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Vernon Davis

  • cciowa
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Originally posted by Chief:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Chief:
He posted pics of him and Jimmy Graham on Facebook.

holy s**t,, another reason to cut him, i can add that to my list. people are really getting carried away here in throwing s**t at the wall and hoping it sticks to vernon. he posted some pics on facebook with him and another tight end,, yes , lets just take vernon outside and beat the s**t out of him for that. holy cow

Just posting the truth dude, chill out.
would you have posted that tidbit had he been at mini camp last week?
  • DeUh
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Originally posted by crabman82:
guy has played what 7 playoff games? and is already 1st or 2nd all time for tds by a tight end in the playoffs. have an off game for a change in the playoffs against a great secondary and this is how the fans treat you.

This.

I say it again. His talk this off season goes on my nerves and he definitely deserves that people now make fun of him. BUT he is one of the highest paid player on our team for a reason !
[ Edited by DeUh on Jun 23, 2014 at 9:05 AM ]
He's great, he's a contributor, he's a key part of the offense and maybe he should be paid like the best TE in the league, but this is all irrelevant and unnecessary.

He's under contract for 2 more seasons. He literally has no options short of retirement and since he's so concerned with his "brand," he's not about to do anything like that. This is just the worst kind of bluff - the kind where you not only have no good cards to play, but the opposition has a strong hand. I don't see the Niners doing anything but insisting that he get his butt into camp and play out his contract.
  • buck
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Originally posted by crake49:
He's great, he's a contributor, he's a key part of the offense and maybe he should be paid like the best TE in the league, but this is all irrelevant and unnecessary.

He's under contract for 2 more seasons. He literally has no options short of retirement and since he's so concerned with his "brand," he's not about to do anything like that. This is just the worst kind of bluff - the kind where you not only have no good cards to play, but the opposition has a strong hand. I don't see the Niners doing anything but insisting that he get his butt into camp and play out his contract.

This bluff, this conflict, is between Davis and the front office.

I see no reason to take sides in this conflict.

Davis is the same player that he was before he started this holdout. His strengths and weaknesses have not changed.

He has been a major contributor to this team. That has not changed. It may change, but as of today, it has not.

His holdout is his. If he suffers for it, he suffers. If he gains by it, he gains.

I really do not care. I think that he will be back next year. Have to see what happens.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Well.... scoring points and demanding attention are two different things. The Panthers gave a LOT of attention to Davis which opened up things for other players (like Patton).

Glad he did all that for patton's one reception
If he continues to hold-out, it'll just force Roman even more-so into opening the offense up during early TC drills.
I don't care if he's God's gift to tight ends, or if he's only making $10 an hr.! He signed a friggin' contract and needs to honor it. That's about the gist of it.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Chief:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Chief:
He posted pics of him and Jimmy Graham on Facebook.

holy s**t,, another reason to cut him, i can add that to my list. people are really getting carried away here in throwing s**t at the wall and hoping it sticks to vernon. he posted some pics on facebook with him and another tight end,, yes , lets just take vernon outside and beat the s**t out of him for that. holy cow

Just posting the truth dude, chill out.
would you have posted that tidbit had he been at mini camp last week?

Most likely no, but the fact the picture is from several months ago, both tightends are holding out and Vernon is posting it this morning is very relative. He is making a statement and you can take it however you like.
Originally posted by Chief:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Chief:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Chief:
He posted pics of him and Jimmy Graham on Facebook.

holy s**t,, another reason to cut him, i can add that to my list. people are really getting carried away here in throwing s**t at the wall and hoping it sticks to vernon. he posted some pics on facebook with him and another tight end,, yes , lets just take vernon outside and beat the s**t out of him for that. holy cow

Just posting the truth dude, chill out.
would you have posted that tidbit had he been at mini camp last week?

Most likely no, but the fact the picture is from several months ago, both tightends are holding out and Vernon is posting it this morning is very relative. He is making a statement and you can take it however you like.

CC, you got to give VD more credit then that..there are reasons in his head to post the two holdouts TE
VD has no leverage. He will play for us for the next 2 to 3 seasons. If not he loses A LOT of money. There is no doubt in my mind he reports sooner than later. His best bet at getting a new deal from us will be next summer. Right now we have other priorities so VD has to either wait his turn or sit out and lose out on a lot of dough that we can roll over into next season to extend other players to lucrative extensions. He would then still be obligated to us for the duration of his signed contract. He has no good play here other than to report and play for us. It will happen!
  • buck
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Chief:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Chief:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Chief:
He posted pics of him and Jimmy Graham on Facebook.

holy s**t,, another reason to cut him, i can add that to my list. people are really getting carried away here in throwing s**t at the wall and hoping it sticks to vernon. he posted some pics on facebook with him and another tight end,, yes , lets just take vernon outside and beat the s**t out of him for that. holy cow

Just posting the truth dude, chill out.
would you have posted that tidbit had he been at mini camp last week?

Most likely no, but the fact the picture is from several months ago, both tightends are holding out and Vernon is posting it this morning is very relative. He is making a statement and you can take it however you like.

CC, you got to give VD more credit then that..there are reasons in his head to post the two holdouts TE

Jimmy Graham is not holding out. He is not signed.

He will not sign until after there is a decision on whether he will be paid as a wide receiver or a tight end.

I do not know, and do not care, if Graham is right or wrong, but he is not a holdout.

An unsigned player, a player with no contract, cannot be a holdout.

But, I am sure that there is something in Vernon's head.


[ Edited by buck on Jun 23, 2014 at 2:14 PM ]
Originally posted by buck:
Jimmy Graham is not holding out. He is not signed.

He will not sign until after there is a decision on whether he will be paid as a wide receiver or a tight end.

I do not know, and do not care, if Graham is right or wrong, but he is not a holdout.

An unsigned player, a player with no contract, cannot be a holdout.


so why is he fighting to be paid to like a WR ?

its because he's not going to accept the TE offer
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
so why is he fighting to be paid to like a WR ?

its because he's not going to accept the TE offer

He is not a holdout. If he signs as a tight end and does not show up, he will be a holdout.

I do not have all the information about why is fighting to be paid as a wide receiver, but I think he is claiming that he has lined up as a wide receiver more than he has lined up as a tight end.

He claim is basically a claim that he has been working out-of-class and should get the pay of the higher class.

This type of claim, grievance actually, is not uncommon when there is a collective bargaining agreement.

I am sure that Vernon Davis hopes that if Graham wins, it will help him.

I have no idea, and do not care if Graham is right or wrong or if he wins or loses.

But, if you said Graham was a holdout, you were in error. Not a big deal, but facts are facts.

Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
so why is he fighting to be paid to like a WR ?

its because he's not going to accept the TE offer

He is not a holdout. If he signs as a tight end and does not show up, he will be a holdout.

I do not have all the information about why is fighting to be paid as a wide receiver, but I think he is claiming that he has lined up as a wide receiver more than he has lined up as a tight end.

He claim is basically a claim that he has been working out-of-class and should get the pay of the higher class.

This type of claim, grievance actually, is not uncommon when there is a collective bargaining agreement.

I am sure that Vernon Davis hopes that if Graham wins, it will help him.

I have no idea, and do not care if Graham is right or wrong or if he wins or loses.

But, if you said Graham was a holdout, you were in error. Not a big deal, but facts are facts.


this is it right there. not only did a lot of snaps come flexed out in some sort, he was taken out of the game on a lot of snaps both games they played vs seattle because they wanted to run it more and their other 2 te's are far better blockers than him. vernon is not in that case, most of his snaps came at the traditional te spot.
  • DeUh
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Originally posted by crabman82:
this is it right there. not only did a lot of snaps come flexed out in some sort, he was taken out of the game on a lot of snaps both games they played vs seattle because they wanted to run it more and their other 2 te's are far better blockers than him. vernon is not in that case, most of his snaps came at the traditional te spot.

This. Graham sucks as a TE. He is a mismatch on the field who calls himself a WR and is called a TE by his team.

Totally different scenario with Vernon Davis. VD IS A TE. Doesn´t matter if he likes it or not.
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