This offense could be SCARY good...

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by LBSI9ers:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by LBSI9ers:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Dream on bro, Smith is here for at least the remainder of his contract, and if he keeps improving, for longer than that. The supposedly great crop of QB's coming out this next draft are nothing special. You seem to not understand that no matter what QB we had drafted in '05 he would have struggled with the crappy team we had at the time. If we had drafted Rodgers and Smith had gone to GB, then Rodgers would have struggled and Smith would have had the benefit of learning behind one of the greats.

Stop that retarted argument please. Eventually we got good, and A-Rod always had his skills, the moron um well "he's good in the spread", come the hell on. We'd be defending NFC West Champs like we should of been the last 7 years cuz this is our division, but that's a whole nothing thing. Hell if we had Jeff Garcia we would of won the division last year. Peyton Manning got his butt whooped early on, just about every QB does, the thing is can he play, is he what his pick was worth, etc. To compare A-Rod to Alex, is like comparing Flash to Darko.

First off if you are going to call something retarded, at least spell it right, that way you don't look the part.

Can things be retarded?

According to waiting4number6 an idea can not only be retarded, but also retarted.

That is funny man. I hate retarts too.

Yeah once the original tartness is gone, it's time to move on.

I can't stop laughing that is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. You and I are probably retarting the whole board with this thread.

There's no such thing as a scary good offense without a Pro Bowl QB.

Best case scenario we can look forward to is a consisantly good offense.

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
Mr, Cheddar cheese man.. oh wait;

Ohhh I such a hater, I find someone give you a good time, then you don't have to write trash about our savior Alex da.. punkette.

He has WON two games, get a frickin clue would you!!! Can you count to; two?

Our O will be soooo "awesome" when we have an O line and, dare I say, a QB who can make everything just beautiful! Unlike the train wreck that is Al Smith, I mean, get a clue, how hard can it be fer the Bearded One's sake???

He has done about shi*t to this point in his career, what don't you understand about that?!?!

If the c**t wins, say 50% of the last games, then I think we can say; He is our Savior, except when he sucks! Good to go, or wot??

Cheese man, you never fail to amuse me.. no really, I mean it, no, wait, no the F**k ever..

How about sum fondue or better yet; Mac n Chesse!!

Hey Bali you should take a Writing course or 2 or 3.

Because if you're going to talk trash it would help if the target could READ wth you're saying.

Just a piece of friendly advice from the target of your attempted trash talk.And btw? I never said Alex was the savior. If you can find ONE post where I state that you will find a sixer of Guinness stout in your mailbox.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by LBSI9ers:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by LBSI9ers:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Dream on bro, Smith is here for at least the remainder of his contract, and if he keeps improving, for longer than that. The supposedly great crop of QB's coming out this next draft are nothing special. You seem to not understand that no matter what QB we had drafted in '05 he would have struggled with the crappy team we had at the time. If we had drafted Rodgers and Smith had gone to GB, then Rodgers would have struggled and Smith would have had the benefit of learning behind one of the greats.

Stop that retarted argument please. Eventually we got good, and A-Rod always had his skills, the moron um well "he's good in the spread", come the hell on. We'd be defending NFC West Champs like we should of been the last 7 years cuz this is our division, but that's a whole nothing thing. Hell if we had Jeff Garcia we would of won the division last year. Peyton Manning got his butt whooped early on, just about every QB does, the thing is can he play, is he what his pick was worth, etc. To compare A-Rod to Alex, is like comparing Flash to Darko.

First off if you are going to call something retarded, at least spell it right, that way you don't look the part.

Can things be retarded?

According to waiting4number6 an idea can not only be retarded, but also retarted.

That is funny man. I hate retarts too.

Yeah once the original tartness is gone, it's time to move on.

Hey at least the guy can't say I was pickin on him. But aren't retarts in the same family as the sweet tarts? I really like the latter so maybe the retarts are an industrial strength version of those?

~Ceadder... In Baliese it's CHADDER not Cheddar or Chatter. lmao. One too many G&T I think. The spelling is Gaelic and a combination of my name and a nickname I had as a kid. Ceadda is the name. Maybe I should just post it on my site blog.

[ Edited by Ceadderman on Dec 4, 2009 at 23:45:51 ]

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Alex Smith IS playing well but until some of you guys get hit on the head with the playoffs or a 6 TD game you aren't going to see that. That is fine. Now to address your QB's.

Bradford and Alex Smith are very similar in skill set and size so that wouldn't be smart to trade pretty much the same player for a less experienced one now would it? Colt McCoy.... Tim Tebow.... lol

Jake Locker and Clausen could be good down the road. Clausen is more NFL ready. Clausen in my opinion is the best QB in the draft right now but Locker has the most upside.

Either way, we don't need a QB. I know you don't wanna miss out on that franchise QB that will take us to the promised land but you're going to have to. This team is missing 4 pieces and QB is not one of them.

Wow you sound like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, honestly, he's got what 6, 7 picks in 4 starts. I mean hell if we had a decent QB we'd have a winning record now. The Colt game if we had one we win, the Titan game we win, the Bear game we win by 20, the Jag game we win by 30, the Houston game we don't get down by 20 in the first place. Give be a break and be real, for goodness sake, the game at Lambeau is your star witness in the I'm ashamed that that guy is our QB saga. You wanna talk about being outplayed. And we still got decent heat on A-Rod, difference is, Rodgers is gonna be Pro Bowler the rest of his days, Alex well I don't even wanna think about the guy. I defended him to no end. Something finally killed that, he's a lameoid. He has to have the spread to be any kind of QB, what is this college?! This is the NFL, which mean Not For Long (should of been anyways thank you Mike Nolan and Scoty Mac for not getting at least a Garcia in here), he's first overall and A-Rod with no O-line is f'ing lapping him. How do you throw for less than 130 yards, after having the ball handed to you 5 F'ING TIMES!? 10 points at home, vs. one corner and a converted corner who now plays safety. And your still defending this moron, jeez I'm a pretty big Niner fan, but this takes the cake, to blindly defend this lack of NFL QB is a sham, he should be a career back up, the only reason we're 5-6 rite now is cuz of the rest of the talent and the coaching staff. Get off the porch already, yikez.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You may be a big niner fan but you're clearly not a fan of actually knowing the game of football. Rodgers sat for 3 years before entering into a system he knew well and with talent around him. Rodgers was getting sacked over and over again this year because he was holding onto the ball too long, a problem which he fixed over the bi. I do not think he's been under too much heat since he has been getting rid of the ball. If Rodgers and Alex switched situations we would probably be bagging on Rodgers and wishing we'd drafted Alex.

I am not defending blindly. You are objecting blindly. Alex's rating out of the shotgun is over 100. Last week dropped balls are the only reason we didn't beat the Jags by 30 and Alex didn't throw for 300.

And you want to say, "Mmmm, why can he only throw from Shotgun? He isn't any good because he is a 'system' guy." Well....

Let me put this to you plainly.... The ONLY reason we're running the gun is because our OLine cannot protect.

Smith seemed to run Turner's offense pretty well, so it isn't that he can't run a normal offense, it's just that we don't have the correct personnel and coaches to do so. I also agree that this guy has no idea what he's talking about.

You should really go back and take a look at that myth year of great Alex. He may have had good first few games, but take a look at his last 9.

2006 was a myth year for Smith. Gore covering over 2000 total yards should answer a few questions.

Smith has had one legitimate game this year. Let's not get ahead of ourselved, ain't no one scared of Alex Smith until he does it 3 games in a row. 3 full games, that is.

So what you're saying is that Gore covered up for Alex's being a poor QB? Ain't that sposed to happen on any Offense with ANY QB in their 2nd year?

Gimme a break man that's like saying that Battle covered for Gore and that Gore was not that solid of a Back. It's ALL one unit. They cover for each other. That's how my team played ball when I played the game any way. Don't know what your Coaches told you when you played but it's a team sport. No "I" in "TEAM" bruh.

~Ceadder

No I in team, Alex doesn't even deserve to be one this TEAM (go blame Scoty Mac and Nolan for that I would then and now drafted the other QB the one who's actually good). John Brodie, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, and Alex NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, put down the spiked Kool-Aid.

Oh give me a break man. You're acting like a straight up hater. You can't even give the guy props on one solid game, and then saying he doesn't een deserve to be on this team? What the hell? I guess neither does half the damn team than since most of them aren't probowlers, or singletary as coach since he made alex the QB, or scotty as the GM, or Jed as the owner, or Raye as the OC, etc. Since half of this team isn't good enough for you maybe you should try the raiders? Then you can listen to Al D speak of the "greatness of da raidahs!!!!" and "just win baby!!!!!" and "da raidah nashun!!!!!". That good enough for you?

So you have some weird and false view of everyone on our team was picked first overall in the Draft and picked over a MUCH better player at the same position, yeah that makes sense. Oh wait it makes no sense. The moron is a moron, I mean jeez he can't throw for 300 yards it's like some disease he has. Tim Rattay could throw for 400, with Brandon freakin Lloyd. Alex has all the help he needs at WR and RB he still cant do ish, he couldn't even put up 30 when the Jagz dared him to tear em up. I mean seriously it's like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, except our moron was supposed to be something, let alone our franchise QB.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
There's no such thing as a scary good offense without a Pro Bowl QB.

Best case scenario we can look forward to is a consisantly good offense.

Well tjd now that you mention it, if the team hadn't wasted the time Starting Hill Alex might just as well have done enough to go to the Pro Bowl.

But whatever. I'm just glad he put a complete game in this season. Now is the time for him to take it to the next level. Jeez it's crazy how fast a thread can get off track around this place.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Alex Smith IS playing well but until some of you guys get hit on the head with the playoffs or a 6 TD game you aren't going to see that. That is fine. Now to address your QB's.

Bradford and Alex Smith are very similar in skill set and size so that wouldn't be smart to trade pretty much the same player for a less experienced one now would it? Colt McCoy.... Tim Tebow.... lol

Jake Locker and Clausen could be good down the road. Clausen is more NFL ready. Clausen in my opinion is the best QB in the draft right now but Locker has the most upside.

Either way, we don't need a QB. I know you don't wanna miss out on that franchise QB that will take us to the promised land but you're going to have to. This team is missing 4 pieces and QB is not one of them.

Wow you sound like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, honestly, he's got what 6, 7 picks in 4 starts. I mean hell if we had a decent QB we'd have a winning record now. The Colt game if we had one we win, the Titan game we win, the Bear game we win by 20, the Jag game we win by 30, the Houston game we don't get down by 20 in the first place. Give be a break and be real, for goodness sake, the game at Lambeau is your star witness in the I'm ashamed that that guy is our QB saga. You wanna talk about being outplayed. And we still got decent heat on A-Rod, difference is, Rodgers is gonna be Pro Bowler the rest of his days, Alex well I don't even wanna think about the guy. I defended him to no end. Something finally killed that, he's a lameoid. He has to have the spread to be any kind of QB, what is this college?! This is the NFL, which mean Not For Long (should of been anyways thank you Mike Nolan and Scoty Mac for not getting at least a Garcia in here), he's first overall and A-Rod with no O-line is f'ing lapping him. How do you throw for less than 130 yards, after having the ball handed to you 5 F'ING TIMES!? 10 points at home, vs. one corner and a converted corner who now plays safety. And your still defending this moron, jeez I'm a pretty big Niner fan, but this takes the cake, to blindly defend this lack of NFL QB is a sham, he should be a career back up, the only reason we're 5-6 rite now is cuz of the rest of the talent and the coaching staff. Get off the porch already, yikez.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You may be a big niner fan but you're clearly not a fan of actually knowing the game of football. Rodgers sat for 3 years before entering into a system he knew well and with talent around him. Rodgers was getting sacked over and over again this year because he was holding onto the ball too long, a problem which he fixed over the bi. I do not think he's been under too much heat since he has been getting rid of the ball. If Rodgers and Alex switched situations we would probably be bagging on Rodgers and wishing we'd drafted Alex.

I am not defending blindly. You are objecting blindly. Alex's rating out of the shotgun is over 100. Last week dropped balls are the only reason we didn't beat the Jags by 30 and Alex didn't throw for 300.

And you want to say, "Mmmm, why can he only throw from Shotgun? He isn't any good because he is a 'system' guy." Well....

Let me put this to you plainly.... The ONLY reason we're running the gun is because our OLine cannot protect.

Smith seemed to run Turner's offense pretty well, so it isn't that he can't run a normal offense, it's just that we don't have the correct personnel and coaches to do so. I also agree that this guy has no idea what he's talking about.

You should really go back and take a look at that myth year of great Alex. He may have had good first few games, but take a look at his last 9.

2006 was a myth year for Smith. Gore covering over 2000 total yards should answer a few questions.

Smith has had one legitimate game this year. Let's not get ahead of ourselved, ain't no one scared of Alex Smith until he does it 3 games in a row. 3 full games, that is.

So what you're saying is that Gore covered up for Alex's being a poor QB? Ain't that sposed to happen on any Offense with ANY QB in their 2nd year?

Gimme a break man that's like saying that Battle covered for Gore and that Gore was not that solid of a Back. It's ALL one unit. They cover for each other. That's how my team played ball when I played the game any way. Don't know what your Coaches told you when you played but it's a team sport. No "I" in "TEAM" bruh.

~Ceadder

No I in team, Alex doesn't even deserve to be one this TEAM (go blame Scoty Mac and Nolan for that I would then and now drafted the other QB the one who's actually good). John Brodie, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, and Alex NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, put down the spiked Kool-Aid.

Oh give me a break man. You're acting like a straight up hater. You can't even give the guy props on one solid game, and then saying he doesn't een deserve to be on this team? What the hell? I guess neither does half the damn team than since most of them aren't probowlers, or singletary as coach since he made alex the QB, or scotty as the GM, or Jed as the owner, or Raye as the OC, etc. Since half of this team isn't good enough for you maybe you should try the raiders? Then you can listen to Al D speak of the "greatness of da raidahs!!!!" and "just win baby!!!!!" and "da raidah nashun!!!!!". That good enough for you?

So you have some weird and false view of everyone on our team was picked first overall in the Draft and picked over a MUCH better player at the same position, yeah that makes sense. Oh wait it makes no sense. The moron is a moron, I mean jeez he can't throw for 300 yards it's like some disease he has. Tim Rattay could throw for 400, with Brandon freakin Lloyd. Alex has all the help he needs at WR and RB he still cant do ish, he couldn't even put up 30 when the Jagz dared him to tear em up. I mean seriously it's like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, except our moron was supposed to be something, let alone our franchise QB.

Dude lets see here can't throw for 300 yards?

Can we agree that with the 40 yards negated by Walker stepping out of bounds with NOTHING in front of him except paydirt, the dropped Pass in the End Zone by Crabtree and the 4 drops by Morgan that Smith WOULD have had over 300 in the last game alone?

Oh but I forgot it's Alex's job to run behind the Pass grab the Ball Carrier and throw him over his shoulder and run for the End Zone.

Could you do me a favor? Please?...








I'll give you a piece of bubble gum if you get your mother to take the keyboard away from you. I really don't wish to see you hurt yourself. And the way you're going that is a distinct possibility.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Goldtimer:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by B650:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Alex Smith IS playing well but until some of you guys get hit on the head with the playoffs or a 6 TD game you aren't going to see that. That is fine. Now to address your QB's.

Bradford and Alex Smith are very similar in skill set and size so that wouldn't be smart to trade pretty much the same player for a less experienced one now would it? Colt McCoy.... Tim Tebow.... lol

Jake Locker and Clausen could be good down the road. Clausen is more NFL ready. Clausen in my opinion is the best QB in the draft right now but Locker has the most upside.

Either way, we don't need a QB. I know you don't wanna miss out on that franchise QB that will take us to the promised land but you're going to have to. This team is missing 4 pieces and QB is not one of them.

Wow you sound like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, honestly, he's got what 6, 7 picks in 4 starts. I mean hell if we had a decent QB we'd have a winning record now. The Colt game if we had one we win, the Titan game we win, the Bear game we win by 20, the Jag game we win by 30, the Houston game we don't get down by 20 in the first place. Give be a break and be real, for goodness sake, the game at Lambeau is your star witness in the I'm ashamed that that guy is our QB saga. You wanna talk about being outplayed. And we still got decent heat on A-Rod, difference is, Rodgers is gonna be Pro Bowler the rest of his days, Alex well I don't even wanna think about the guy. I defended him to no end. Something finally killed that, he's a lameoid. He has to have the spread to be any kind of QB, what is this college?! This is the NFL, which mean Not For Long (should of been anyways thank you Mike Nolan and Scoty Mac for not getting at least a Garcia in here), he's first overall and A-Rod with no O-line is f'ing lapping him. How do you throw for less than 130 yards, after having the ball handed to you 5 F'ING TIMES!? 10 points at home, vs. one corner and a converted corner who now plays safety. And your still defending this moron, jeez I'm a pretty big Niner fan, but this takes the cake, to blindly defend this lack of NFL QB is a sham, he should be a career back up, the only reason we're 5-6 rite now is cuz of the rest of the talent and the coaching staff. Get off the porch already, yikez.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You may be a big niner fan but you're clearly not a fan of actually knowing the game of football. Rodgers sat for 3 years before entering into a system he knew well and with talent around him. Rodgers was getting sacked over and over again this year because he was holding onto the ball too long, a problem which he fixed over the bi. I do not think he's been under too much heat since he has been getting rid of the ball. If Rodgers and Alex switched situations we would probably be bagging on Rodgers and wishing we'd drafted Alex.

I am not defending blindly. You are objecting blindly. Alex's rating out of the shotgun is over 100. Last week dropped balls are the only reason we didn't beat the Jags by 30 and Alex didn't throw for 300.

And you want to say, "Mmmm, why can he only throw from Shotgun? He isn't any good because he is a 'system' guy." Well....

Let me put this to you plainly.... The ONLY reason we're running the gun is because our OLine cannot protect.

Smith seemed to run Turner's offense pretty well, so it isn't that he can't run a normal offense, it's just that we don't have the correct personnel and coaches to do so. I also agree that this guy has no idea what he's talking about.

You should really go back and take a look at that myth year of great Alex. He may have had good first few games, but take a look at his last 9.

2006 was a myth year for Smith. Gore covering over 2000 total yards should answer a few questions.

Smith has had one legitimate game this year. Let's not get ahead of ourselved, ain't no one scared of Alex Smith until he does it 3 games in a row. 3 full games, that is.

So what you're saying is that Gore covered up for Alex's being a poor QB? Ain't that sposed to happen on any Offense with ANY QB in their 2nd year?

Gimme a break man that's like saying that Battle covered for Gore and that Gore was not that solid of a Back. It's ALL one unit. They cover for each other. That's how my team played ball when I played the game any way. Don't know what your Coaches told you when you played but it's a team sport. No "I" in "TEAM" bruh.

~Ceadder

No I in team, Alex doesn't even deserve to be one this TEAM (go blame Scoty Mac and Nolan for that I would then and now drafted the other QB the one who's actually good). John Brodie, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, and Alex NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, put down the spiked Kool-Aid.

You're so wise with your words. You don't deserve to be ONE this forum. ONE the other hand, who cares what people think on here. We're all sitting on our asses and only fans of a team that's trying to make the best out of what they have to work with. That right now is Alex working out of the gun, and not trying to smash people with an oline that gets smashed itself. It's easy to be negative with our thoughts of the team we are a fan of. Because that's all we will ever be in terms of this organization. But it's even easier to see when someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

Of course it's easy to be negative when you have something ridiculously stupid to be negative about. The franchise picked a moron over a stud. Jeez, every time I think about it, it makes me sick. I was 7 freaking teen and I knew Rodgers was better let alone better for us. Your telling me 17 year old knew something a vet GM and veteran Coach in this league didn't? That one decision is still hurting us. Watching that Packer game 2 weeks back made me sick, your telling me one decision is the main reason a talented football team in the NFL still has a losing record. Even if Alex FINALLY wakes the hell up, he still won't touch A-Rod. The rest of our team especially our offense is solid, I mean we have half way decent guards, ok so... 21 still can run on basically anyone, especially when they don't put 8 and 9 in the box. And we have everything else, the franchise LT, the WR's TE's FB backup RB, whatever, and a good defense that's only gonna get better, but oh wait what's holding us back the QB. If we had a decent one that would be fine, but Shaun Hill burned out or forgot how to throw the ball correctly or I don't even know, and Alex is a moron, so until we get at the least a decent QB, that 6th Super Bowl is gonna be out of our grasp, I mean even the post Super Bowl Jake Delhomme could get to the Playoffs, point is he holds his team back from the real prize, something we always strive for cuz were the Niners and that 7 year drought and being mediocre is over, we have the players now, we just need the freaking quarterback to go with it.

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:
Mr, Cheddar cheese man.. oh wait;

Ohhh I such a hater, I find someone give you a good time, then you don't have to write trash about our savior Alex da.. punkette.

He has WON two games, get a frickin clue would you!!! Can you count to; two?

Our O will be soooo "awesome" when we have an O line and, dare I say, a QB who can make everything just beautiful! Unlike the train wreck that is Al Smith, I mean, get a clue, how hard can it be fer the Bearded One's sake???

He has done about shi*t to this point in his career, what don't you understand about that?!?!

If the c**t wins, say 50% of the last games, then I think we can say; He is our Savior, except when he sucks! Good to go, or wot??

Cheese man, you never fail to amuse me.. no really, I mean it, no, wait, no the F**k ever..

How about sum fondue or better yet; Mac n Chesse!!

Um, huh....? Wait.... What???

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Dude lets see here can't throw for 300 yards?

Can we agree that with the 40 yards negated by Walker stepping out of bounds with NOTHING in front of him except paydirt, the dropped Pass in the End Zone by Crabtree and the 4 drops by Morgan that Smith WOULD have had over 300 in the last game alone?

Oh but I forgot it's Alex's job to run behind the Pass grab the Ball Carrier and throw him over his shoulder and run for the End Zone.

~Ceadder

Exactly. Alex is supposed to play all 11 positions on the offense himself. If he doesn't he's not worthy of being the number one overall pick. Nevermind that against Jacksonville we had 6 dropped passes. Never mind that Delanie Walker scamper out of bounds. None of that's important because Alex Smith didn't play all 11 positions by himself.

Originally posted by Bali-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by djfullshred:

Originally posted by Goldtimer:

Originally posted by susweel:
Yah with some better OL, and better QB

F'n troll get the f out of here. He mentioned this could be scary good with the current starting QB.

dang susweel...now you've made Alex Smith's mom mad, & start cursing at you.

Seriously man its almost comical how some of these dudes get hurt like as if I said something about there family members.


Message to this noob: Chill out if wonna last around here. Getting angry at every person that bashes a player your in love with will shorten your time in the zone.

You mean like the members hanging, or should I say, dangling from their lips?!?!

I think I'm saying, look I will come next year to E Pole, and I will kick the as* of any idiot who thinks he is man enough to call me out in this stupid thread, how is that?

For some people, 49er football is MORE than whining on the internet. I can guaranty you that.

One again; E pole (if you have a clue) Candle Stick Park, next year, in October-November. Come on down and have a bad time you c**t...

Opps, too many gin & tonics, but really, I don't care. Ton-o-wankers on this site. I get a great laugh.. in between drinks..

E Pole, Main Lot, just ask for Soave Loco, underwear man. and the 25year++ fans will point me out. Hey I'm here for you..!

"You sound like yer from LONDON!"

Originally posted by Joecool:
Any team that throws an average of 40 times per game is not going to fare well in the long run. The offense you saw against JAX is not going to be scary.

An offense that can block for Gore AND parts of the offense we saw last week could be scary.

Intimidating offenses don't throw 40 times beacuse then they become predictable.

agreed.. the only time you become an offensive juggernaut just off passing is when you have payton manning back there

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Alex Smith IS playing well but until some of you guys get hit on the head with the playoffs or a 6 TD game you aren't going to see that. That is fine. Now to address your QB's.

Bradford and Alex Smith are very similar in skill set and size so that wouldn't be smart to trade pretty much the same player for a less experienced one now would it? Colt McCoy.... Tim Tebow.... lol

Jake Locker and Clausen could be good down the road. Clausen is more NFL ready. Clausen in my opinion is the best QB in the draft right now but Locker has the most upside.

Either way, we don't need a QB. I know you don't wanna miss out on that franchise QB that will take us to the promised land but you're going to have to. This team is missing 4 pieces and QB is not one of them.

Wow you sound like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, honestly, he's got what 6, 7 picks in 4 starts. I mean hell if we had a decent QB we'd have a winning record now. The Colt game if we had one we win, the Titan game we win, the Bear game we win by 20, the Jag game we win by 30, the Houston game we don't get down by 20 in the first place. Give be a break and be real, for goodness sake, the game at Lambeau is your star witness in the I'm ashamed that that guy is our QB saga. You wanna talk about being outplayed. And we still got decent heat on A-Rod, difference is, Rodgers is gonna be Pro Bowler the rest of his days, Alex well I don't even wanna think about the guy. I defended him to no end. Something finally killed that, he's a lameoid. He has to have the spread to be any kind of QB, what is this college?! This is the NFL, which mean Not For Long (should of been anyways thank you Mike Nolan and Scoty Mac for not getting at least a Garcia in here), he's first overall and A-Rod with no O-line is f'ing lapping him. How do you throw for less than 130 yards, after having the ball handed to you 5 F'ING TIMES!? 10 points at home, vs. one corner and a converted corner who now plays safety. And your still defending this moron, jeez I'm a pretty big Niner fan, but this takes the cake, to blindly defend this lack of NFL QB is a sham, he should be a career back up, the only reason we're 5-6 rite now is cuz of the rest of the talent and the coaching staff. Get off the porch already, yikez.

I hate to interject some reality here but I think we can all agree until the Opposition has an answer for the Spread, we aren't going back to running the IForm as our Base.

SO, with that said Alex has TWO picks and 3 ALMOSTS in basically 2 games of play in the Spread. And 8 TDs. I could care less what he did in the IForm because this team isn't running it constantly anymore. Until they do the TD/INT ratio resulting from that system does NOT apply. So sorry.

~Ceadder

That's a whole nother problem, this is a running smash-mouth football team, which is why a Colt McCoy, hell Trent Dilfer 10 years ago let alone. When Shaun could actually throw the football our team was doing what it does best and we nearly beat the Vikes, before getting Farve'd. Alex, err this team the way it is can win this division, but only cuz it's this division. We aren't going to do what we want ie win a Super Bowl til we get a new QB.

The problem is neither Dilfer(plenty of game film supports this) nor Shaun have or had the ability to stretch the field. You inferring they do and did doesn't make it true.

And Colt McCoy? Am I missing something? Was he drafted? WHy even bring his name up in the conversation if he's still playing COLLEGE ball? I mean shoot why not just bring Steve Young out of moth balls and give him a shot since you're not satisfied with Alex Starting in a Spread Offense.

Just in case you missed it, and evidently you did, Sing STATED that this is not a Power Run team and they decided to try something different. Do you know WHY they AREN'T a Power Run team? I'll give ya the 4-1-1. The Line in it's current format has trouble RUN BLOCKING, but that same Line can keep less Defenders' off the QB in a SPread formation cause the Defense cannot stack the box. If they do they WILL get torched. Look at what Alex and Davis have done already in 8 quarters of Spread Formation. And now Walker is coming on? OMG can you actually imagine that mess if they tried to pin their ears back? Alex would break the single season scoring record in ONE game if they tried.

If would make the Air Coryell Offense look like our Power IForm Offense.

WE(If I may be so bold) get that you hate Smith. Or maybe hate is too strong a verbiage. You don't want to get your hopes up given that this WAS a Power Run team. But you don't have to make outlandish statements to get your point out there. It's not intelligent at all. Okay?

~Ceadder

We aren't a power run team cuz of Alex's stupid behind. Even wit our medicore guards we beat Zona in Zona still beat down Seattle and nearly beat the Vikes with that power run game. But then Hill stopped playing NFL football. Dilfer who cares if he couldn't throw like Flacco, he won games just like Brad Johnson, cuz he converted those 3rd and 5 and etc. when the offense needed em too. If we had a QB like that we'd be in first place and wouldn't be having to come from behind to win this thing. You can't play the way we did in Minnesota if Shaun wasn't playing the way he was, if Alex would of been the QB we would of lost by 20. I mean then the Packer game, I mean this is your star witness, it's over we lost, we choked, we screwed up big time, we picked the wrong guy, we picked Darko over Flash and Melo, our fault. Time to move on admit mistake, it's already too late, cuz we lost last season cuz of JTurnOver throwing away half of last season. The only good thing about the moron is that he can run and he doesn't turn the ball over that often, flip side of that he DOESN'T MAKE ANY CONSISTENT PLAYS EITHER. He had a clear shot to show how he's turned a corner in Green Bay and especially last week, HE COULDN'T EVEN LIGHT UP THE MATHIS-LESS JAGZ, AT OUR PLACE. He's trash he's like a less exciting version of Jake Dellhome cuz he doesn't turn the ball over as much, or doesn't force it. Even when we had Rattay or Dorsey, it wasn't like oh man we choked I mean jeez Aaron Rodgers are you kidding me. Pac-10 vs. WAC. Umm iunno, I was 17 and I knew, after he completed 23 straight at the freaking LA Coliseum I knew he was the best QB coming out he was the guy he should be our guy, and it turned out we went 2-14 and we still picked the wrong guy even though we had a clear shot. And yet since we picked him and even though I knew he wasn't as good I supported him cuz Alex Smith was now my guy my QB, but after the Norv Turner year, and after all the stuff that wasn't his fault and was his fault, I stopped supporting a guy who kept hurting our football team and especially our chances to win. 3 winnable games 3 losses. Hill at least won games and played well before he flamed out, Smith just gosh, I want a Super Bowl let alone a prospect for one, something we won't have till we get at the least a decent QB, let alone a guy like McCoy who just wins. Especially wins big games. Who did Alex beat again? Oh yeah Pittsburgh, and that was before their alleged resurgence. Let alone if Colt wins his next two games, one of those being freaking the greatest college football player ever and one sick defense and a hell of a MLB. And we still don't take him again with a clear shot, then we still have a liability at the biggest position on the field, it's ok if your best player isn't your QB as long as he doesn't hurt your team and makes enough plays. The moron um what is he 2-3? And Cutler and Gore won one of those games, the other the defense and our WR's won. I mean you can't throw for 250 against the f'ing Jagz in that situation, it's not like oh were gonna run 30 times no matter what and throw 25 times, he was the #1 pick and he burn a defense like that. Colt, Sam, Marc Bulger, somebody, let alone somebody freaking else other than the moron.

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Alex Smith IS playing well but until some of you guys get hit on the head with the playoffs or a 6 TD game you aren't going to see that. That is fine. Now to address your QB's.

Bradford and Alex Smith are very similar in skill set and size so that wouldn't be smart to trade pretty much the same player for a less experienced one now would it? Colt McCoy.... Tim Tebow.... lol

Jake Locker and Clausen could be good down the road. Clausen is more NFL ready. Clausen in my opinion is the best QB in the draft right now but Locker has the most upside.

Either way, we don't need a QB. I know you don't wanna miss out on that franchise QB that will take us to the promised land but you're going to have to. This team is missing 4 pieces and QB is not one of them.

Wow you sound like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, honestly, he's got what 6, 7 picks in 4 starts. I mean hell if we had a decent QB we'd have a winning record now. The Colt game if we had one we win, the Titan game we win, the Bear game we win by 20, the Jag game we win by 30, the Houston game we don't get down by 20 in the first place. Give be a break and be real, for goodness sake, the game at Lambeau is your star witness in the I'm ashamed that that guy is our QB saga. You wanna talk about being outplayed. And we still got decent heat on A-Rod, difference is, Rodgers is gonna be Pro Bowler the rest of his days, Alex well I don't even wanna think about the guy. I defended him to no end. Something finally killed that, he's a lameoid. He has to have the spread to be any kind of QB, what is this college?! This is the NFL, which mean Not For Long (should of been anyways thank you Mike Nolan and Scoty Mac for not getting at least a Garcia in here), he's first overall and A-Rod with no O-line is f'ing lapping him. How do you throw for less than 130 yards, after having the ball handed to you 5 F'ING TIMES!? 10 points at home, vs. one corner and a converted corner who now plays safety. And your still defending this moron, jeez I'm a pretty big Niner fan, but this takes the cake, to blindly defend this lack of NFL QB is a sham, he should be a career back up, the only reason we're 5-6 rite now is cuz of the rest of the talent and the coaching staff. Get off the porch already, yikez.

I hate to interject some reality here but I think we can all agree until the Opposition has an answer for the Spread, we aren't going back to running the IForm as our Base.

SO, with that said Alex has TWO picks and 3 ALMOSTS in basically 2 games of play in the Spread. And 8 TDs. I could care less what he did in the IForm because this team isn't running it constantly anymore. Until they do the TD/INT ratio resulting from that system does NOT apply. So sorry.

~Ceadder

That's a whole nother problem, this is a running smash-mouth football team, which is why a Colt McCoy, hell Trent Dilfer 10 years ago let alone. When Shaun could actually throw the football our team was doing what it does best and we nearly beat the Vikes, before getting Farve'd. Alex, err this team the way it is can win this division, but only cuz it's this division. We aren't going to do what we want ie win a Super Bowl til we get a new QB.

The problem is neither Dilfer(plenty of game film supports this) nor Shaun have or had the ability to stretch the field. You inferring they do and did doesn't make it true.

And Colt McCoy? Am I missing something? Was he drafted? WHy even bring his name up in the conversation if he's still playing COLLEGE ball? I mean shoot why not just bring Steve Young out of moth balls and give him a shot since you're not satisfied with Alex Starting in a Spread Offense.

Just in case you missed it, and evidently you did, Sing STATED that this is not a Power Run team and they decided to try something different. Do you know WHY they AREN'T a Power Run team? I'll give ya the 4-1-1. The Line in it's current format has trouble RUN BLOCKING, but that same Line can keep less Defenders' off the QB in a SPread formation cause the Defense cannot stack the box. If they do they WILL get torched. Look at what Alex and Davis have done already in 8 quarters of Spread Formation. And now Walker is coming on? OMG can you actually imagine that mess if they tried to pin their ears back? Alex would break the single season scoring record in ONE game if they tried.

If would make the Air Coryell Offense look like our Power IForm Offense.

WE(If I may be so bold) get that you hate Smith. Or maybe hate is too strong a verbiage. You don't want to get your hopes up given that this WAS a Power Run team. But you don't have to make outlandish statements to get your point out there. It's not intelligent at all. Okay?

~Ceadder

We aren't a power run team cuz of Alex's stupid behind. Even wit our medicore guards we beat Zona in Zona still beat down Seattle and nearly beat the Vikes with that power run game. But then Hill stopped playing NFL football. Dilfer who cares if he couldn't throw like Flacco, he won games just like Brad Johnson, cuz he converted those 3rd and 5 and etc. when the offense needed em too. If we had a QB like that we'd be in first place and wouldn't be having to come from behind to win this thing. You can't play the way we did in Minnesota if Shaun wasn't playing the way he was, if Alex would of been the QB we would of lost by 20. I mean then the Packer game, I mean this is your star witness, it's over we lost, we choked, we screwed up big time, we picked the wrong guy, we picked Darko over Flash and Melo, our fault. Time to move on admit mistake, it's already too late, cuz we lost last season cuz of JTurnOver throwing away half of last season. The only good thing about the moron is that he can run and he doesn't turn the ball over that often, flip side of that he DOESN'T MAKE ANY CONSISTENT PLAYS EITHER. He had a clear shot to show how he's turned a corner in Green Bay and especially last week, HE COULDN'T EVEN LIGHT UP THE MATHIS-LESS JAGZ, AT OUR PLACE. He's trash he's like a less exciting version of Jake Dellhome cuz he doesn't turn the ball over as much, or doesn't force it. Even when we had Rattay or Dorsey, it wasn't like oh man we choked I mean jeez Aaron Rodgers are you kidding me. Pac-10 vs. WAC. Umm iunno, I was 17 and I knew, after he completed 23 straight at the freaking LA Coliseum I knew he was the best QB coming out he was the guy he should be our guy, and it turned out we went 2-14 and we still picked the wrong guy even though we had a clear shot. And yet since we picked him and even though I knew he wasn't as good I supported him cuz Alex Smith was now my guy my QB, but after the Norv Turner year, and after all the stuff that wasn't his fault and was his fault, I stopped supporting a guy who kept hurting our football team and especially our chances to win. 3 winnable games 3 losses. Hill at least won games and played well before he flamed out, Smith just gosh, I want a Super Bowl let alone a prospect for one, something we won't have till we get at the least a decent QB, let alone a guy like McCoy who just wins. Especially wins big games. Who did Alex beat again? Oh yeah Pittsburgh, and that was before their alleged resurgence. Let alone if Colt wins his next two games, one of those being freaking the greatest college football player ever and one sick defense and a hell of a MLB. And we still don't take him again with a clear shot, then we still have a liability at the biggest position on the field, it's ok if your best player isn't your QB as long as he doesn't hurt your team and makes enough plays. The moron um what is he 2-3? And Cutler and Gore won one of those games, the other the defense and our WR's won. I mean you can't throw for 250 against the f'ing Jagz in that situation, it's not like oh were gonna run 30 times no matter what and throw 25 times, he was the #1 pick and he burn a defense like that. Colt, Sam, Marc Bulger, somebody, let alone somebody freaking else other than the moron.

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Spoonerism:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Yeah if we had a QB, hopefully Colt is in our grasp next April.

lol i got bad news for you buddy. we arent drafting colt mccoy. know why? because first off, he isnt an NFL type QB. he probably wont succeed in the NFL game. and 2nd, you might not like alex smith, but the 49ers organization really likes him right now.

hes playing well, hes showing signs of drastic improvement, and for CHEAP. they already had to pay him out a huge amount, but now he makes next to nothing, and is playing well. we arent going to draft another 1st/2nd round QB that will command more money than smith already makes.

we arent drafting a QB next year. thats become clear now. Smith could be in line to be comeback player of the year. i think our front office and coaching staff is very pleased about this. lets go get some OL, S, and maybe someone to replace Franklin at NT when he leaves.

Alex Smith is playing well, ha that's not funny, I almost said it was, but it's not, the guy is a moron. He's like Louis from Charlie Brown, he needs his blanket, ie the spread f'ing offense. Drastic improvement course its drastic, he was playing beyond awful, now he's just playing awful to average. Colt wins football games, people said the same BS about Joe Cool, no arm, he's to small pssh. Watch last years Fiesta Bowl drive if you need a reminder. Especially since that game rings something similar to Joe's Cotton Bowl game way back when (minus the hypothermia of course). We don't have a QB on the roster to get it done, ie do what we do best win Super Bowls. If Colt is there, or Sam is there in the 2nd round for example, ie if we have a clear shot at one of those guys, we better take em. I don't wanna miss out on QB again, I mean the Packer game close the door on that lack of an argument, for good, we choked, Scot choked, we had our shot at the franchise QB and we choked, we shouldn't choke again, especially since unlike that '05 Draft there's more than one franchise QB at least it looks that way.

Alex Smith IS playing well but until some of you guys get hit on the head with the playoffs or a 6 TD game you aren't going to see that. That is fine. Now to address your QB's.

Bradford and Alex Smith are very similar in skill set and size so that wouldn't be smart to trade pretty much the same player for a less experienced one now would it? Colt McCoy.... Tim Tebow.... lol

Jake Locker and Clausen could be good down the road. Clausen is more NFL ready. Clausen in my opinion is the best QB in the draft right now but Locker has the most upside.

Either way, we don't need a QB. I know you don't wanna miss out on that franchise QB that will take us to the promised land but you're going to have to. This team is missing 4 pieces and QB is not one of them.

Wow you sound like a Laker fan defending Vuajic, honestly, he's got what 6, 7 picks in 4 starts. I mean hell if we had a decent QB we'd have a winning record now. The Colt game if we had one we win, the Titan game we win, the Bear game we win by 20, the Jag game we win by 30, the Houston game we don't get down by 20 in the first place. Give be a break and be real, for goodness sake, the game at Lambeau is your star witness in the I'm ashamed that that guy is our QB saga. You wanna talk about being outplayed. And we still got decent heat on A-Rod, difference is, Rodgers is gonna be Pro Bowler the rest of his days, Alex well I don't even wanna think about the guy. I defended him to no end. Something finally killed that, he's a lameoid. He has to have the spread to be any kind of QB, what is this college?! This is the NFL, which mean Not For Long (should of been anyways thank you Mike Nolan and Scoty Mac for not getting at least a Garcia in here), he's first overall and A-Rod with no O-line is f'ing lapping him. How do you throw for less than 130 yards, after having the ball handed to you 5 F'ING TIMES!? 10 points at home, vs. one corner and a converted corner who now plays safety. And your still defending this moron, jeez I'm a pretty big Niner fan, but this takes the cake, to blindly defend this lack of NFL QB is a sham, he should be a career back up, the only reason we're 5-6 rite now is cuz of the rest of the talent and the coaching staff. Get off the porch already, yikez.

I hate to interject some reality here but I think we can all agree until the Opposition has an answer for the Spread, we aren't going back to running the IForm as our Base.

SO, with that said Alex has TWO picks and 3 ALMOSTS in basically 2 games of play in the Spread. And 8 TDs. I could care less what he did in the IForm because this team isn't running it constantly anymore. Until they do the TD/INT ratio resulting from that system does NOT apply. So sorry.

~Ceadder

That's a whole nother problem, this is a running smash-mouth football team, which is why a Colt McCoy, hell Trent Dilfer 10 years ago let alone. When Shaun could actually throw the football our team was doing what it does best and we nearly beat the Vikes, before getting Farve'd. Alex, err this team the way it is can win this division, but only cuz it's this division. We aren't going to do what we want ie win a Super Bowl til we get a new QB.

This is NOT a running smash-mouth football team. Our identity of that is what lost us most of our games. This is a PASS BALANCED football team. We do not have the personnel to be that kind of team and I don't see us trying to be that team even next year. We have too much talent on the outside to limit ourselves to smash mouth football.

Say what you want but we DO NOT need a new QB. I'm glad you aren't running the team.

Ya cuz if I was we'd have Deanaglo instead of Man-Law and A-Rod over Alex. Oh wait we'd be miles ahead of what we are now, errrrrrrrr. Alex over A-Rod 4 years later and it still makes me want to blow my head off, how does a franchise like this make a decision like that? Come on! And balance is one thing, but Hill proved (when he could still throw) as long as the QB is decent, we could run the ball 20 plus every game wit Gore or Coffee and be a winning football team. You can't beat Zona in Zona and basically beat the Vikes at the Met and have Alex Smith or Jake Delhomme under center, you can have a decent QB who moves the ball down the field when you need him too, like we had before Hill burnt out. And the more we go away from Gore either in the run or pass game the more it's gonna kill is in the long run, for a variety of reasons. If we had a QB who could consistently complete passes we could still run maybe not as much as we originally wanted to, but still enough to play some sort of smash mouth football. Hell when we had a QB of some sort that's what we did and we did a decent enough job of it.