SanDiego,
Is anything you post in a positive light? I read topics like this team will NOT make the playoffs and Sing making BIG MISTAKES. By those titles, it's evident that you can utilize the caps button but what else do you really contribute that hasn't already been voiced by other naysayers?
Look I'm not a homer. I'm aware this team is gonna have to work hard to make the playoffs and it's very possible that they'll fall short. But what good is it to repeat that ish over and over?
I personally don't think Sing is doing a bad job at all. He (as well as the rest of the team) fell short in the ATL prep and performance but everyone makes mistakes. Plus ATL was coming off a bye. We just saw what NO did off the bye against the Giants.
The fact that you say Nolan was a better game manager and time manager is laughable. That guy pissed away more timeouts than anyone and was even more conserative than our current approach is.
Have some faith for christ sake.
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Oct 22, 2009 at 7:14 AM
- NinerPrideinNJ
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Oct 22, 2009 at 7:14 AM
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Originally posted by richierich:
All I see is b***hing and moaning. LOL.
Walsh and JJ not calling pep rallies? Do you even see the differences in their rosters and Singletarys?[/quote]
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YUP our roster sucks after years and years and years of rebuilding. But that goes to another topic which is Scot M. and the so called "REBUILD" of this team.
After years and years we still don't have these.
~ An O Line.
~ A pass rush.
~ A QB.
~ WR's.
~ Quality Safety play.
~ A KR / PR.
I guess that means Scot M. has failed miserably despite the undue love he recieves here (I don't understand why).[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Oct 22, 2009 at 7:15 AM ]
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:16 AM
- valrod33
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I do have a big problem with PEP RALLY TIMEOUTS. That should be ZERO. PEP RALLY's are for practice. Game timeouts are to stop the clock at the end of half or end of game or for challenges.
Yelling at other teams players is well below HC material.
Timeouts shouldnt be used because the running back doesnt know the f**kin play, get over the "pep rally timeouts" he has done it twice
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:16 AM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I do have a big problem with PEP RALLY TIMEOUTS. That should be ZERO. PEP RALLY's are for practice. Game timeouts are to stop the clock at the end of half or end of game or for challenges.
Yelling at other teams players is well below HC material.
It's not like we are wasting them like Mike Martz. I agree with what you are saying but both times they where needed. Basically Singletary sees us losing momentum and falling apart and he tried to stop it. Nothing wrong with using them to try to turn around the game.
The timeouts WERE NOT NEEDED! A complete waste. Timeouts are for:
~ End of half.
~ End of game.
~ Challenges.
That is it period. If a HC doesn't know that he shouldn't be HC.
Wow I didn't see this. Where did you come up with these scenerios, Nolan? You seem to forget about the strategy of the game. For example, when a defense has a completely different personell package in, that the offense is not ready for I guess every coach who has called a TO is an idiot?
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:17 AM
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Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I do have a big problem with PEP RALLY TIMEOUTS. That should be ZERO. PEP RALLY's are for practice. Game timeouts are to stop the clock at the end of half or end of game or for challenges.
Yelling at other teams players is well below HC material.
Timeouts shouldnt be used because the running back doesnt know the f**kin play, get over the "pep rally timeouts" he has done it twice
Twice is 2 TOO MANY!...
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:21 AM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
SanDiego,
Is anything you post in a positive light? I read topics like this team will NOT make the playoffs and Sing making BIG MISTAKES. By those titles, it's evident that you can utilize the caps button but what else do you really contribute that hasn't already been voiced by other naysayers?
Look I'm not a homer. I'm aware this team is gonna have to work hard to make the playoffs and it's very possible that they'll fall short. But what good is it to repeat that ish over and over?
I personally don't think Sing is doing a bad job at all. He (as well as the rest of the team) fell short in the ATL prep and performance but everyone makes mistakes. Plus ATL was coming off a bye. We just saw what NO did off the bye against the Giants.
The fact that you say Nolan was a better game manager and time manager is laughable. That guy pissed away more timeouts than anyone and was even more conserative than our current approach is.
Have some faith for christ sake.
Nolan was a better game manager / timeout manager by far. I've never seen a worse timeout manger than this guy. I'd actually rather have NoWin back in those categories because quite frankly he was much better.
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:22 AM
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Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I really wonder what would have happened if message boards were around when Bill Walsh went 2-14 & 6-10 in his first two years.
OMG bring back Nolan!
The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh?
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:24 AM
- jta854
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Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I do have a big problem with PEP RALLY TIMEOUTS. That should be ZERO. PEP RALLY's are for practice. Game timeouts are to stop the clock at the end of half or end of game or for challenges.
Yelling at other teams players is well below HC material.
Timeouts shouldnt be used because the running back doesnt know the f**kin play, get over the "pep rally timeouts" he has done it twice
But other team don't use their timeouts that way so why should we.
Other teams don't send their tight end to the locker room, look how that turned out
This timeout BS is the dumbest form of "I know more then the coach" that I have ever seen.
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:24 AM
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I really wonder what would have happened if message boards were around when Bill Walsh went 2-14 & 6-10 in his first two years.
OMG bring back Nolan!
The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh?
At least on one category NoWin was better by far. He was a better game manager / timeout manager than this guy by far.
I've never seen a more clueless timeout manager than this clown.
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:24 AM
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Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
SanDiego,
Is anything you post in a positive light? I read topics like this team will NOT make the playoffs and Sing making BIG MISTAKES. By those titles, it's evident that you can utilize the caps button but what else do you really contribute that hasn't already been voiced by other naysayers?
Look I'm not a homer. I'm aware this team is gonna have to work hard to make the playoffs and it's very possible that they'll fall short. But what good is it to repeat that ish over and over?
I personally don't think Sing is doing a bad job at all. He (as well as the rest of the team) fell short in the ATL prep and performance but everyone makes mistakes. Plus ATL was coming off a bye. We just saw what NO did off the bye against the Giants.
The fact that you say Nolan was a better game manager and time manager is laughable. That guy pissed away more timeouts than anyone and was even more conserative than our current approach is.
Have some faith for christ sake.
Not one that I've ever seen. You'd think living in SD with that awesome weather would have some sort of positive effect?
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:25 AM
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When Singletary takes us to the playoffs, I want you and all the other haters to gtfo. You won't though, you'll cheer and be like "Yeah, 49ers, I'm a huge fan!!"
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:25 AM
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Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by Thrash88:
If you bring in Lebron James and you already have Caron Butler playing small forward I'm pretty sure you put in Lebron A.S.A.P. God people do you know ANYTHING about football. Crabtree is better then Morgan and Morgan has got all the chances in the world he's dropped a touchdown and ran a lazy catch to the goal line when he should have scored. You put the best people on the field I don't care about chemistry if you have a weak point. That's like saying put Barry Sims at left tackle and sit Staley because they have better chemistry omg SHUT er up rookie. You obviously do not understand football and you will see this Sunday that our team will have a gameplan and we will play a great football game and don't be suprised if Crabtree gets in the endzone, I sure won't.
p.s. I hope Singletary uses all his timeouts in the first drive and points at the screen and says hey webzone fans, EAT IT!
There is NO WAY that Crabtree knows the amount of playbook that a starter should. 2 mistakes from a 2nd year player doesn't negate the fact that Crabtree does not, and can not know the plabook. PERIOD!
Singletary has stated from day one that players will EARN their playing time.....how exactly has Crabtree done that? By catching some passes from Alex Smith during the bye? I don't think so. So now EVERY player that was buying into that BS line now see's that EARNING your play time is not the case. That all the rah rah Singeltary has been blowing up their rears is just that, smoke being blown up their rears.
Singletary better hope the team doesn't decide to hold HIM accountable for his decisions the way he does them, or he may have some difficult questions to answer.
Think about things from a different POV for just a moment
Do you think the Yorks want to see their new big shot multi-million dollar toy EARNING his time? Doubt it. Football is a business first and foremost and the Yorks are business people. I'm sure there was considerable pressure on the coaching staff over the bye week to make sure Crabtree was in position to be on the field as early and a much as possible.
While I'm not ruling out the possibility that Singletary didn't make this discussion on his own, it doesn't exactly seem like his MO. Remember Sing doesn't have the same freedom that Nolan had during his first 3 years.
Doesn't matter why Crabtree will be starting. What matters is the team now sees that this "Earn your playtime" BS is just that. I also highly doubt any of our FO personell have the stones to argue Singletary out of his stance if he was insistant that Crabtree wait.
At the end of the day, Singletary is the HC and he has final say on who plays on Sundays. He has eagerly taken the role as the face of the franchise. If he is going to allow the FO to make decisions as to who plays and who doesn't then he should not have started all his "Accountability, hard work, blah blah blah line" and his sway will lessen and lessen the more his schtick is uncovered as just that.
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:25 AM
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Originally posted by jta854:Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I do have a big problem with PEP RALLY TIMEOUTS. That should be ZERO. PEP RALLY's are for practice. Game timeouts are to stop the clock at the end of half or end of game or for challenges.
Yelling at other teams players is well below HC material.
Timeouts shouldnt be used because the running back doesnt know the f**kin play, get over the "pep rally timeouts" he has done it twice
But other team don't use their timeouts that way so why should we.
Other teams don't send their tight end to the locker room, look how that turned out
This timeout BS is the dumbest form of "I know more then the coach" that I have ever seen.
I agree that the timeout "issue" is BS
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:26 AM
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Who cares if he's a terrible coach, he can beat up any other teams' coach and that's what's important.
Oct 22, 2009 at 7:29 AM
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Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Esco:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by Thrash88:
If you bring in Lebron James and you already have Caron Butler playing small forward I'm pretty sure you put in Lebron A.S.A.P. God people do you know ANYTHING about football. Crabtree is better then Morgan and Morgan has got all the chances in the world he's dropped a touchdown and ran a lazy catch to the goal line when he should have scored. You put the best people on the field I don't care about chemistry if you have a weak point. That's like saying put Barry Sims at left tackle and sit Staley because they have better chemistry omg SHUT er up rookie. You obviously do not understand football and you will see this Sunday that our team will have a gameplan and we will play a great football game and don't be suprised if Crabtree gets in the endzone, I sure won't.
p.s. I hope Singletary uses all his timeouts in the first drive and points at the screen and says hey webzone fans, EAT IT!
There is NO WAY that Crabtree knows the amount of playbook that a starter should. 2 mistakes from a 2nd year player doesn't negate the fact that Crabtree does not, and can not know the plabook. PERIOD!
Singletary has stated from day one that players will EARN their playing time.....how exactly has Crabtree done that? By catching some passes from Alex Smith during the bye? I don't think so. So now EVERY player that was buying into that BS line now see's that EARNING your play time is not the case. That all the rah rah Singeltary has been blowing up their rears is just that, smoke being blown up their rears.
Singletary better hope the team doesn't decide to hold HIM accountable for his decisions the way he does them, or he may have some difficult questions to answer.
Think about things from a different POV for just a moment
Do you think the Yorks want to see their new big shot multi-million dollar toy EARNING his time? Doubt it. Football is a business first and foremost and the Yorks are business people. I'm sure there was considerable pressure on the coaching staff over the bye week to make sure Crabtree was in position to be on the field as early and a much as possible.
While I'm not ruling out the possibility that Singletary didn't make this discussion on his own, it doesn't exactly seem like his MO. Remember Sing doesn't have the same freedom that Nolan had during his first 3 years.
He's pretty much calling the shots on personnel and who gets playing time though.
Which is why everyone should stop jumping to conclusions on Crabtree starting. All starting means is that you line up during the initial series of the game. I've watched several interviews with Sing so far this week where he's been quoted saying that Josh will probably get more plays that Crabtree. I think the whole Crabtree starting thing is more of a publicity stunt then an actual major move. We will just have to wait and see.
Here's a link basically saying what I was getting at
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/San-Francisco-49ers-rsquo-Morgan-getting-more-p?urn=nfl,197547
Try to minimize the importance of being labled "starter" all you want, however THATS what these players strive to be. Regardless of playing time, being labled as "starter" means something to these players. GOOD players have left teams and gone on to others because of who is labled as starter and who is not, regardless of explained or predicted playing time.
Don't say it doesn't matter who starts, cause it does.