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Vernon Davis

  • cciowa
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Originally posted by Heed49er:
If he holds out until Week 1 & then has any kind of injury issue

Webzone flame-fest.

what he probably will do is just like jerry rice did,,, hold out, come back, jump off sides twice in the first game and thats it. wow i remember john madden yelling at him on tv. A WIDE RECEIVER SHOULD NEVER BE OFF SIDES !.. honestly while we all get starved for niner news, for the next month I hope there is no news or drama about our team. let this vernon thing cool down a bit
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If you don't know your past, you won't know your future....

What was Walsh's motto again?
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Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If you don't know your past, you won't know your future....

What was Walsh's motto again?

i think he stole that catch phrase from a sign that was posted above the mass suicide event coordinated by rev jim jones back in the day. that is about all i got out of that .
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If you don't know your past, you won't know your future....

What was Walsh's motto again?
ok not a motto..that still doesn't take away what his thought process was
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If you don't know your past, you won't know your future....

What was Walsh's motto again?
ok not a motto..that still doesn't take away what his thought process was
in my opinion his thought process means nothing to the current regime. these are not walsh's niners, this is not the same nfl. walsh could have learned a thing or two from JH in the way JH handled the ck vs smith thing. the way walsh handled joe vs steve tore the team apart, all 3 used an eager media to push their agenda. i realize after yesterdays debate you think I was living in some sort of a closet during the walsh years but the "walsh way" has nothing to do with todays niners or the vernon davis situation.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If you don't know your past, you won't know your future....

What was Walsh's motto again?
ok not a motto..that still doesn't take away what his thought process was
in my opinion his thought process means nothing to the current regime. these are not walsh's niners, this is not the same nfl. walsh could have learned a thing or two from JH in the way JH handled the ck vs smith thing. the way walsh handled joe vs steve tore the team apart, all 3 used an eager media to push their agenda. i realize after yesterdays debate you think I was living in some sort of a closet during the walsh years but the "walsh way" has nothing to do with todays niners or the vernon davis situation.

i think its really over stated the connection between bill walsh and jim harbaugh. yeah they knew each other at the end of bills life and talked football probably quite a bit but i dont buy the notion that he is just going to copy walsh at everything. if harbaugh took any other job you would hear very little about his connection to bill walsh. its appealing on a nostalgic level for 49er fans but other that that i dont read into it at all. i think people try to make too many connections like bill did this so jim will to cus that was his mentor or whatever. i dont buy it.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
ok not a motto..that still doesn't take away what his thought process was

Thank you for acknowledging the motto claim was erroneous.

Davis, and Boone, are holding out.

I have no idea what Walsh thought about holding out or players that held out, and the current discussion is really focused on Davis, his holdout, and what that means.

Unless you can provide us with Walsh's thoughts that pertain directly to current hold out of Davis, why bring Walsh and his way into the current discussion.

Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
ok not a motto..that still doesn't take away what his thought process was

Thank you for acknowledging the motto claim was erroneous.

Davis, and Boone, are holding out.

I have no idea what Walsh thought about holding out or players that held out, and the current discussion is really focused on Davis, his holdout, and what that means.

Unless you can provide us with Walsh's thoughts that pertain directly to current hold out of Davis, why bring Walsh and his way into the current discussion.

if you read the post where i brought that up correctly, we were not talking about hold outs
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Originally posted by crabman82:
i think its really over stated the connection between bill walsh and jim harbaugh. yeah they knew each other at the end of bills life and talked football probably quite a bit but i dont buy the notion that he is just going to copy walsh at everything. if harbaugh took any other job you would hear very little about his connection to bill walsh. its appealing on a nostalgic level for 49er fans but other that that i dont read into it at all. i think people try to make too many connections like bill did this so jim will to cus that was his mentor or whatever. i dont buy it.
no one ever asks what dennis erickson would have done
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Originally posted by buck:
Thank you for acknowledging the motto claim was erroneous.

Davis, and Boone, are holding out.

I have no idea what Walsh thought about holding out or players that held out, and the current discussion is really focused on Davis, his holdout, and what that means.

Unless you can provide us with Walsh's thoughts that pertain directly to current hold out of Davis, why bring Walsh and his way into the current discussion.

agree with buck. even though he knows i go over board bringing up old school niners at times,, this whole thing with bringing up walsh as it pertains to vernon davis or any other modern day 49er issue has no value. i wonder if the niners will have any contact with vernon in the next 30 days or do they just wait for him to come to them while they just proceed with who does report to camp?
Originally posted by cciowa:
no one ever asks what dennis erickson would have done

Because we already know:

He'd have a drink.




.....that's about it.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if you read the post where i brought that up correctly, we were not talking about hold outs

If you had limited your use of Bill Walsh to that aspect of the discussion, I would not have had a problem, but you continued to use Walsh and the Walsh Way in a generalized manner--a manner that seemed to go beyond a specific response.

You motto comment was erroneous, history false, and you still had the gall to come back insinuate that those of us who do not know our history (did not our Bill Walsh), did not know our future.


But, it is preseason and we do get antsy.
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Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by cciowa:
no one ever asks what dennis erickson would have done

Because we already know:

He'd have a drink.




.....that's about it.

or stand around with that finger up his butt expression that used to infuriate me
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if you read the post where i brought that up correctly, we were not talking about hold outs

If you had limited your use of Bill Walsh to that aspect of the discussion, I would not have had a problem, but you continued to use Walsh and the Walsh Way in a generalized manner--a manner that seemed to go beyond a specific response.

You motto comment was erroneous, history false, and you still had the gall to come back insinuate that those of us who do not know our history (did not our Bill Walsh), did not know our future.


But, it is preseason and we do get antsy.
you were more focused on the wrong term used, then the point.

its like a finger pointing to the moon, Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
if you read the post where i brought that up correctly, we were not talking about hold outs

If you had limited your use of Bill Walsh to that aspect of the discussion, I would not have had a problem, but you continued to use Walsh and the Walsh Way in a generalized manner--a manner that seemed to go beyond a specific response.

You motto comment was erroneous, history false, and you still had the gall to come back insinuate that those of us who do not know our history (did not our Bill Walsh), did not know our future.


But, it is preseason and we do get antsy.
you were more focused on the wrong term used, then the point.

its like a finger pointing to the moon, Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory
for goodness sakes i used to howl at the moon when i was 13