Originally posted by ZRF80:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Memphis9er:
I blame Alex for not being able to block for himself, or catch the passes he did manage to get off, for not being out there to stop the guys running free through the defense, for not calling his own plays, for being drafted by Mike Nolan onto the worst niners team in 30+ years, for getting his shoulder shredded by a 330 pound lineman, global warming, teenage pregnancy, the national deficit, Obama, Sarah Palin, 9/11, social inequity, the Enron debacle, the Iraq war, Afghanistan, cancer, illiteracy, H1N1, unemployment, the decline of the dollar, and finally the never ending stream of ignorant posts about him on these message boards.
In that case, then I give credit only to the OL, WR, RBs, FB, and TEs in that almost comeback 3 TD second half.
We can go either way.
Honestly Joe, you'd probably be quite shocked at how little I care who you give credit to. You and some of the other posters here have proven to me beyond a doubt that you are pushing a personal agenda, and no doubt possess so little knowledge about the game of football that most here probably feel the same way. All I have to say is that JTO is the Man...wait maybe it is the Shaun Hill Starship...I don't think we have a great QB on the roster, but they do not grow on trees. You guys trying to blame one person for the piss poor play of the TEAM this past game are shortsighted and makes you guys look stupid. Just trying to keep you from once again making a fool of yourself, but hey...whatever lets you sleep at night.
The "personal agenda" we seek is called WINNING.
Dont you people get it ? The guy needs EVERYTHING to be perfect for things to go his way. One penalty.......drive over. One sack....drive over. Once the opposition takes the lead.......game over. Put him in a stress situation......he comes up short. Dont take my word for it. Go watch the gamefilm. And not just from Sing/Raye's playbook. Take a trip in Niner history and check his track record with Nolan/McCarthy, Nolan/Turner, Nolan/Hostler. It's the same thing over and over. The guy has done nothing (bar the Arizona and Seattle games in 06) that would make him seem like a franchise QB.
Let me repeat.......he has done NOTHING that would make him seem like a franchise QB. So instead of trying to fix eveything around him so that it is picture perfect.......why not find someone else that can execute in a flawed offense ? Dont guys like Brees and Favre work with mediocre receiving groups ? Dont guys like Rodgers have success with poor olines ? Dont guys like Flacco excel in conservative offenses ? Why can all these guys have success in "less than perfect" situations, but Alex needs everything to be just right.
Seriously......I just dont get how you people can accept losing for 7 years, and STILL be willing to risk another season (eg 2010) of possibly exiting early on......
Give a solution. What free agent QB is out there that can be a franchise QB or at least get them into the playoffs next year? Kolb? Hard to tell with him and if he is for real I doubt Philly is going to be eager to deal him. Davis might well turn into a solid NFL QB but do you think he is ready next year? Obviously the Niners don't because they sure are not rushing him. They are the ones who see him everyday. Are we willing to risk next season on the gamble he would be? Which of the college QBS are you confident can step in behind this offensive line and make a difference that will get the Niners to the playoffs next year? Who? What do you want the Niners to do? Do you suggest putting Hill in there again for next season?
This team was gutted earlier this decade. It was the bill that came due mainly thanks to Carmen Policy (with Eddie D's backing) in the 90s. The problem was compounded by hiring that jack a** Donuhue who carried out the gutting but was incapable of drafting any talent or running the team with any semblance of competence. Difficult to run a team over the phone from Newport Beach. Then the hiring of Nolan not only as coach but also as GM. Disatrous. It was going to be bad no matter what. For the first few years this decade the Niners were paying more of their cap to players no longer on the team than to the ones that were actually on it. It didn't have to be as bad as it has turned out to be but it was going to be bad.
I am actually more optimistic about the Niners than I have been in awhile. Crabtree and Davis are becoming real playmakers in the passing game. We haven't seen that in a long, long, time. Alex has at times looked very good. Better than he ever did in his earlier incarnation years ago. Why does there have to be a definite judgement on him just 4 1/2 games in? Again, tell me what are the Niners better options in the near future? Alex's development gives the Niners the best chance of going to the playoffs next year. You will grant he is developing but argue that it isn't near enough. You are ready the write the last chapter. Some of us are not. But those of us who think Alex is developing into a legiitmate quarterback realize that this would be the best possible thing for the Niners. A lot of you feel the Niners have to pull the cord. But what where do we get the quarterback who will likely get the Niners into the playoffs next year?