'stood-up' fat chick on a blind date with what was supposed to be a tall, dark, and handsome dude.

While on the other side... the media represents that tall, dark, and handsome dude took a peek and saw a chubby dame, so he drove away and kicked himself in the nuts for even agreeing to the blind date.

So what I'm trying to say is... the media is not too fond of chubby chasing. -Broken dreams... and broken boners. I mean I love a nice chubby dame once and a while, but you can't build a championship around her.

Holding someone accountable is giving them the right punishment for the mistake. I agree it hurts more to see them loss all these close games, and from my point of view it can be clear what they did wrong at the time, but doesn't the close losses mean they are closer than they were last year because no loss was close before Mike Singletary started coaching.
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Originally posted by tmg808:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
So you're saying the local media should treat the 49ers the same way the Pats and Lakers are treated by their local media ? And in effect, you feel the support will give the 49ers the boost they need to perform better ?

I dont think so.....

I am saying beating a dog when its down doesn't help, and being ready to jump down its throat when it fails can't help either. I feel disappointment when they lose, the media cultivates anger and spite.

As they should. The team hasnt made the playoffs in 8 years, tied for 3rd longest streak in the NFL. We've been going through the "well there's always next year" BS for far too long. It's about time someone jumps on this teams throat, especially since the fanbase is content with Alex Smith throwing for 300 yards. Lets face it. SF fans are like little doggies........you throw them a biscuit, and they wag their tail.
Im glad someone is trying to hold the team accountable for its pathetic season(s).

Every fanbase of every team has fairweather fans. How many terrible towels/Steelers logos on cars and such in the early 2000's. NONE, now that they got two rings in the past couple years, all I see is Steelers sh#t (and I live in Sacramento ).
Originally posted by bjghum:
The bay area media is very soft. In other parts of the country this team would be getting ripped all day all night.

Yeah, the Bay Area media today is nothing like it was in the 80's. -Bill Walsh was practically thrown out into the streets and raped within newspaper headlines for losing the 1987 NFC Championship, and almost missing the playoffs in 1988.

Seriously, a lot of people forget this stuff, this team was actually making the playoffs/winning Superbowls and it was thoroughly ridiculed. Now a days we're not even making the playoffs and we only have about 2 disgruntled beat writers that are actually pointing out how defunct our franchise has become.
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Originally posted by bjghum:
The bay area media is very soft. In other parts of the country this team would be getting ripped all day all night.

On Ralph and Tom I felt good when they ripped Mike Nolan, it was like Nolan's arrogance preventing him from adapting, but the same exact treatment was passed down to Mike Singletary, it wasn't like Sing was handed a gem and ruined it.

And by other parts, like where the Jets are, or maybe the Mets, Or the Knicks, wait when was the last time any of these teams won a championship??

[ Edited by tmg808 on Dec 10, 2009 at 15:45:57 ]
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by bjghum:
The bay area media is very soft. In other parts of the country this team would be getting ripped all day all night.

Yeah, the Bay Area media today is nothing like it was in the 80's. -Bill Walsh was practically thrown out into the streets and raped within newspaper headlines for losing the 1987 NFC Championship, and almost missing the playoffs in 1988.

Seriously, a lot of people forget this stuff, this team was actually making the playoffs/winning Superbowls and it was thoroughly ridiculed. Now a days we're not even making the playoffs and we only have about 2 disgruntled beat writers that are actually pointing out how defunct our franchise has become.

That maybe so, but the difference of media now and media today is that the newspapers had editors, so the strong statements had to have merit before they got printed. Now we have blogs and people say what they feel the people want to hear, there isn't much insight in it, the words are harsh with little justification.
The publics perception of the team is created by the team on game days. If the team wants positive media support they should win more.
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Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The publics perception of the team is created by the team on game days. If the team wants positive media support they should win more.

Even if it isn't positive it doesn't have to be bashing.. I've heard about the timeouts in the first half last week from every writer and person on the radio, but not one of them brought out how wasting the timeouts directly effected something that did happen that caused them to lose
  • kem99
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Originally posted by tmg808:
Well as a fan, I love the 49ers, I keep up with who's on the team, my day is a little gloomier when they lose. I don't think I ever feel angry or tricked at the team with a close loss but I do feel let down. But being let down by something I love doesn't logically lead to anger..

While reading and hearing the media it often excites worse feelings towards the team. When I hear the local media on the radio and read there articles, the criticism coming from the local writers often seem a little harsh in comparison to what I felt right after the game. Usually any mistake made during the game will be published and highlighted no matter the effect it had on the final outcome of the game.

This being said I really feel the media leads the fans to feel bad about the 49ers and leads the players they question after every loss to feel thats the focus from everyone for there failures is there shortcomings. I am not making saying it controls but effecting the teams focus through the year. Wears on there own perception.

Football being a sport where teams ride the energy and you get a different team in the super bowl every year, I feel that the media probably plays a major part in consistent winners. When I look at Tom Brady and the Patriots, they are praised by there local media. When you look at Kobe Bryant and the Lakers you have writers like JA Adande that write great articles about the team and defends why they should be looked at the best team before mid season last year. Nobody writes about how bad Brady looked against the Giants in the Super bowl. Adande didn't focus on the struggles that Kobe and the Lakers had against the Celtics. What they did write about is why it wouldn't happen again, and reason why people shouldn't worry about those failures.

Then you look at the 49ers and a player in my eyes is doing no wrong, Patrick Willis. All I hear about from Patrick Willis is I wish he had a better game in Green Bay. Patrick Willis played at a level last week that was as dominate as any defensive performance I have seen in the league this year. Not one article written about it. The media treats every failure the 49ers have as a here we go again scenario. (That has to rub off on the players) The media doesn't treat Patrick Willis like he is something to build off of but rather that he suppose to do that.

This all being said I blame the media, I blame the media for the negative perception they put on the players and the fans of everything that goes wrong with the 49ers. I am not sure if this is because the York's do not take good care of the media like DeBartolo had, but in the media around here the glass is always half empty.

Wade Phillips got ripped this week and his team is 8-4.

Kobe and the Lakers were ripped by the LA media when they lost to the Celtics in the finals 2 years ago and until last year there were constant questions about whether Kobe could win a title without Shaq.

There hasn't really been much to criticize Brady and the Pats about. Belichek certainly took his share on the 4th down call against the Colts.

There were critics in the media even during the 49er's run from 1981 to 1998 and somehow those teams managed to carry on and do well.

Its not the media's job to prop up the players. Its their job to report what happens and why. What do you want them to do...write that its okay the team had to call a time out before the first play? Or. that it was a good call to try the reverse on the punt return when they had control of the game early?

Willis had a good game on Sunday but not a dominant one. He didn't have a sack. He didn't force a turnover. Yes, he had 16 tackles but ultimately those types of performances get lost when the team loses a game it had to win and does so to a team it should be able to beat.
Originally posted by tmg808:
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
The publics perception of the team is created by the team on game days. If the team wants positive media support they should win more.

Even if it isn't positive it doesn't have to be bashing.. I've heard about the timeouts in the first half last week from every writer and person on the radio, but not one of them brought out how wasting the timeouts directly effected something that did happen that caused them to lose

Even Bill Walsh was raked over the coals for his mistakes, why shouldn't the current team be held to the same standards?