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Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Chila Rachel seems like the biggest p***y ever..she sure plays like one too

He's from Compton. He could probably kick the s**t out of you.

But if you say he's a p***y...

and I'm from Richmond, Compton isn't even a top 10 dangerous city anymore. WTF does that have to do with anything?

Doesn't change the fact that he's played like a p***y this year.
[ Edited by BirdmanJr on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM ]
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Chila Rachel seems like the biggest p***y ever..she sure plays like one too

He's from Compton. He could probably kick the s**t out of you.

But if you say he's a p***y...

and I'm from Richmond, Compton isn't even a top 10 dangerous city anymore. WTF does that have to do with anything?

Doesn't change the fact that he's played like a p***y this year.



Tyson Chandler is from Compton and is soft as cotton. Chilo Rachal is soft.
Your QB is your leader in most cases. And I'll just leave it at that...
we need someone to step up before 2012
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Chila Rachel seems like the biggest p***y ever..she sure plays like one too

He's from Compton. He could probably kick the s**t out of you.

But if you say he's a p***y...

and I'm from Richmond, Compton isn't even a top 10 dangerous city anymore. WTF does that have to do with anything?

Doesn't change the fact that he's played like a p***y this year.



Tyson Chandler is from Compton and is soft as cotton. Chilo Rachal is soft.

Because you are calling another man a p***y based on his play in a sport. That's sad dude.
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Chila Rachel seems like the biggest p***y ever..she sure plays like one too

He's from Compton. He could probably kick the s**t out of you.

But if you say he's a p***y...

and I'm from Richmond, Compton isn't even a top 10 dangerous city anymore. WTF does that have to do with anything?

Doesn't change the fact that he's played like a p***y this year.



Tyson Chandler is from Compton and is soft as cotton. Chilo Rachal is soft.

Because you are calling another man a p***y based on his play in a sport. That's sad dude.

Alright I should have worded it differently, he's PLAYED like a p***y this year.
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Chila Rachel seems like the biggest p***y ever..she sure plays like one too

He's from Compton. He could probably kick the s**t out of you.

But if you say he's a p***y...

and I'm from Richmond, Compton isn't even a top 10 dangerous city anymore. WTF does that have to do with anything?

Doesn't change the fact that he's played like a p***y this year.



Tyson Chandler is from Compton and is soft as cotton. Chilo Rachal is soft.

Charmin Rachel
  • kem99
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by kem99:
Just curious...where exactly has the lack of a "vocal" leader cost the 49ers a win?

Would a vocal leader have really made the OL block better or the DL get a better pass rush?

Not saying the team doesn't need more leaders but its not like we have heard any reports of someone dogging it or not playing hard. If anything, you've seen the opposite. With the exception of the Atlanta game, every game they've lost has been decided by 7 points or less and the 49ers have continued to play hard and made each game interesting at the end. Even in the Atlanta game, they fought back from 14-0 to 14-10 and had the ball at the Atlanta 30 yard line about half-way through the 2nd Quarter before it all fell apart.


For example last week in GB. The players on offense were saying that were waiting on someone to make a play. Dont you think if we had some vocal leaders they would have gotten them together and said lets go do this. Given on offense the leadership MUST come from the QB, but we all know Alex is not confident and gets shaken easily.

Okay...but if that was all it took and there are no leaders, then how do you explain the 2nd half?

I'm going to give Alex a pass at the moment given that he is just trying to resurrect his career at this point but it begs the question: Was Montana a vocal leader? I don't think so. Young was more of a vocal leader than Montana was.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
what ever... T.O. was on this team, and told it like it is.....he was basically saying THE EXACT SAME THINGS we fans were posting/complain about here at the Zone back in 1999-2003....but was crucified by the local media and most of the fans here turned their back on him and still talk sh1t....

believe it or not he was/is a vocal leader.......most believe that back in the Giants vs 9ers playoff game where we were getting blown out that it was all Garcia that brought us back....but if you watch the game again, pay attention to Jeff's demeanor on the sidelines.....Jeff had is head down for most of the first half......even when T.O. was talking to him, trying to pump him up.....it was stated after the game that T.O. spoke up in the locker room at half time to try to rally everyone...... Jeff played great in the come back but he sure didn't give me no hope watching him sulk it up on the sidelines in the first half...I still believe T.O. played a big part in that game....play making and as a leader.

there are alot of things that come with a vocal leader...you have some who are just loud talkers and you have some that REALLY believe in what they say and emotions come along with them, good and bad.

Wow. Revisionist history there on just dismissing/overlooking how destructive TO was to the team.
Originally posted by jerryricefan80:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
what ever... T.O. was on this team, and told it like it is.....he was basically saying THE EXACT SAME THINGS we fans were posting/complain about here at the Zone back in 1999-2003....but was crucified by the local media and most of the fans here turned their back on him and still talk sh1t....

believe it or not he was/is a vocal leader.......most believe that back in the Giants vs 9ers playoff game where we were getting blown out that it was all Garcia that brought us back....but if you watch the game again, pay attention to Jeff's demeanor on the sidelines.....Jeff had is head down for most of the first half......even when T.O. was talking to him, trying to pump him up.....it was stated after the game that T.O. spoke up in the locker room at half time to try to rally everyone...... Jeff played great in the come back but he sure didn't give me no hope watching him sulk it up on the sidelines in the first half...I still believe T.O. played a big part in that game....play making and as a leader.

there are alot of things that come with a vocal leader...you have some who are just loud talkers and you have some that REALLY believe in what they say and emotions come along with them, good and bad.

Yeah I disagree. TO is and always will be a cancer to a team. And he has proved that as he has been shipped around the league and is now sitting on a crappy team in a small market. I like Chad Ochocinco's style better. Or Ray Lewis.

TO is going the way of Allen Iverson in the NBA...talented but undesirable to have on a team. His track record speaks for itslef that he is a "me" player & not a team player.
Originally posted by kem99:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by kem99:
Just curious...where exactly has the lack of a "vocal" leader cost the 49ers a win?

Would a vocal leader have really made the OL block better or the DL get a better pass rush?

Not saying the team doesn't need more leaders but its not like we have heard any reports of someone dogging it or not playing hard. If anything, you've seen the opposite. With the exception of the Atlanta game, every game they've lost has been decided by 7 points or less and the 49ers have continued to play hard and made each game interesting at the end. Even in the Atlanta game, they fought back from 14-0 to 14-10 and had the ball at the Atlanta 30 yard line about half-way through the 2nd Quarter before it all fell apart.


For example last week in GB. The players on offense were saying that were waiting on someone to make a play. Dont you think if we had some vocal leaders they would have gotten them together and said lets go do this. Given on offense the leadership MUST come from the QB, but we all know Alex is not confident and gets shaken easily.

Okay...but if that was all it took and there are no leaders, then how do you explain the 2nd half?

I'm going to give Alex a pass at the moment given that he is just trying to resurrect his career at this point but it begs the question: Was Montana a vocal leader? I don't think so. Young was more of a vocal leader than Montana was.

Montana certainly wasn't vocal. Quit guy that joked around a lot. Didn't yet much etc. of course none of that matter as we had hall of framers at pretty much every position on the team during the 1980s.
  • el_hektor
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WHAT ABOUT TAKEO??!
smallhands isnt a leader, just because
Originally posted by kem99:
Just curious...where exactly has the lack of a "vocal" leader cost the 49ers a win?

Would a vocal leader have really made the OL block better or the DL get a better pass rush?

Not saying the team doesn't need more leaders but its not like we have heard any reports of someone dogging it or not playing hard. If anything, you've seen the opposite. With the exception of the Atlanta game, every game they've lost has been decided by 7 points or less and the 49ers have continued to play hard and made each game interesting at the end. Even in the Atlanta game, they fought back from 14-0 to 14-10 and had the ball at the Atlanta 30 yard line about half-way through the 2nd Quarter before it all fell apart.


I would say Houston and Green Bay are prime example. We came out flat and uninspired, some of which can be put on Singletary, but I think if we had some leaders with a bit of red-ass in them we wouldn't see that.
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RJF was vocal when he was drafted but he never plays...