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Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
just following him on instagram, I can almost guarantee this is more about extending the contract so he can retire a 49er. He's mentioned plenty of times that he wants to be a niner for the rest of his career
i just don't understand why he'd cough up 200k to do it
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:not saying that at all.
Trade him and Boone, we don't need either one! We have talent and depth, send them both to the Jags, or some other s**tty franchise and lot the greedy b*****ds rot!
Originally posted by swayze:bc you can't put a price on a dream, especially when you're already rich as hell
Originally posted by Ohio49er:
Where is Davis' leverage?
Davis signed a five-year extension in 2010 that pays him an average annual salary of $7.35 million. Per spotrac.com, Davis' deal was front-loaded, and he is scheduled to earn $5.3 million this year in base salary and bonuses (including the $200,000 workout bonus). Next year he would earn a little over $4.98 million in base salary and bonuses
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On many teams the TE is nothing more than the sixth offensive lineman. At $7.35 million Davis isn't underpaid. He's second only to Anthony Davis in salary and he's not better than Gronkowski and Graham. These guys are freaks at their position, but I'm sorry, if I'm Trent Balkie I'm not sweating this at all. The Niners already have to sign Kapernick and you know they're going to take care of him first, and then look at what Iupati and Crabtree are going to demand.
Does anyone think Davis is going to pass up those game checks? $200,000 means a lot to me and you, but to a guy making $7 million a season he's not sweating that money at all.
Davis and Alex Boone don't have a leg to stand on. They can be "unhappy" and it's nice to want, but get back to me when the games start meaning something.
If these clowns are missing games when the big checks are cut, then I'll pay attention. Right now, it means nothing.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
This thread is derailing...
Vernon is a top TE in the league, and he recognizes that with the addition of Johnson, Lloyd, and Ellington, plus a healthy Crabtree and Boldin, his total touches will probably go down. He may never have a statistical season like last year or 2009 again. Both of those years, he represented a significant portion of the offensive production. I don't see that happening anymore, and it's possible that Davis doesn't either. He'll want to cash in on last year's success and sign a 'finish your career here' type extension.
I highly doubt the Niners FO would allow Davis to go. He's such a talent and a leader on this team.
You'd still have to believe that the Niners FO wants to sign Kaep first though. Davis will get his money, but it could take awhile. I'm sure Davis is hoping Jimmy Graham can get the TE / WR gap closed on franchise tag $$.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I don't know if this is necessarily true - do we need a big, fast, big sized deep threat/red zone WR? I think you may be looking for too much of the offense to come from one player. Sure it would be great to have that one dominant receiver who's talented enough to completely take over a game. As 49er fans, we're a little spoiled because most of us have seen two, possible 3 in our lifetime on this team (Clark, Rice, and Owens). Conversely, VD is not a big sized deep threat/red zone pass-catcher combo. He's fast, he's a mismatch for defenses, but does he have the talent to completely take over a game even when doubled in the hybrid model you've described? I haven't seen that from many receiving threats in the league - you're talking about rare players like Megatron, in his prime Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Brandon Marshall, Dez Bryant (when he has his head on straight for the game), Roddy White at one time, and AJ Green. Those players are usually at the top of the draft or paid accordingly. I don't think VD is in their class as a receiver. When I look at all those teams they don't have the same talent in other key spots that we have. Their salary cap and talent are essentially dedicated to 3 or 4 players and you see that on the field. I very much believe this offense will survive without a super fast TE, who's speed is more straight line, than RAC and this is why when doubled, usually becomes nullified. IMHO that's the big difference between at TE and what you're looking for from a WR - route running, separation.
Now I'm not saying at all that VD isn't good and won't draw attention, I'm saying that if VD wants to paid as a primary receiving threat, you would expect him to consistently be an "8-men-in-the-box buster", your deep threat, and this is something at least I haven't seen consistently at all - and there have been many opportunities out of the 2TE, 1WR sets employed almost too often. I just believe there's a lot more to burning a defense that over-commits to stopping the run than a big, fast, runner who can take off at the snap. Separation, timing, elusiveness along with speed and able to beat the press/double-team. If a slightly slower, 6' player can do that down after down, then we're talkin!
Originally posted by xela510:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:not saying that at all.
Trade him and Boone, we don't need either one! We have talent and depth, send them both to the Jags, or some other s**tty franchise and lot the greedy b*****ds rot!
