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Since the day this one was hired...
don't worry after this game if Craptree don't get the ball or hill stink it up , it will happen cuz Sing is smart he will make changes , will get rid of Ray !
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Can this team really afford to go through ANOTHER OC?

How about a little consistency for once...


It's not so much the coordinator as it is his system. Say Rathman takes over as OC and keeps Raye's system intact. It's a coordinator change, but the players won't have to learn a complete system.



if Rathman could handle being an OC, and all the sudden turn our offense into a powerhouse, he would have been hired to begin with.

you guys are delusional. theres so many roller coaster fans on this board. we were 3 secs from being 4-0 heading into the Falcons game. now youd think we were 0-5. our problem isnt the playcalling, its the fact that we have a backup QB as a starter, our line is still young and is coming along slow, and we have no impact WR's.

yeah lets blame Jimmy Raye after we gave him almost nothing to work with in the first place...here Jim, take a lifelong emergency QB with no arm, a young and average at best OL, and little to no talent at WR and make us a 30 ppg offense.

this board has no common sense...

nice solid post.


I agree with you more than I disagree with you.

I am concerned however about situations like the end of the Vikings game. When play calling gets impotent.
Or the lack of play action and screens.
To be fair the HC may be telling him to do these things though
They set the stage early and didnt hide anything in the way that they told everyone it's going to be smashmouth football. That is fine, but when you're down by a significant amount of points the ball needs a little flight. I feel confident that our OC is aware of that but i certainly dont feel confident that our qb can deliver. Take the Dolphins for instance against the Colts. They owned the time of possession and drilled the wildcat with a few throws and once they had their back against the wall at the end of the game they didnt know what to do because it wasnt in their gameplan to strike fast. I think we have a similar situation.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
Can this team really afford to go through ANOTHER OC?

How about a little consistency for once...


It's not so much the coordinator as it is his system. Say Rathman takes over as OC and keeps Raye's system intact. It's a coordinator change, but the players won't have to learn a complete system.



if Rathman could handle being an OC, and all the sudden turn our offense into a powerhouse, he would have been hired to begin with.

you guys are delusional. theres so many roller coaster fans on this board. we were 3 secs from being 4-0 heading into the Falcons game. now youd think we were 0-5. our problem isnt the playcalling, its the fact that we have a backup QB as a starter, our line is still young and is coming along slow, and we have no impact WR's.

yeah lets blame Jimmy Raye after we gave him almost nothing to work with in the first place...here Jim, take a lifelong emergency QB with no arm, a young and average at best OL, and little to no talent at WR and make us a 30 ppg offense.

this board has no common sense...


Co-signed, I'm not a big fan of Jimmy Raye but I don't think it's all his fault.
Originally posted by mryan1004:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by mryan1004:
i believe theres options out there, holmgren, shannahan, gruden, etc. we'll see how we finish the season, if our offense doesnt get better i strongly believe Singletary will make a move for OC

you named 3 superbowl winning coaches as possible OC's?











Yeah ok.

so be a head coach or dont get paid at all............... Yeah ok


Well, Gruden is getting paid on MNF, and doing a pretty good job IMO. Neither Shanahan or Holmgren will ever return to being a pure coordinator. One of them is likely to land in Carolina, the other in Washington. Other possible places they could land: San Diego, Dallas, Jacksonville, Buffalo ... assuming they even want to coach again.

Let's face it. The only way that either Holmgren or Shanahan returns to SF is if they become HC and the only way that happens is if Singletary is fired. And because there is 0% chance that Singletary gets fired in the next 2-3 years, we aren't landing either of them (or Gruden).
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by susweel:
The minute Jimmy Raye was hired.

word. its too late for a replacement tho, learning a new offense midseason is a great way to tank a season. i hope they can this fool and get a bright college HC or OC to be the replacement. someone who will stay a while. i wish they guy from Boise state or Belotti from oregon would be OC but why would they leave their positions in those programs? theres gotta be someone out there, maybe singletary can find an old highschool buddy like walsh did and make him OC. (Holmgren)

How about Andy Ludwig from Cal ?
Norv Turner could be looking for a job this offseason, he was doing a good job with the players we had, and now we have a little more talent. The guy is a great OC and a terrible HC, so he might not get another HC chance.


push it real gooddddddd

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