Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cciowa:
who fills in for vernon, the all pro who is good for about 10 touchdowns a year? vance? wow he only had the number two spot last year because no one else was any good.. we can not be so arrogant as to think you can get rid of vernon and just plug someone in. we have never had to develop a tight end for years, i have no confidence in erik to do that, nor can we be so arrogant to think ck can just make vance a all pro. now vernon does not look as good as when he had walker? really,,, he had a great year last year and why am i even getting sucked into debating something as nonsensical as that? why is around here when people want certain players gone for whatever reason, gore and now vernon, they start blathering about how they are slipping. there is zero evidence to prove vernon is slipping,, even if there were, we go back to who replaces him.
Why is that your only comeback ...there are 29 other teams that can play with out an elite TE..including the 2013 SB champs
we have seen how important vernon is to the offense and we have seen what he has done to the rest of the nfl when we play them. you are willing to get rid of that weapon and go with some guy who was barely a number two?who gives a s**t about what all other teams in the nfl does. with our team a big part of our success is a tight end like vernon and i am not willing to give that up unless he creates a real divide in the locker room, or his hold out runs deep into pre season then you probably have to cut bait and hope for the best. it is pure arrogance on a segment of our fan base, in my opinion, that we can just dump a weapon like him and we will not skip a beat. part of me wants to say ignorance but i do not want to make it personal. you can set up at nights worrying about what 29 other nfl teams do, why should we be like 20 other teams, while at the same time, taking a pretty big weapon out of our game. maybe you can tell me why in the last two weeks we are finding out all these things about vernon we never knew before from some fans
1 he is soft
2 he is scared of the other guys we brought in
3 he is scared he will not be targeted as much
4 he is out of shape
5 he is slipping and is not as good as he was
7 he was only good because walker was here(never get over that one)
8 he is a cancer
if he was all these things seems to me we would have heard about them last year during the season,,, or could it just be, some people are inventing and generating holes in his game and his status as a team mate because they have decided they hate vernon and as we have seen so many times on this board,, when people become loyal to their hatred of a player, it prevents them from being objective