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We'll make our move in 2010

  • mayo49
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I know alot of people are disappointed, but I believe with a year with this offense together and another strong draft where we get a RT and rushing OLB we will compete for the division in 2010. We're just too much in flux to make such a move this year. A year with Alex and these recievers and the defense with another year under it's belt, we will make our move next year. Let's finish out the year by winning our remaining games and go into the offseason on a roll. It's nice to know that Alex is playing well and we don't have to worry about taking a Qb of the future. We have our Qb right now. The future looks good we just got to be patient. Our time will come again. Go Niners!

[ Edited by mayo63 on Dec 7, 2009 at 05:15:51 ]
Originally posted by mayo63:
I know alot of people are disappointed, but I believe with a year with this offense together and another strong draft where we get a RT and rushing OLB we will compete for the division in 2010. We just have to much change for us to make such a move this year. A year with Alex and these recievers and the defense with another year under it's belt, we will make our move next year. Let's finish out the year by winning our remaining games and go into the offseason on a roll. It's nice to know that Alex is playing well and we don't have to worry about taking a Qb of the future. We have our Qb right now. The future looks good we just got to be patient. Our time will come again. Go Niners!

agreed

a full offseason will help a lot to our team.
- alex as the nr 1 qb
- crabtree not missing any training

we need continuity
YEAH!! Theres always next year. And the year after. And the year after that. And the year after that. Please shut the hell up! What makes anyone think that this mediocre team will ever amount to anything more than 6-10, 7-9, 8-8? When did niner fans become okay with an average team doing its best to be average? I want a perennial contender. I want a team I can be proud of and confident in. Instead I have a team where I know with 30 ticks to go in a tie game, they will find a way to f*ck it up. I dont understand how you people think, if you can even call it thinking. The Packers lost their HOF QB and rebuilt and are making a push. The cowboys lost their HOF QB, RB, WR and are back in the race. The Pats are so well rounded that they are always in the playoff conversation, same with the Colts. This team has sucked on swollen testicles since 2002 and every year you fools constantly drink the cool aid on why we're making the playoffs, contending for the division etc. etc. Its like you buy your own hype. Analysts create and add fuel to the hype, but they shouldnt be blamed, b/c they dont know any better. We follow this team like a cult religion and you all are like sheep. None of you are willing to accept this team for what it truly is, a loser! There have been posts this morning about us being like the Packers or Dolphins after they lost a bunch of close games and then rebounded to make the playoffs the next season. Do any of you knobs realize we havent had a QB start the entire season since 2005? I think you guys should put down your collective crack pipe, break up the circle jerk and actually pay attention. This team is awful! We aren't like those packer and dolphin teams. We arent close to being a contender like the elite teams. We have a very average team with a very average coaching staff. So keep making your excuses about how this team had so many coaches, how the ownership is jacked up, how the QBs are this or that. Much like the rest of unthinking consumer driven mass, keep fighting over the nonsensical with your petty arguments and misc assessments of each others intellect. The rest of the NFL is aware this team is nothing and has been nothing for a long time. Odds are its going to stay that way. The unfortunate thing is, the only people who dont see it are the same ones to want it to be more the most.
  • StoneMtnNiner
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dr8van:

I understand that you are dissappointed, but what do you suggest that Niners fans do in this situation? Give up, cut and run, or find another team to root for. You make some valid points, but some others are up for debate. For instance, the Cowboys may make the playoffs, but what really have they done in the last 13 years (no playoff wins). Also, they went through plenty of QB's and coaches before Tony Romo and Wade Phillips. I'm new to this board but I've been a fan for over 30 years and my belief is that this team is finally coming around. Gore, Crabtree, Willis, V. Davis and yes Alex Smith give fans a reason to be hopeful. Lets see how the rest of the season turns out before we propose changes. Remember, we have 2 first round picks in a supposedly deep draft along with plenty of cap space (even though its an uncapped year). O-line, a pass rusher, and offensive continuity would go along way for this team. Keep the faith!!!!!!
Originally posted by StoneMtnNiner:
dr8van:

I understand that you are dissappointed, but what do you suggest that Niners fans do in this situation? Give up, cut and run, or find another team to root for. You make some valid points, but some others are up for debate. For instance, the Cowboys may make the playoffs, but what really have they done in the last 13 years (no playoff wins). Also, they went through plenty of QB's and coaches before Tony Romo and Wade Phillips. I'm new to this board but I've been a fan for over 30 years and my belief is that this team is finally coming around. Gore, Crabtree, Willis, V. Davis and yes Alex Smith give fans a reason to be hopeful. Lets see how the rest of the season turns out before we propose changes. Remember, we have 2 first round picks in a supposedly deep draft along with plenty of cap space (even though its an uncapped year). O-line, a pass rusher, and offensive continuity would go along way for this team. Keep the faith!!!!!!

Bro,

We had 2 fist round picks in '06...see Lawson and Davis. Picks arent this teams problem. The draft is hit or miss and what ever positive impact may not be felt for a few years. The point is, we lost Steve in 99. We had Jeff and TO, which got us 2 playoff appearances in 01 (Loss to GB in GB, no surprise) and the 02 come from behind game against the Giants at the stick. Keep in mind, Eddie D. gave up control of the team in 2000. 99 was the end of the great QB era in SF. 2000 was the end of the great ownership era. 10 years of rebuilding through the draft, through free agency. Changes in coaches and gms and team presidents. It all has culminated in nothing but a consistent 7-9. Which is ironic, a team that lacks consistency is consistent when it comes to the most important measurement of all, wins and losses. My suggestion to niner nation...be honest with yourselves about what this team is. Stop buying the merchandise, stop going to the games. The only way to change the culture around the team is to change their bottom dollar. Though fat chance on that one!
Davis will be a Pro-bowler this year and Lawson is a solid back up. This will be the deepest draft in recent memory due to the uncapped year...almost everyone eligible will come out. The Niners will likely be given the opportunity to trade down with one of their 2 top 15 picks. Our problem now is that we will need to draft another running back somewhere in the first three rounds, as neither Gore nor Coffee fit our restructured offense (especially Coffee). We should have kept Sheets...perfect fit for the spread (needs to pick up blitzes though).

Regardless, the starting talent on this team is unquestioned. Another good draft should shore up the OL, OLB and secondary. Every team in the NFL has weaknesses... the nature of having a salary cap.

We play in the NFC West, so 9-7 or 10-6 can win it every year. For the first time in 10 years I feel good about this team.
Originally posted by DaNiners:
Davis will be a Pro-bowler this year and Lawson is a solid back up. This will be the deepest draft in recent memory due to the uncapped year...almost everyone eligible will come out. The Niners will likely be given the opportunity to trade down with one of their 2 top 15 picks. Our problem now is that we will need to draft another running back somewhere in the first three rounds, as neither Gore nor Coffee fit our restructured offense (especially Coffee). We should have kept Sheets...perfect fit for the spread (needs to pick up blitzes though).

Regardless, the starting talent on this team is unquestioned. Another good draft should shore up the OL, OLB and secondary. Every team in the NFL has weaknesses... the nature of having a salary cap.

We play in the NFC West, so 9-7 or 10-6 can win it every year. For the first time in 10 years I feel good about this team.

Lawson is a solid starter
I love the optimism, but with all due respect I hear this EVERY year.

We have made strides, yes, but the net results may be no better than last year--is everyone really so used to mediocrity that they are willing to sit back and take it yet again? It kind of sounds like alot of fans are either too young to really appreciate the amazing run we had when we were a class organization, or they are like a battered wife who keeps making excuses for the husband that never does right by them. We have to make the RIGHT decisions as an organization at the top in order to be sure that good decisions regarding personnel and strategy are made; we have yet to do this--consistently, anyway.

There are some lessons our HC has yet to learn and that has literally cost us games. It is his job to give us the best chance to win with the players we have, and he hasn't done it. He even acts SURPRISED when we lose, largely due to his errors....that does not inspire confidence in me. Even worse, considering that we are in the weakest division in the league and our fast start against those teams, we actually could've made some hay this year....because we can't beat Seattle, that is all but over.

The reason people want coaches like Shanahan and Gruden is because they have shown an ability to win. We have 5 of those this year, one against a winning team--does that mean we have turned a corner? To hear some of you, it would seem so.... Would you run your business this way? Satisfied with mediocre performances from your management that have put you in the red for 6 years in a row? I would bet you wouldn't, so why be so weak-kneed now?
we need OL , we will make our move !
Originally posted by mayo63:
I know alot of people are disappointed, but I believe with a year with this offense together and another strong draft where we get a RT and rushing OLB we will compete for the division in 2010. We're just too much in flux to make such a move this year. A year with Alex and these recievers and the defense with another year under it's belt, we will make our move next year. Let's finish out the year by winning our remaining games and go into the offseason on a roll. It's nice to know that Alex is playing well and we don't have to worry about taking a Qb of the future. We have our Qb right now. The future looks good we just got to be patient. Our time will come again. Go Niners!

I think so. I am beginning to wonder, though, whether our pass rush problems won't be sorted by a combination of Lawson and Brooks, next year, and whether our big issue this off-season, other than the O line which is crucial, won't be the defensive backfield.

But we appear to have a quarterback and some weapons. Crabtree next year after a training camp could be interesting

2010
Just imagine our offense with an entire offseason of using the spread offense. (Remember, that the spread offense was put in using only 3-4 practices a week starting only TWO weeks ago!)

With the addition of oline depth, pass rush help, and possibly drafting CJ Spiller or Jahvid Best as our backup RB and special teams returner, our team can only get better.

Also, with Warner (retirement) and Boldin (FA) possibly leaving Arizona, the NFC West will be wide open.
Originally posted by cNiner:
we need OL , we will make our move !

Agreed. I would use two of our first three picks for a tackle and a guard, then try to get help with the secondary and pass rush. I think we should also target a very quick RB/punt returner type later in the draft.

We're getting there. This year reminds me a bit of 1980. Final record, 6-10, but it was very frustrating because we saw glimmers of a good team and were pretty competitive in most games despite the bad record. Walsh then drafted our DBs for the next decade, added Hacksaw and Dean...Super Bowl. This year, though, we need to draft the offensive line for the next decade. I think we're pretty well stocked at the skill positions on offense. Keep Smith well protected, chucking to Crabtree and Davis and this team is going to compete for the next ten years. Frustrated, yes, but not discouraged.
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