Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by TheRatMan13:Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by D_Niner:Yes, all QBs have some drops, even Manning had some passes dropped. However, the passes the Colts didn't hold were not even remotely as easy to catch as the simple drop by Bruce where even Tim Ryan said it was one he should catch 999 times out of 1,000, OR the EASY drop by Davis on a throw that hit him in the numbers, OR the time Davis didn't even make an attempt to drag his left foot to stay in bounds.Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by D_Niner:There are also some who would add the four easily catchable balls that were dropped to Smith's rating and see that he did better than Manning...but not everyone chooses to look beyond pure stats.Originally posted by Super5:Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by Super5:Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by D_Niner:
Meh...
He did about the same as Hill has all season. Less than 60% completions, less than 200 yards passing, 1TD and 1 Int... We need a real effin QB instead of these losers...
Oh, and a 74.7 QB rate... We could insert these numbers directly into Hill's stat sheet and no one would know the difference.
If you look at the stats for this game it looks like S.Hill on paper but if you watched the actual game it's obvious there's a difference and who the better QB is.If Raye didn't go vanilla most of the game Smith's stats would not only look "prettier" they would have won a game they had no business even being competitive in.
Smith's stats for the year in 1 1/2 games:
34-54 for 404yds 4td 2int 7.5avg 63%comp 95.0 rtg
Hill's stats for the year in 6 games:
87-155 for 943yds 5td 2int 6.1avg 56.1%comp 79.6 rtg
At this point Smith's stats look more favorable
The question was how he did today. Not last week, not 2006 but today. Now today, he played at the same level as Shaun Hill.
Look, all I'm saying is that this kid has not put up numbers that we as fans should be content with (just for the record neither has Hill). This type of QB play will not get us wins against good teams. Our D is just not good enough to carry poor QB play
You're overreacting he didn't play "poor" against Indy-not great,not poor but ok.
I'm overreacting? His performance was below average for NFL standards. Below average = poor to me. Just ok would = average and Good would be above average.
Look at it this way, there are several who consider Hill's QB accomplishments to be poor. Maybe this is why he is not our starting QB anymore? Alex had a Shaun Hill type of day (look at the stats). Now if Hill's stats are poor and Alex put up just as dismal numbers, then Alex's performance was poor.
And there are those of you who only choose to make excuses. The fact is that all QB's have receivers who drop good passes. None of them get a little star by their name to say "but 4 of his drops weren't his fault". Smith had a Shaun Hill stat type of day. I hope he gets better and I think he can; but, his performance yesterday wasn't all that great....
As to the comparison with Shaun Hill; that is almost laughable. There were 5-7 completions Smith had that were on passes Hill could not have even gotten to the receivers, hence, the comparison to Hill is invalid. That long completion to Crabtree is a ball Hill is not capable of throwing. Four sideline completions were rockets that the DB knocks down or even picks if Hill is throwing his wounded ducks.
You appear to be missing a big part of why Smith is in the game in the first place. Hill would not have even come close to Smith's numbers in that game yesterday. He just isn't capable of making most of those throws.
Bottom line: Alex Smith kept the 49ers in a game yesterday against a team that looks like a Super Bowl team this year, certainly one of the three best in the league. Shaun Hill was not capable of doing that. Numbers be damned, Hill could not have done what Smith did...PERIOD.
Again with the excuses. Do you even realize Hill and Smith play a different type of game? Of course Smith made throws that Hill wouldn't have been able to. If Hill was in, his completion % would most likely be higher than Smiths was. This is because they play 2 different types of games... I'm not arguing that Hill would have done better or should even be the starter. All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, Smith did not net much better than what Hill has done for us all year. How hard is this for you Smith lovers to understand?
Ronnie Lott wanted Smith over Hill too. I will take a HOF DB's opinion over a zoner's.
Nobody is saying that Smith is going to be great. We are saying that he is showing more poise than he ever has, and more than Hill did for the first 6 years. The fact of the matter is Hill didnt play the Colts, so who knows what would have happened. I would be willing to bet that Gore doesnt break that run, Hill takes more sacks, and probably gets picked off more.
And I'm only saying that Smith played below average (as NFL QB's go) yesterday. That's all. I don't know why this is such a problem for some folks on here...
I don't know about below average. He played average compared to the rest of the QB's in the NFL. This is the best a QB has played against the Colts this season, except for Senaca Wallace, but the seahawks were down big in the 4th and Colts eased up and started to rest players.
And about you saying ill would have had a higher comp %. That is also wrong because out of 6 games hill has played he has been higher than 59% only 2 times.
