Originally posted by ZRF80:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Be honest.......cause even the Smith supporters know that you cannot "teach" a QB to be great. Alex may become very effective, but he will never be like a Joe Montana/Steve Young mold.
Ken Anderson disagrees with you. Anderson on Bill Walsh :
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"When I first came into the league, he was the first guy I worked with. ... He took a kid from Augustana College and made him into an NFL quarterback."
Steve Young on BW :
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"Bill was blessed with one of the greatest gifts you can have which is the ability to see the future potential of another human being." "Bill was blessed with one of the greatest gifts you can have which is the ability to see the future potential of another human being."
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"He saw in me much more than I ever saw in myself well before I ever had a chance to understand it. That is the ultimate compliment to the word coach. There’s nothing more a coach should be than to see the full potential of a player unfolded. I am eternally grateful to Bill Walsh."
Mike Shanahan :
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Great coaches are great teachers, people who enjoy teaching. It doesn't matter what level it was on. I don't care if he was teaching high school kids, quarterbacks, three- to five-step drops, college kids, pro kids, he enjoyed it. He was very good at it, very smart. I guess the best way to describe it is he just had passion for everything he did. And that's one of the reasons he was so successful
Urban Meyer on AS :
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"It's going to be interesting in San Francisco," Meyer said. "Alex is an extremely quick learner. However, he's a guy that, until he understands it, he is nonfunctional. He is a guy that -- I keep hearing how Brett Favre kind of makes something out of nothing and is a person that runs around to make a play -- Alex Smith is not that kind of player. Alex Smith is a person that, once he is taught, has to learn it all. He might struggle early, but once he gets it, he gets it."
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"I'm going to be anxious to watch his development with the 49ers. Alex is so careful with the ball. His touchdown-to-interception ratio the last 2 years was phenomenal (47 touchdowns and seven interceptions). That's because, unless he knows exactly what's going on, he won't throw it. He won't just try to guess and take a shot. He has to know.
"That's why, early in his career, and early in our career with him at Utah, he was not an effective passer, because he really didn't understand. Once he understood, there was no one better. He learns quickly, though. But he's not a guy that you throw the ball out there and tell him, 'Go play.' He wants to know what is exactly expected of him and then he becomes a dynamite player.'
As evidenced Alex can be taught to be great, he just needs the right teacher/s and supporting cast *cough*OL*cough*. I am far from an Alex Smith supporter but I am not a hater either. If he succeeds more power to us and he has all the tools to do so, but your hatred of him is beyond ridiculous. You go above and beyond to try and prove non existent facts. You make outlandish and ridiculous claims without providing any real evidence to support such nonsense. I too can be a successful s**t talker if I let my ass cheeks do the talking and my mouth do the walking.
In the future it'd be greatly appreciated if you refrained from trolling this board with your hate spewed threads aimed at the coaches and Alex Smith. Half get locked and the other half should be. Try using the search function instead of being an attention whore and posting your same old tired BS. There are already threads discussing whatever crap that you are trying to spew. This team is far from a serious contender but a lot better than the 1-15 team you believed us to be.
Just because you are a successful franchise owner on Madden with your Mike Shanahan coached team with Tom Brady at QB does not mean that my Mike Nolan led 49ers Madden team led by Brad Johnson (only because Alex and Shaun suffered season ending injuries) couldn't whoop yours every day of the week.
You might as well jump ship to the Saints while the getting is good because that train is boarding and will soon be leaving the station for the SB and I'd hate for you to miss out.
So lets say Alex gets real comfortable with Raye's system. I'll take it even further. Imagine if Smith executes it to perfection, wins the MVP, and has a passer rating over 100 in 2010. And then, Raye gets a head coaching gig, leaves San Fran........and we end up getting a new OC with a different philosophy.
So I guess we should take Meyer's words literally.........go back to square 1, and teach Smith how to be a quarterback all over again.
GOOD PLAYERS learn to ADAPT. Alex Smith has failed miserably for 5 years (2 as starter). Finally............after 2+ seasons under center, we had to find an offense tailored for him, and in that sense..........probably eliminate the effectiveness of Frank Gore (see Steve Young article). And all this for a guy that we'll probably have to give another year + to learn a new scheme of Raye leaves.
Alex Smith doesnt have "it". And thats why I refer to him as a Brad Johnson at max potential. He's a pure system QB; he needs instructions for each and every play on how to drop back, who to look for, and where to throw it. Very rarely will you see him improvise, and when he does.....chances are he's gonna screw up.
With better talent at WR (namely Antonio Bryant) under Norv Turner and time to throw the ball Smith took a step forward in his progression. Norv left, the OL regressed and the talent at WR was subpar. Smith also regressed. Hostler comes in, is in over his head....no matter who is under center or playing on the line or at WR won't help ANY QB. Hostler was not ready for the job, everyone regressed. Martz comes in, Smith is still not back to 100% and cannot wrestle the job from his competition.
Raye comes in, the OL is still a giant ? and with Crabtree in the fold and looking promising and VD finally playing better Smith is taking a step forward once again since he was given the chance (after Shaun Hill showed he was limited in what he could do).
Now imagine with a better OL and better playcalling Smith
could continue to take steps forward....while could is the key word he has definitely earned that chance as of right now. The rest of the season is a continued evaluation of that situation as well as whether or not we have the right OC for the job.
What system do you think we should be playing right now ? One that fits to Gore's strengths ? The one Sing and Raye have tried to play and show how miserably it failed because we lack the talent in the trenches to make it work ? We are playing to a system that not only fits Alex but also the rest of the offense minus the HB's we have on this roster safe for MRob who could and should be used a bit more in this spread system. Funny how you knock him for playing in this "tailor made offense" now despite that even the players want the spread because they realize it gives them the best chance to move the ball up and down the field, score points and win games.
You can knock the 5 OC's and injuries all you want, but even Mike Martz acknowledged the adverse impact that has had on him. You can continue to be ignorant to those facts but it does not change the reality of it. Not every player develops at the same speed, Terry Bradshaw is a prime example.
I don't even think you know what "it" is.....you simply throw the term around loosely hoping none of the educated posters call you on "it". Well your being called on "it".
At the end of the day the kid has the talent, he just needs the teaching and supporting cast so that he can try to put it all together. Thus far he has some of that cast and the coaching staff realizes that given the talent we have puts everyone on offense basically in a position to succeed and Alex has done a decent job despite some poor playcalling and piss poor protection from a beat up and lackluster OL. I for one would like to see how he fares with a stronger OL and a stronger playcaller.