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When will we finally get over the hump?

  • Memphis49er
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It's been 7 long seasons without a playoff berth. How much longer do we have to endure. I've seen several teams rebuild since our last playoff scene. Every Monday I'm the butt end of everybody's jokes. I wanna be the one thats cracking on people's teams sometimes. I've heard every 49er can't win joke there was ever created. It almost hurt me to watch sometimes. We get the lead and I say to myself, how are we gonna blow it this week. I've been a 49er fan for 26 years and I have not seen anything to this nature. Help us somebody, Please, anybody. Make football fun for me again. Can we get it together before the Texans win a SuperBowl or will I forever be dwelling on those great 80's teams.
Originally posted by Memphis49er:
It's been 7 long seasons without a playoff berth. How much longer do we have to endure. I've seen several teams rebuild since our last playoff scene. Every Monday I'm the butt end of everybody's jokes. I wanna be the one thats cracking on people's teams sometimes. I've heard every 49er can't win joke there was ever created. It almost hurt me to watch sometimes. We get the lead and I say to myself, how are we gonna blow it this week. I've been a 49er fan for 26 years and I have not seen anything to this nature. Help us somebody, Please, anybody. Make football fun for me again. Can we get it together before the Texans win a SuperBowl or will I forever be dwelling on those great 80's teams.

when we get real leaders in the front office.
We have faded into mediocrity and there is no timeline as to when we will ever crawl out of this funk. Pretty sad.
When we get a decent offensive line.
When we get a franchise QB.
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
When we get a franchise QB.

Can't have a franchise QB without a line that can block for 5 seconds. See Lions, Detroit.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
When we get a franchise QB.

Can't have a franchise QB without a line that can block for 5 seconds. See Lions, Detroit.

Even if we had a great OL, we don't have a QB that can take advantage of it.

We need both.

[ Edited by BirdmanJr on Nov 9, 2009 at 09:07:52 ]
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
When we get a franchise QB.

Can't have a franchise QB without a line that can block for 5 seconds. See Lions, Detroit.

Even if we had a great OL, we don't have a QB that can take advantage of it.

We need both.

Well if we had a great OL, we could just run the ball and go with the original plan. With a great line we could start Hill and have him manage the game. See Dilfer, Trent; Stewert, Kordell; Sims, Phil.
McCloughan the idiot needs to go. We address the o-line by signing a guy with back problems and then a guy that was cut by the Jags? We sure are going places! WooHOOO!!!
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
McCloughan the idiot needs to go. We address the o-line by signing a guy with back problems and then a guy that was cut by the Jags? We sure are going places! WooHOOO!!!

But if ownership is clueless who is gonna fire him?
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by WheresWaldo:
McCloughan the idiot needs to go. We address the o-line by signing a guy with back problems and then a guy that was cut by the Jags? We sure are going places! WooHOOO!!!

But if ownership is clueless who is gonna fire him?

That's the thing. Jed isn't a man of his word. Not enough changes have been made in order for us to make the playoffs. We refused to address any needs before the trade deadline. We're sitting here with two first round picks and refuse to use one of them on someone that can help us out.
It's not going to be this year.

We either need a franchise QB, or a great OL, and we don't have either.

And a pass rusher would be nice...(wow, we haven't had a good pass rusher and good QB, since Peterson and Garcia;and even our OL hasn't been special for awhile).

We will see next year, with two top 10 possible 1st round picks, we can get our pass rusher and RT.

We need to give Davis a shot at QB before spending another high draft pick on a bust (this QB class is scary, Tebow? Bradford (bad shoulder in 5-6 years?) Locker (he will go #1); McCoy (not a great deep ball, and a spread offense); Pike?

You don't need an elite QB to win / make the SB. With a good OL and Defense, Hill or Davis (assuming Davis isn't a TO machine like JTO or Smith) can take us deep into the playoffs. But, I'd rather see Davis or ? be our #1 with Hill as our backup.
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
It's not going to be this year.

We either need a franchise QB, or a great OL, and we don't have either.

And a pass rusher would be nice...(wow, we haven't had a good pass rusher and good QB, since Peterson and Garcia;and even our OL hasn't been special for awhile).


We will see next year, with two top 10 possible 1st round picks, we can get our pass rusher and RT.

We need to give Davis a shot at QB before spending another high draft pick on a bust (this QB class is scary, Tebow? Bradford (bad shoulder in 5-6 years?) Locker (he will go #1); McCoy (not a great deep ball, and a spread offense); Pike?

You don't need an elite QB to win / make the SB. With a good OL and Defense, Hill or Davis (assuming Davis isn't a TO machine like JTO or Smith) can take us deep into the playoffs. But, I'd rather see Davis or ? be our #1 with Hill as our backup.

Wow, the bolded is almost word for word what I was going to post!
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
It's not going to be this year.

We either need a franchise QB, or a great OL, and we don't have either.

And a pass rusher would be nice...(wow, we haven't had a good pass rusher and good QB, since Peterson and Garcia;and even our OL hasn't been special for awhile).

We will see next year, with two top 10 possible 1st round picks, we can get our pass rusher and RT.

We need to give Davis a shot at QB before spending another high draft pick on a bust (this QB class is scary, Tebow? Bradford (bad shoulder in 5-6 years?) Locker (he will go #1); McCoy (not a great deep ball, and a spread offense); Pike?

You don't need an elite QB to win / make the SB. With a good OL and Defense, Hill or Davis (assuming Davis isn't a TO machine like JTO or Smith) can take us deep into the playoffs. But, I'd rather see Davis or ? be our #1 with Hill as our backup.


Like your logic dude and want to run with it a little ......

So using the caution about selecting another bust, I have no faith at all we have people in place to identify a franchise QB. We may WANT one, but getting one is another matter entirely. Remember Scott McC still believes in Smith but aren't going to give him the OL, coaching and OC to let Alex work in the systems he knows best. Remember if Crabtree doesn't fall to us at 10, we have Jones, Bruce and Morgan as our starting WRs. EEK!

This is my biggest beef with the GM - there's no vision for the future. I'd much rather have this team invest in a good group of linemen in the the first three rounds, that way all our hopes don't hinge on one player panning out. At this stage, Scott hasn't proven he can choose linemen consistently - Balmer, Baas, Rachal, Snyder. These are great bench players, but starters? No Way.

Quite frankly, I'm waiting for McClough to groom the team for another GM who can understand just drafting a QB is 1/4 of the story - you need an OL, you need WR, more importantly you need to DEVELOP impact starters and you do that by selecting a coach who understands and can attract development-oriented coaching staff.
2011, assuming we do start drafting linemen and put our stock in another QB.