Originally posted by blunt_probe:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by blunt_probe:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by blunt_probe:Originally posted by jreff22:Originally posted by blunt_probe:Originally posted by jreff22:
Jackson has McNabb throwing him the ball.....Probowl QB. What do you really think Jackson would of done with JTO or Hill at QB? He would of never put up those kinds of numbers, so leave it alone!!
Who cares if it wouldn't be the same numbers? He'd still be our #1 and we would have no PR issue.
People wouldn't be all gaga over him because he wouldn't of put up the same numbers. He looks and is a serious WR because of where he is playing, he wouldn't of had that kind of production here which = less desire. For instance if you judged Moss of his Raiders years you wouldn't think much of him as a WR, but its a different story in NE.
What? How can you even begin to say he would act like Moss? No one acts like Moss... He's a playmaker and we could have used him. He was recommended by the G.O.A.T and yet we nabbed Balmer and Chilo instead. You sound as if we actually got a good player in place of DeSean that draft.
You're putting words in my mouth, How can you even begin to say he would act like Moss. What I said was, For instance if you judged Moss of his Raiders years you wouldn't think much of him as a WR. What I'm implying is his production as a Raider was very low so if you solely judged Moss by his playing time in Oakland you wouldn't think much of him as a WR.
Yes, he has game breaking skills in Philly because McNabb can throw a rope at 35 yards. His effectiveness here pre-Smith would of been mediocre at best. Hill wouldn't of been able to use DeSean as he's being used now so the love affair with these massive plays wouldn't exists because we wouldn't of put him in the position to make them anyways.
Again so what if he wouldn't be producing the same numbers? Alex is in now isn't he? A playmaker is still a playmaker, and we passed him TWICE for two scrubs. He wanted to play here, Jerry wanted him to play here, he would have filled two needs, but the niners STILL passed him. I don't understand what down playing what might have happened if he were a niner, because talent is still talent, and we got none out of that draft. End of story.
If he was sitting on the bench in Oakland right now would you still want him to start for us?
What king of argument is that? That's like saying what if Brady never got a chance to start and ended up sitting on the bench for the rest of his life. The point is he was a way better option than Balmer or Chilo. What is so difficult to comprehend about that?
Because you have missed my point 100%. Jackson is putting up MASSIVE numbers because he has an All-Pro QB and is in a very pass happy offense. You drool over the numbers but he landed in the best situation to post those kinds of numbers. The point being great QB's working in pass heavy systems make all of their WR's look great. Brady, Manning, McNabb, Brees etc etc make all of their guys look great. Its easy to point to Jackson and say look what we could of had, "he could of been doing that for us"! Truth is JTO and Hill would of made Jackson look like Jason Hill. Now, having Smith start does change the game up a bit (now) but you still have to look at the QB and the O Coordinator. Just because he looks great there doesn't mean he would look like that here. Can you imagine Hill trying to get the ball to him past 30 yards. This goes back to the point that we wouldn't of even known his possible potential till a few weeks ago when Smith stepped back in, and who knows if he would even see the field. Hill and Jones have caught maybe 5 balls total this year...with Crabs and Morgan starting Jackson would be buried down the depth chart.
