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Crabtree and Jason Hill... 4 stickiest hands on the team?
Oct 29, 2009 at 6:59 PM
- Trajik1
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I wana see Hill activated for a game
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:08 PM
- ObePwnD
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Originally posted by darkknight49:
Looks like he's on timeout, LOL. There's no question about his ability, so he must be in the doghouse for some reason.
[ Edited by ObePwnD on Oct 29, 2009 at 7:31 PM ]
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:10 PM
- Ether
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Originally posted by BurritoSmuggler:
crabtree yes. hill no. hill has bad hands. watch ALL his highlights. his asset is speed. not really a hands guy. 2nd best hands on the team- bruce. 3rd best- gore. 4th- jones
In what realm of reality does Frank Gore have good hands?
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:14 PM
- B650
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Originally posted by Ether:Originally posted by BurritoSmuggler:
crabtree yes. hill no. hill has bad hands. watch ALL his highlights. his asset is speed. not really a hands guy. 2nd best hands on the team- bruce. 3rd best- gore. 4th- jones
In what realm of reality does Frank Gore have good hands?
He's pretty good catching the ball, even though he does fumble from time to time.
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:33 PM
- elguapo
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true i think our 3 wr's should be crab morgan and hill with jones as a deep threat
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:35 PM
- backontop
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Originally posted by elguapo:
true i think our 3 wr's should be crab morgan and hill with jones as a deep threat
if we sit bruce I would rather have Jones as the #3 WR.
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:47 PM
- Super5
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Originally posted by RichmondPete:
But jason hill sucks
Out of the 40 passes thrown his way last year he caught 30 of them
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:51 PM
- backontop
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Originally posted by Super5:Originally posted by RichmondPete:
But jason hill sucks
Out of the 40 passes thrown his way last year he caught 30 of them
well those 10 dropped passes made some type of impression on Singletary to not want to play the kid. Not sure what he did. I have never been a fan of him either but if you aren't going to activate him then cut him and pick up more OLineman seems how we can't block a girl scout team
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:53 PM
- SanDiego49er
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It puzzles me more than anything on this team. Jason Hill played real well last year in limited opportunities. His hands are in the excellent category. His speed is great and he runs good routes. He made plays last year. He is much, much better than an inactive player even if you don't like the guy.
I don't understand what is going on between him and Singletary. But I think he has talent and the ability to play. I would like to see Crabtree and Hill. Then you have to 2 guys who don't drop the ball. And Davis is amazing lately. That would be a great offense.
The treatment of Jason Hill can't be based on how he plays because he played well last year. He also would add a speed dimension and go deep ability to our offense. He did that at times last year. The haters will hate on him but if you watch the way he plays he gets separation, runs good routes and catches everything. The fair observer would have to come to the conclusion that whatever Singletary has against him is not related to the way he plays.
I don't understand what is going on between him and Singletary. But I think he has talent and the ability to play. I would like to see Crabtree and Hill. Then you have to 2 guys who don't drop the ball. And Davis is amazing lately. That would be a great offense.
The treatment of Jason Hill can't be based on how he plays because he played well last year. He also would add a speed dimension and go deep ability to our offense. He did that at times last year. The haters will hate on him but if you watch the way he plays he gets separation, runs good routes and catches everything. The fair observer would have to come to the conclusion that whatever Singletary has against him is not related to the way he plays.
Oct 29, 2009 at 7:58 PM
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To say Jason Hill's hands are close to crabtree is crazy. If he had any sort of hands, he would have caught that 4th and short pass when Nolan was around and he wouldn't have been perpetually sent to the bench.
Oct 29, 2009 at 8:04 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by cubanb:
To say Jason Hill's hands are close to crabtree is crazy. If he had any sort of hands, he would have caught that 4th and short pass when Nolan was around and he wouldn't have been perpetually sent to the bench.
You are grading the guy on 1 play, 1 pass, 1 game?
Oct 29, 2009 at 8:05 PM
- oldninerdude
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It puzzles me more than anything on this team. Jason Hill played real well last year in limited opportunities. His hands are in the excellent category. His speed is great and he runs good routes. He made plays last year. He is much, much better than an inactive player even if you don't like the guy.
I don't understand what is going on between him and Singletary. But I think he has talent and the ability to play. I would like to see Crabtree and Hill. Then you have to 2 guys who don't drop the ball. And Davis is amazing lately. That would be a great offense.
The treatment of Jason Hill can't be based on how he plays because he played well last year. He also would add a speed dimension and go deep ability to our offense. He did that at times last year. The haters will hate on him but if you watch the way he plays he gets separation, runs good routes and catches everything. The fair observer would have to come to the conclusion that whatever Singletary has against him is not related to the way he plays.
A couple of points for your consideration:
Perhaps it isn't Singletary who's making the call, perhaps its Sullivan, or Raye, who isn't happy with J. Hill. We can only guess. My guess is that he's not making Sullivan happy in some way.
I agree with your assessment of J. Hill's abilities. Even in preseason this year, when he got an opportunity, he caught whatever was thrown his way. I also think he's shown himself to be an outstanding ST player--gunner. Terrific speed, good hands, and he can tackle.
Not sure about his route running ability, or his blocking ability, but seems like he's got the tools and the desire.
I have to think that he's in the long term plan, even if he's not seeing any PT this year. Next year, Bruce is gone, Battle may be done, leaving Crabs, Morgan, Jones, and Hill for a solid WR corps.
Oct 29, 2009 at 8:07 PM
- backontop
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ever wonder if maybe Sullivan sees something in Hill that he would like to improve upon to make him more of a threat. Could be a developmental type thing. But like you said, nobody really knows.
Oct 29, 2009 at 8:17 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:I am not grading him as an overall player on 1 game, but if we are talking about Crabtree's hands vs Jason Hill's hands, yes, I feel just fine grading Crabtrees hands better than Hill's and it isn't close. I do hope Hill develops and if given a fair shot on the roster, but crabtree is in a different league hands wise.Originally posted by cubanb:
To say Jason Hill's hands are close to crabtree is crazy. If he had any sort of hands, he would have caught that 4th and short pass when Nolan was around and he wouldn't have been perpetually sent to the bench.
You are grading the guy on 1 play, 1 pass, 1 game?
Oct 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM
- oldninerdude
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Originally posted by backontop:
ever wonder if maybe Sullivan sees something in Hill that he would like to improve upon to make him more of a threat. Could be a developmental type thing. But like you said, nobody really knows.
Perhaps. One thing we do know--J. Hill could and should make himself indispensible on ST. He seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle of WRs, and needs some way to make himself stand out. ST play. Worked for Terrell Davis in Denver.