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Vernon Davis

Originally posted by SportsFan:
If Vernon flip flops again I will lose my patience with him. He said he was coming to mandatory mini-camp. Then didn't. Then he said he will report to TC. Now he is thinking about not showing? Seems that he isn't the one calling the shots.


Of course he is not calling the shots. Do you think it was HIS idea to start the whole "brand" non-sense? Who could possibly come up with an idea as stupid as that on their own?

He is getting advice by people who are following what they believe to be successful "business" formula's, but they don't realize just how incredibly out of touch with modern day salary cap era sports management they are. Not only this, but they don't seem to understand how our new front office operates.

Just as the US has a policy to not negotiate with terrorists, our front office is smart enough to realize how important it is to likewise not negotiate with players holding out. All it does is encourage MORE holdouts.

So if we give in to these holdouts, we can only expect ten more players to follow suit as their agents wisely advice them to do the same.
[ Edited by BrianGO on Jul 13, 2014 at 4:48 PM ]
Besides the fact he's trying to renege on a contract he put his signature on, this whole brand nonsense might work for guys the caliber of a Michael Jordan, Montana, Shaq, etc., but when Vernon retires, I suspect his "brand" and stock will be virtually worthless unless he becomes a Superbowl hero, and even then, it's a big maybe. All that BS about providing for his family's future, etc is hard to swallow when you're already making over $5 mil a year and had $23 mil guaranteed. He's already admitted he got a contract making him the highest paid TE in NFL at the time, and is still the 3rd highest, yet doesn't see how that makes him look, clamoring for more! Frankly, he's probably only the 3rd best TE right now anyway, if that. So, his pay is commensurate with his play. What a concept!
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Besides the fact he's trying to renege on a contract he put his signature on, this whole brand nonsense might work for guys the caliber of a Michael Jordan, Montana, Shaq, etc., but when Vernon retires, I suspect his "brand" and stock will be virtually worthless unless he becomes a Superbowl hero, and even then, it's a big maybe. All that BS about providing for his family's future, etc is hard to swallow when you're already making over $5 mil a year and had $23 mil guaranteed. He's already admitted he got a contract making him the highest paid TE in NFL at the time, and is still the 3rd highest, yet doesn't see how that makes him look, clamoring for more! Frankly, he's probably only the 3rd best TE right now anyway, if that. So, his pay is commensurate with his play. What a concept!

agreed, had about enough if he a no show at training camp,i say trade him so he doesn't f**k up the team chemistry with his selfish attitude.
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Besides the fact he's trying to renege on a contract he put his signature on, this whole brand nonsense might work for guys the caliber of a Michael Jordan, Montana, Shaq, etc., but when Vernon retires, I suspect his "brand" and stock will be virtually worthless unless he becomes a Superbowl hero, and even then, it's a big maybe. All that BS about providing for his family's future, etc is hard to swallow when you're already making over $5 mil a year and had $23 mil guaranteed. He's already admitted he got a contract making him the highest paid TE in NFL at the time, and is still the 3rd highest, yet doesn't see how that makes him look, clamoring for more! Frankly, he's probably only the 3rd best TE right now anyway, if that. So, his pay is commensurate with his play. What a concept!

agreed, had about enough if he a no show at training camp,i say trade him so he doesn't f**k up the team chemistry with his selfish attitude.

I agree. Dont give him what he wants, or every player on the team could follow the same path. He signed his deal making him the highest paid TE just 4 years ago. Honor it.
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
I like VD but he was play too well in playoff and chamionship. He is kinda not chamionship.

So he plays well in championship or not well? Do you like anyone on this team or should we just import 53 Sam Bradfords?
Originally posted by AUniner:
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
I like VD but he was play too well in playoff and chamionship. He is kinda not chamionship.

So he plays well in championship or not well? Do you like anyone on this team or should we just import 53 Sam Bradfords?

I dont think he speaks english gooder
100 doll hairs VD doesn't show up
cut him
Originally posted by AUniner:
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
I like VD but he was play too well in playoff and chamionship. He is kinda not chamionship.

So he plays well in championship or not well? Do you like anyone on this team or should we just import 53 Sam Bradfords?




He is play too well at championship. He scared the Seattle defense at chamionship what u saw it. Right?!. He was kinda not chamionship and little scared the tough defense like a Seattle defense. So I wish, Sam Bradford have our team because we have Vance. I think, he look good a beast. Hope he better this season... So tell me what about u?. Ur turn it.?
Originally posted by BuZzB28:
He is play too well at championship. He scared the Seattle defense at chamionship what u saw it. Right?!. He was kinda not chamionship and little scared the tough defense like a Seattle defense. So I wish, Sam Bradford have our team because we have Vance. I think, he look good a beast. Hope he better this season... So tell me what about u?. Ur turn it.?

Vernon didn't play great in the NFCCG. I don't think he played bad either. But he's a difference maker for our team. Without him we didn't have a passing game for 3/4 of the season.

My stance on his contract issue is much the same as re Boone. Go to work, train hard and we will reward him. But it probably won't happen this year.

Maybe it's all just a "GEN Y" problem. Wanting everything now.
dave casper. thats the only other tight end who has 7 playoff tds.
Jimmy Graham just signed a new deal 4 years about 40 million with 21 mill guaranteed. Even though it makes him the highest-paid TE in league history it's still less guaranteed than Vernon got four years ago so he needs to shut the f**k up and just play.
The Jimmy Graham deal probably has everything to do with this waffling. Vernon needs to shut up and show us why he deserves a renegotiation NEXT SEASON.
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
The Jimmy Graham deal probably has everything to do with this waffling. Vernon needs to shut up and show us why he deserves a renegotiation NEXT SEASON.

Vernon may be used more as a WR than any TE in the league...or has that potential. I can see why it irks him that he will likely make less than Crabtree, after Crabtree resigns. It may be that VD is more valuable to the niners than any other skill position player other than Kaepernick. Gore is aging and has really good replacement, Crabtree, Boldin and Johnson are all very good but are they special? VD does things no other TE can do, and it doesn't surprise me he wants his contract to reflect that.

That said, I do not believe in giving into holdouts. I'm hoping they extend him and make him happy without any more nonsense.


Edit: When I look at NFL salaries and start feeling bad for the bottom tier guys...then realize they are making $465,000 minimum...just amazing!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Jul 15, 2014 at 7:36 AM ]
I was listening to ESPN radio this morning and these guys were all complaining about how they thought Graham was getting an unfair deal about 10 mil per season. Yeah I guess it seems like you're getting paid peanuts compared to some of the QBs at their absurd salaries but it still double-digit million per year for Pete's sake. I thought it was a pretty fair contract both. I think it's a pretty fair contract to both Graham and the Saints.