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Players are turning against Sing... and they should

  • Mex49
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Originally posted by jaghetersofie:
Originally posted by Mex49:
Originally posted by jaghetersofie:
I disagree that they are turning on Sing. I think they are turning on Jimmy Raye, as is Sing.

You mean Raye has gone rogue, off the reservation, secretly gameplanning all by himself?

Now say that with a straight face because I cant

I never said that. Singletary isn't the one calling the plays on offense and admittedly doesn't know a whole lot about offense. Do you really think that Singletary is calling the plays? I think he hired Jimmy Raye because he trusted what he could do with the offense and now he's losing his trust in his play-calling ability. At half-time it seems as though Sing has gone to Jimmy Raye and said "we need to change something." It shouldn't take that long to change things up but once it did change, the offense moved the chains and scored.

When Norv Turner was the OC, was Mike Nolan responsible for the offense's success? Last year, was Nolan or Singletary responsible for the offenses success? No, it was the OC, the one who the defensive-minded Head Coach entrusted with the offensive play-calling responsibilities.

So now your telling me Singletary is not in control of HIS team and coaches?
They have headphones and microphones all game long, how hard is it to say SPREAD THE f**kING BALL OR YOU ARE FIRED after the first 3 and out
I can guarantee you that we come out with the spread from the very first play next week. If not Sing can and should be fired. If you have the opportunity to score points then you do it. If you handicap the team from scoring points then you have to go. This is twice now that Alex has thrown 3 tds in a half when allowed too. The writing is on the wall and if you cant read it then you are blind!
Originally posted by MadMartz:
I can guarantee you that we come out with the spread from the very first play next week. If not Sing can and should be fired. If you have the opportunity to score points then you do it. If you handicap the team from scoring points then you have to go. This is twice now that Alex has thrown 3 tds in a half when allowed too. The writing is on the wall and if you cant read it then you are blind!
I think "turning against" is too strong. I feel they are getting tired of the BS pep rallies. Dinosauers were the biggest and the baddest on the planet - they died cause they couldn't adapt. Sing either adapts or he totally fails.
Originally posted by MadMartz:
I can guarantee you that we come out with the spread from the very first play next week. If not Sing can and should be fired. If you have the opportunity to score points then you do it. If you handicap the team from scoring points then you have to go. This is twice now that Alex has thrown 3 tds in a half when allowed too. The writing is on the wall and if you cant read it then you are blind!


To little to late, the fact it took Sing and Raye this long to figure it out (thats assuming they even do) it cost us the season
  • pd24
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They should. He said we are smashmouth, but was too scared to smash out less than 1 yard and kicked a FG in the 1st half and set the tone for the game. A QB sneak gets that inch or 2 all the time. Even when it was 3rd down we hand the ball off to a guy that has like 5 carries all year.
Originally posted by MadMartz:
I can guarantee you that we come out with the spread from the very first play next week. If not Sing can and should be fired. If you have the opportunity to score points then you do it. If you handicap the team from scoring points then you have to go. This is twice now that Alex has thrown 3 tds in a half when allowed too. The writing is on the wall and if you cant read it then you are blind!

As i said in another thread, if we come out in an I-formation on 1st and 10, i'm gonna flip.

-9fA
  • mayo49
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If they don't use some type of spread formation it must mean they don't want to win. What the hell is there to lose? The season is already over. See what we can do with the spread and then go with it in the off season.
If they don't change something this week then we might lose every other game this year. If the coaching staff can't see that our offense is only productive in this spread style then we're done for. I think the reason they hired raye is they knew Shaun hill has a noodle arm and he was going to be our qb this season. I hate losing!
At 4-6, it is quite clear that Singletary/Raye duo have lost track and focus. We will most likely finish 7-9, and most of this coaching staff will be given one more year to improve or screw up.
That leaves us, fans, in the wind for the next two seasons.
It's simply sad.
Originally posted by Method:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by jaghetersofie:
I disagree that they are turning on Sing. I think they are turning on Jimmy Raye, as is Sing.

What game did you watch?

They turned on him the VERY moment that we couldn't get that inch.

ONE FREAKIN INCH. That was the tale of the 1st half. After that we didn't get another friggin point.

If THAT isn't turning on your HC, then I seriously do not know what it is.

~Ceadder

Still can't believe he went for the FG on 4th and inches. UGH. So painful.

Oh come now. We couldn't get one inch in that first half. Do you honestly think we would have gotten one YARD?

I think if we had to run that down over in the 2nd half we would have gotten it 10 out of 10 times.

But if we tried to run that same down 10 times we would have gotten stuffed 100 times. And NO the last part is not a typo or over exaggeration. No imagination has stopped all out offensives in War as well as Football.

~Ceadder
  • Mex49
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Originally posted by 49ersking:
At 4-6, it is quite clear that Singletary/Raye duo have lost track and focus. We will most likely finish 7-9, and most of this coaching staff will be given one more year to improve or screw up.
That leaves us, fans, in the wind for the next two seasons.
It's simply sad.

It is criminal!!!!!
The blame is equally shared between the HC and OC.

Blame Raye for this: banging our heads against a brick wall in the first half with predictable playcalling. Not going to the spread sooner.

Blame Sing for this: not forcing raye to change the game plan sooner. Allowing the bland playcalling to continue.

Jimmy Raye has been coaching in the NFL for 137 years. You can't tell me he doesn't know how to run a spread offense if he wants to. Either he is too stubborn to change, or isn't being given the freedom to do so.

Singletary is no idiot. He knows what's going on. Either he is too bull headed to commit to the spread, or he is a puppet on a string dangling just a little higher than raye.

the same goes for both. Either they are too stubborn or they don't have the authority to make the changes.

It starts in practice. They need to practice the spread more if that is what they intend to run.
  • jaghetersofie
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Originally posted by Mex49:
Originally posted by jaghetersofie:
Originally posted by Mex49:
Originally posted by jaghetersofie:
I disagree that they are turning on Sing. I think they are turning on Jimmy Raye, as is Sing.

You mean Raye has gone rogue, off the reservation, secretly gameplanning all by himself?

Now say that with a straight face because I cant

I never said that. Singletary isn't the one calling the plays on offense and admittedly doesn't know a whole lot about offense. Do you really think that Singletary is calling the plays? I think he hired Jimmy Raye because he trusted what he could do with the offense and now he's losing his trust in his play-calling ability. At half-time it seems as though Sing has gone to Jimmy Raye and said "we need to change something." It shouldn't take that long to change things up but once it did change, the offense moved the chains and scored.

When Norv Turner was the OC, was Mike Nolan responsible for the offense's success? Last year, was Nolan or Singletary responsible for the offenses success? No, it was the OC, the one who the defensive-minded Head Coach entrusted with the offensive play-calling responsibilities.

So now your telling me Singletary is not in control of HIS team and coaches?
They have headphones and microphones all game long, how hard is it to say SPREAD THE f**kING BALL OR YOU ARE FIRED after the first 3 and out

They did in the second half and it worked. Now if they continue to run the spread from the outset of the game it will show that Singletary is willing to change.

Remember, this Spread success talk started after the Titans game, then they had a short week and no time to prepare for the Bears. This first half was such a huge disappointment because they didn't go to the spread early. Raye said he changed his philosophy on what to do on Sunday after seeing the Packers beat the Cowboys. Raye got nervous that they would burn Alex Smith and the offense would lose the game for the defense. Once it became apparent that the offense had already lost the game they moved to the Spread.

Give Sing another week to see if he changes things since that's been something he's shown he will do when things aren't working.

I want to make it clear, Singletary is at fault if they continue to run this bland base offense next week but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for one more week.
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by jaghetersofie:
I disagree that they are turning on Sing. I think they are turning on Jimmy Raye, as is Sing.

To me, they're both equally accountable for the philosophical smash mouth BS.

-9fA