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Alex "The Mirage" Smith

  • jcs
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Originally posted by Axl49:
When are we gonna realize that Nate "get off his nuts already" Davis isnt the answer. Im not saying Alex is which i hope he is because i really dont want to go through that QB crap again but Davis IS NOT THE ANSWER People.

At least not this season...kids a rookie with talent, who knows how he develops...thats why we need to keep him on the bench developing while we struggle with who we have.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Whatever Alex is, he's the best we've got right now.. as far as giving us a chance to get the ball down the field and score.

With Hill, teams stop the short game and suffocate us. The Hill reign unfortunately is over, and it's either got to be Smith -- we have to hope this game was a fluke bad game -- or if he can't rebound, we need to hope we can find someone else, or that Nate Davis can develop into our future QB.

That's about it.

I have been very critical of Smith, but I agree with this. Hill is done. Lets give Smith a chance to redeem.

I can clearly see Smith improving on all facets of his game, but he reverted to his old habits in the 2nd half. Lets hope that won't happen too often in the future.

Hill is lucky to have started in this league. If Hill had any talent he'd be a career starter. The problem is that he's slow and has no arm. Period.

And he knows how to win which is the exact opposite of Smith (Quick, has an arm and doesn't know how to win)

I'll take less talented winners over talented losers any day


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  • Axl49
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Axl49:
When are we gonna realize that Nate "get off his nuts already" Davis isnt the answer. Im not saying Alex is which i hope he is because i really dont want to go through that QB crap again but Davis IS NOT THE ANSWER People.

At least not this season...kids a rookie with talent, who knows how he develops...thats why we need to keep him on the bench developing while we struggle with who we have.
Thank you IF HE has the talent which i dont think he is anything special let him sit and learn and not make the same mistake twice and throw out there before he is ready. AGAIN if he is the answer which IMO is not but we never know. Just dont be stupid about it again
  • ldussan
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This team just has to practice and get better. They have the pieces. A Smith has got to learn to protect the football in three days though. He had one bad pick, the others were questionable his fault.

Having said all that though, one more bad game like this and you can start the guessing game, Holmgren, Shanahan, or Gruden. What else can you say
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D (the same team that gave up 5 TD's in one quarter) and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

[ Edited by TheG0RE49er on Nov 10, 2009 at 08:39:14 ]
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

How did one person lose the game? He helped but the whole team played s**tty.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

How did one person lose the game? He helped but the whole team played s**tty.

You're right! With that logic, JTO never lost us any games either.

[ Edited by TheG0RE49er on Nov 10, 2009 at 08:41:39 ]
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

How did one person lose the game? He helped but the whole team played s**tty.

You're right! With that logic, JTO never lost us any games either.

I never blamed him for losing games. Our line was s**t with him too, and so was our coaching and the D wasnt very good. Yes alex played a huge part in losing but he didnt cost us the game himself
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

How did one person lose the game? He helped but the whole team played s**tty.

You're right! With that logic, JTO never lost us any games either.

I never blamed him for losing games. Our line was s**t with him too, and so was our coaching and the D wasnt very good. Yes alex played a huge part in losing but he didnt cost us the game himself

So, if Alex would've only had 1 TO or none, we would've still lost that game?
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by pigskin:
Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

How did one person lose the game? He helped but the whole team played s**tty.

You're right! With that logic, JTO never lost us any games either.

I never blamed him for losing games. Our line was s**t with him too, and so was our coaching and the D wasnt very good. Yes alex played a huge part in losing but he didnt cost us the game himself

So, if Alex would've only had 1 TO or none, we would've still lost that game?

Yes I think so. Wasn't two of his picks at the end of the game when the Titans were already up because our D failed to make tackles? I do blame Alex but is wasn't just him. The D played really bad missed tackles stupid coverage mistakes
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Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

How did one person lose the game? He helped but the whole team played s**tty.

You're right! With that logic, JTO never lost us any games either.

I never blamed him for losing games. Our line was s**t with him too, and so was our coaching and the D wasnt very good. Yes alex played a huge part in losing but he didnt cost us the game himself

So, if Alex would've only had 1 TO or none, we would've still lost that game?

Yes I think so. Wasn't two of his picks at the end of the game when the Titans were already up because our D failed to make tackles? I do blame Alex but is wasn't just him. The D played really bad missed tackles stupid coverage mistakes

Ya the D gave up some plays too, but they put us in a position to win TWICE, at the end of the game.

I wouldn't be this pissed if it wasn't the Titans. I was proud of our guys against the Texans (mostly Alex) and proud of our guys against the Colts, and Vikings...this is just a terrible loss, a nail in the coffin.

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Good analysis? On the fumble was a freak accident? No it wasn't. This type of fumble, when a defender hits the QB as he winds up to pass, is VERY common.

The OL is bad, but they actually blocked OK for the game. Smith had time on most plays, but he choked. He had time to go through progressions but didn't as the game progressed.

Tennessee actually looked bad to me - far from being a playoff team. Their D is bad. Their O has ONE weapon. They will end up with a losing season - guaranteed.

This is a game we should have won if Hill played, but Smith gave it away. Hill has never ever given a game away.

You don't know that.

And, Hill showed us this season that he needed the defense to play lights out to win. And he did give away a game. Remember the Texans? Hill started that, sucked rotten donkey dicks and got pulled. It was Smith that got us into that game.

Like i've said, i love it when people write statements that they can't prove.

-9fA

Having a brain freeze or in need of a reading lesson? Where did I say Hill would win for sure?

And when did Hill suck rotten donkey d*ck the way Smith sucked yesterday? Smith didn't really got us anything, except 2 losses and a bunch of turnovers.

Stupid post of the day.

Try the Rams game.

Try the Falcons game.

Try the Texans game.

Next.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Next.

Can't remember the 3 picks and fumble lost, and half the passes being throw late in of those games.

Either way. Both QB's are not the future, but I'd rather have Hill as my backup (not starter) any day over Smith.

If you are going to put blame for the INT's at least put it in the right place. 2 of the 3 were all on the WR. The WR failed to catch the ball sending it 10 feet in the air off of a tip. As a matter of fact 4 out of the 5 INT's Smith has have come off of tipped passes from the WR failing to catch the ball. So again put the blame where it belongs.

Wow.. let's see AS pick last week wasn't his fault? I could rewatch it for the tenth time, but as I recall, the ball was high and barely within Crabtree's reach.

INT to Crabtree against Titans not his fault? Crabtree was waitng for the ball to arrive, and by the time it got there, the defender was all over him.

I would blame the INT on the Morgan tipped pass on Smith as well. Stared him down, and threw high into double coverage.

You need a DVR is you seriously think that Smith is only to blame for 1 of his 5 INTS...


If a WR can touch the ball it is catchable. The blame is on the WR not on Smith. I have a DVR and I have rewatched the games and yes I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE WR'S ARE TO BLAME FOR 4 OF THE 5 INT'S.

I'm sorry if even with visual / audio evidence you still believe it was the WR's fault. On the first INT, the ball was tipped by the CB, because the throw came late, you can see the CB getting the jump on the ball. If he would've thrown it earlier, it would've been a catch or a drop pass at worst. If that's not enough, you can hear the announcers saying that the throw was late, and needed to come out quicker.

His 2nd INT all his fault, poor read.

3rd INT, HE STARTED DOWN MORGAN, and threw it to him in really tight coverage, some blame can be placed on Morgan I guess, but plenty of WR's wouldn't have made that catch, especially not no 6th rounder.


His 2nd int was by far the worst pass he's thrown this season,the 1st and 2nd were good plays by the defenders.Morgan said himself on the 3rd it wasn't his or Alex's fault-the defender made a great play.


No QB is going to be perfect and certainly not one who has yet to prove himself and has been out for 2yrs.As long as Alex can find a way to cut down on the turnovers he's responsible for he's the 49ers best chance at this point.He has definitely improved over previous years.Besides the int's he's done what Hill hasn't-

gained more 1st downs(alot more)

thrown more td passes in a game(3)

thrown for more yards in a game(286)

Haters like many on the zone are gonna pounce on every little mistake he makes(surprise surprise)but he's got to keep playing and get better.If not then maybe Sing will get Nate Davis in there before the season ends.

GO NINERS

Little mistake? HE LOST US THE GAME. 4 TO's, that's not including any other bad throws that he had.

and btw, we played the Titans D and the Colts D, and he still didn't impress. I'm glad he can KINDA get it done against a Texans prevent D, lol.

How did one person lose the game? He helped but the whole team played s**tty.

You're right! With that logic, JTO never lost us any games either.

I never blamed him for losing games. Our line was s**t with him too, and so was our coaching and the D wasnt very good. Yes alex played a huge part in losing but he didnt cost us the game himself

So, if Alex would've only had 1 TO or none, we would've still lost that game?

Yes I think so. Wasn't two of his picks at the end of the game when the Titans were already up because our D failed to make tackles? I do blame Alex but is wasn't just him. The D played really bad missed tackles stupid coverage mistakes

Ya the D gave up some plays too, but they put us in a position to win TWICE, at the end of the game.

I wouldn't be this pissed if it wasn't the Titans. I was proud of our guys against the Texans (mostly Alex) and proud of our guys against the Colts, and Vikings...this is just a terrible loss, a nail in the coffin.


Yeah it deff was a horrid lose. And dont think I'm not blaming Alex man I deff am he played like s**t those picks IMO were all on him not the Wr's like people are saying. I just cant pin it all on him
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Alex "The Man" Smith.. he will take us to the promise land
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Alex Smith = JT O'sullivan

Seriously, JT looked good throwing the ball down field just like Alex has for most of the time, but it was the costly turnovers that were JT's downfall. Alex is throwing the ball well most of the time, but his turnovers are killing us.

Actually....IMHO, I think JTO has more accuracy than Smith....

Oh boy..I predict a wild thread...

I think this would be a good time for me to mention that I thought Robinson looked strong on that one run up the middle......I think he should be given more starting opportunities.

Grats , You just showed the board ur football smarts , a classic post ........

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