Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by ZRF80:
You can defend Smith all you want, but the one thing you cant debate is that we have definitely (as fans + coaches) gone to extraordinary measures to accomodate Smith, whether it was finding decent OCs, signing free agents to huge contracts, giving him the offense he needs, etc. I just find it a little too much, especially since the dividends have been very poor, to say the least.
When Givens and Branch left NE did the Pats not invest a high 2nd in Chad Jackson ? Trade a 2nd for Wes Welker and then trade for Randy Moss ?
What about the Colts investing a 1st round pick in Anthony Gonzalez when they had Harrison, Wayne and Clark ?
Seems they took measures to accommodate their QB's and cater to their strengths. Both teams also had the luxury of having very good OC's (Weis and Moore) who were able to mentor their offensive staffs so they could promote from within (Mcdaniels and now BB is working with Bill O'Brien albeit the Pats have no OC, while the Colts had Christensen who has been an OC). Both teams also have great OL coaches (Mudd & Scarnecchia). We haven't had those luxuries with our staff and haven't had OC's here long enough to help mentor the coaches we have to our offensive system.
Point in case good teams play to their QB's strengths and cater to them as opposed to trying to make their QB fit what they want to do.
Need further proof.....Big Ben and Pittsburgh's smash mouth style opened up more under Tomlin when Arians and Ben decided to open up the passing game....since the Steelers have drafted Holmes & Sweed to continue to try and improve the weapons for their passing game.Again another team that had the luxury of promoting the new OC from within.
The one thing we never did was give Smith or this offense the weapons it needed for a chance at a successful passing game outside of a WR with a troubled past in Antonio Bryant and a WR who appeared on his downside and couldn't catch a cold let alone a pass (Jackson). We never invested 1st day picks or to our knowledge went after higher profile WR's through FA or the draft (Dwayne Bowe was a plan B). Instead we give Sullivan water and expect him to be Jesus and turn it into wine. We have invested much in the OL and coupled with poor coaching never got much if anything out of it.
Your so f**king ignorant and you choose to be blind to the actual facts it's absurd.
Antonio Bryant and DJax were both successful receivers before they came to SF. And on that note, so was A. Lelie. Does it suck that we never signed a TO or Randy Moss type player for Alex Smith ? Sure. But he got his shot with good dependable receivers, WITH Gore and VD playing out of the backfield for him.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe Smith's deficiencies may have prevented any of those receivers to have successful stints in SF ? Im sure when Antonio Bryant called him out, you were probably first in line to label him a "hater"; and when Nolan felt apologetic for giving up too soon on Bryant, you probably felt Nolan was a "retard" as well.
The fact that you have to resort to petty name calling shows the inadequacies of your posts. I usually wait until you post at least 10 times in a given thread before I respond. I'll do the same after 10 more.
Man you are just running yourself into the ground, it is sad how you carry on with this nonsense, and that is just what this is is complete nonsense. Smith is the starter, get over it and move on.