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Crabtree to start Sunday?

wait people are still defending Shaun Hill


HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE!!!
I hope we do frorce the ball to Gore, Crabs and VD thats it everyone else sucks major balls..
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by WINiner:
I would like to go on record as saying starting Crabtree right away is a poor poor choice from Coach Mike in light of what he has built this team to be since 1/2 thru last season. He has been about accountability and earning your right to start on Sundays, both of which Crabtree has not. I think this decision could undermine the Singletary plan and we could see our season unravel. I mean what exactly has Morgan done to lose his job to a rookie who's been in the building for 2 weeks? He's made some inexperience mistakes that won't happen again and that's about it.

Dropping a pass in which he was wide open (which happens), but then going to the sideline and blaming it on the fact that it came down "like a punt." What else? Slowing down on that big pass completion against the Falcons and getting caught from behind, resulting in a burned timeout. But I'd say the biggest reason is the guy runs lazy routes. I don't think Singletary wants two young guys at WR, especially with Vernon out there messing up his routes. Too high of a risk for disaster, so that's probably why he stuck with Bruce over Morgan as well. I think Morgan is better than Bruce at this point, and Bruce should be the 3rd WR, but we'll see how it turns out in Houston. It doesn't really matter who plays where or how much if the OL can't get their s**t together.

Agreed.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I hope we do frorce the ball to Gore, Crabs and VD thats it everyone else sucks major balls..

That's what we should do - get the ball to your play-makers. Although it may seem f*cked up how Crabtree slid in to a starting position, it is what it is. OUR OFFENSE SUCK PEOPLE. It's obvious that something had to be done or tried to get it crack'en. 28th in the league. Zoners who are butt-hurt over this need to get a grip. I'm for anything pro-active, that may help this team win.
[ Edited by ObePwnD on Oct 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM ]
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I hope we do frorce the ball to Gore, Crabs and VD thats it everyone else sucks major balls..

That's what we should do - get the ball to your play-makers. Although it may seem f*cked up how Crabtree slid in to a starting position, it is what it is. OUR OFFENSE SUCK PEOPLE. It's obvious that something had to be done or tried to get it crack'en. 28th in the league. Zoners who are butt-hurt over this need it get a grip. I'm for anything pro-active, that may help this team win.

all of this
Josh understands he and Crabtree will be the two main guys next year...so he's doing whatever he can to help Michael now. It shows his fine character...and that he sees the bigger picture. Agree with many, we need as many playmakers on the field as we can get. Having Crabtree and Gore on the field should be and is a priority w/Singletary. MC held out...but he kept himself in great physical shape, so when he signed, he was ready to get after it. He's bustin' his butt...and Coach knows there's no sense in him being on the sidelines when he can be out there producing. Morgan's taking one for the team...and hats off to him for doing it.



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Do you think maybe E.Parker worked some kind of deal in the contract, that Crabtree needs to have a certain amount of play time this year?
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I hope we do frorce the ball to Gore, Crabs and VD thats it everyone else sucks major balls..

That's what we should do - get the ball to your play-makers. Although it may seem f*cked up how Crabtree slid in to a starting position, it is what it is. OUR OFFENSE SUCK PEOPLE. It's obvious that something had to be done or tried to get it crack'en. 28th in the league. Zoners who are butt-hurt over this need it get a grip. I'm for anything pro-active, that may help this team win.

all of this

Good points... Crabs is playmaker material (judging from his highlight reel). More importantly, his hometown is a good place to give him that extra punch...

Also - a KEY point about coaching (and I do coach ball): Give your opponent something to think about. They may not admit it, but Houston's D is going to be thinking about Crabs all week. Take note: Frank Gore makes his return on Sunday. Can't wait to see us roll up 200+ yards rushing, while Crabs catches a couple of early passes - all to make them think. Heck, he doesn't even have to catch the first pass thrown his way - he just has to make them think we're going to use him a lot.

Football is a game of chess... Sing's playing a little chess here.
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by B650:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by B650:
I don't think Hill can force a ball to do anything.

Weird cuz, last time I checked he's what winning 2/3's of his games as an NFL starter, weird, maybe I missed something.



Coulda' sworn it was it the defense that's gotten him those victories.

He still throws 60 plus percent, he's lost one home game (as bad of a game he had the defense sucked just as bad vs HOTlanta). Shaun Hill is a decent QB, he's not Joe Montana, as much as I miss havin' that HOF QB under center, I'm more than happy with Shaun, especially after Ken Dorsey, Alex Smith, and JTO.

Quote:
week 1

9ers Drive Chart
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
12:36 2:11 SF 26 3 8 Punt
08:04 2:30 ARI 36 5 17 Field Goal
03:44 2:22 SF 44 5 24 Field Goal
14:03 3:39 SF 22 6 27 Punt
08:19 1:19 SF 27 3 9 Punt
05:26 3:03 SF 32 7 68 Touchdown
02:13 0:58 ARI 34 3 -10 Fumble
15:00 1:34 SF 20 3 4 Punt
10:29 2:08 SF 20 3 5 Punt
04:11 0:59 SF 18 3 -5 Punt
14:52 7:26 SF 20 15 80 Touchdown
05:31 2:20 SF 2 3 -1 Punt
01:51 1:08 SF 33 3 6 Punt

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week 2

49ers Drive Chart
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
13:45 8:07 SF 26 13 55 Field Goal
02:48 0:12 SF 21 1 79 Touchdown
01:26 1:37 SF 18 3 1 Punt
10:04 3:44 SF 20 7 35 Punt
05:06 2:09 SEA 43 5 18 Field Goal
00:22 0:22 SF 17 1 1 End of Half
15:00 0:11 SF 20 1 80 Touchdown
13:08 1:26 SF 26 3 8 Punt
07:31 5:01 SF 1 7 16 Punt
01:20 9:27 SF 12 16 67 Field Goal
05:38 0:27 SF 26 3 5 Punt
02:11 1:48 SF 18 3 8 Pu

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week 3

49ers Drive Chart
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
15:00 1:37 SF 23 3 -11 Punt
12:25 1:11 SF 22 3 9 Punt
08:38 1:38 SF 14 3 8 Punt
00:52 0:52 SF 8 3 5 Punt
13:09 3:43 SF 43 7 57 Touchdown
07:10 0:51 SF 38 2 -2 Interception
03:26 1:33 SF 30 4 14 Punt
12:22 2:01 SF 16 3 8 Punt
09:24 4:37 SF 39 8 42 Field Goal
04:34 2:28 SF 20 4 20 Punt
12:49 4:37 SF 20 6 80 Touchdown
05:47 2:21 SF 27 3 1 Punt
01:49 0:20 SF 47 3 6 Punt
00:02 0:02 SF 29 1 0 End of Game

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week 4

49ers Drive Chart
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
13:52 3:17 SF 34 6 17 Punt
05:13 2:47 SF 41 5 17 Punt
00:19 5:39 SF 42 9 33 Missed FG
08:13 2:46 SF 22 5 21 Punt
01:02 0:30 SF 20 3 0 Punt
15:00 2:22 SF 26 5 12 Punt
10:16 3:13 STL 48 7 48 Touchdown
03:45 0:57 SF 39 3 4 Punt
01:19 2:05 STL 43 5 43 Touchdown
08:26 4:48 SF 23 7 30 Punt
01:48 1:48 SF 30 3 1 End of Game

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week 5

49ers Drive Chart
Start
Time Time
Poss Drive
Began # of
Plays Yards
Gained Result
13:56 1:26 SF 13 3 6 Interception
11:08 1:31 SF 20 3 1 Punt
06:32 2:23 SF 22 7 78 Touchdown
14:53 3:46 SF 38 9 41 Field Goal
09:40 1:18 ATL 33 3 -3 Punt
06:59 0:08 0 0 Fumble
05:40 0:54 SF 20 3 2 Punt
01:14 1:14 SF 20 5 18 End of Half
15:00 2:08 SF 17 6 53 Missed FG
05:50 0:59 SF 24 3 6 Punt
02:45 0:51 SF 35 3 5 Punt
08:20 6:27 SF 22 12 60 Downs
00:26 0:26 SF 20 3 17 End of Game


3 games with only 2 drives of 40 yards or more. His completion percentage is at 56%. With nearly 33% of his completions going to the RB's. He has 17 first downs on 47 passing attempts (36.2%). Yet he completed 32 passes on 3rd downs. So he has almost as many completions on 3rd down that doesn't result in a 1st than he does that results in a 1st down.

Tell me again how good he is.

Does he block for himself? Or is that the O-line's job. Hill's had one bad game this season, funny cuz that same game the O-line sucked, the defense sucked, the special teams sucked, everybody but Patrick Willis sucked, so let's go bench Nate, Joe Staley, Heitmann, Franklin, Bly just everybody, but Patrick. If anyone thinks the QB is the problem I really feel sorry for you. I mean hell we don't win that first game let alone get within a Favring of winning against a team thats now 6-0 without Hill. I mean that game in Zona the O-line had what 2 drives all game. The long pass to Bruce set up Gore's first TD, and then at the end the O-line woke up and Hill who had played fine all game (couldn't tell from Dockett slamming into Arizona's fake grass could you?) drove us down the field and we won the game. Hell seriously just like Hill the defense had one bad game so let's really bench everybody on the team but P-52, whoever wants to send the memo to Coach Mike do so.

Hill has not had ONE bad game, he's had 5. You must not watch any team other then SF games, cause anyone watching more games with REAL QB's at the position could never say Hill has had only 1 bad game.
Originally posted by egoonda:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I hope we do frorce the ball to Gore, Crabs and VD thats it everyone else sucks major balls..

That's what we should do - get the ball to your play-makers. Although it may seem f*cked up how Crabtree slid in to a starting position, it is what it is. OUR OFFENSE SUCK PEOPLE. It's obvious that something had to be done or tried to get it crack'en. 28th in the league. Zoners who are butt-hurt over this need it get a grip. I'm for anything pro-active, that may help this team win.

all of this

Good points... Crabs is playmaker material (judging from his highlight reel). More importantly, his hometown is a good place to give him that extra punch...

Also - a KEY point about coaching (and I do coach ball): Give your opponent something to think about. They may not admit it, but Houston's D is going to be thinking about Crabs all week. Take note: Frank Gore makes his return on Sunday. Can't wait to see us roll up 200+ yards rushing, while Crabs catches a couple of early passes - all to make them think. Heck, he doesn't even have to catch the first pass thrown his way - he just has to make them think we're going to use him a lot.

Football is a game of chess... Sing's playing a little chess here.

There is a third play-maker in Davis. Take away the Atlanta game and he has performed very well this year.
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by egoonda:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I hope we do frorce the ball to Gore, Crabs and VD thats it everyone else sucks major balls..

That's what we should do - get the ball to your play-makers. Although it may seem f*cked up how Crabtree slid in to a starting position, it is what it is. OUR OFFENSE SUCK PEOPLE. It's obvious that something had to be done or tried to get it crack'en. 28th in the league. Zoners who are butt-hurt over this need it get a grip. I'm for anything pro-active, that may help this team win.

all of this

Good points... Crabs is playmaker material (judging from his highlight reel). More importantly, his hometown is a good place to give him that extra punch...

Also - a KEY point about coaching (and I do coach ball): Give your opponent something to think about. They may not admit it, but Houston's D is going to be thinking about Crabs all week. Take note: Frank Gore makes his return on Sunday. Can't wait to see us roll up 200+ yards rushing, while Crabs catches a couple of early passes - all to make them think. Heck, he doesn't even have to catch the first pass thrown his way - he just has to make them think we're going to use him a lot.

Football is a game of chess... Sing's playing a little chess here.

There is a third play-maker in Davis. Take away the Atlanta game and he has performed very well this year.

Like in all honesty, with an un-biased opinion....how many catches/yards do you guys think Crabtree will actually have this Sunday?

I'de be surprised if he gets more than 2 catches, 20 yards.

You can't forget that he now faces NFL corners that can and may force him out of his routes...I just hope Crabs dont have any major-communication with Shuan Hill that leads into a costly INT.
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FOR THE LAST TIME, CRABTREE IS FROM DALLAS. Enough of the hometown deal, his hometown is 250 miles from Houston. People act like Texas is Rhode Island or something. Sorry, I'm just tired of hearing this angle from fans and the media.

As far as impact, I'll say 3 catches for 28 yards, one of them being a play over 10. Nothing leads me to beleive he'll do anything other than a few screens and we don't call passing plays over 12 yards more than once a game. I'm pretty sure Houston's DC knows this too, look for him to be mugged at the LOS and quickly tackled on screens. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that he does break a tackle or two for the "big" 10 yard gain.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by egoonda:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by ObePwnD:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I hope we do frorce the ball to Gore, Crabs and VD thats it everyone else sucks major balls..

That's what we should do - get the ball to your play-makers. Although it may seem f*cked up how Crabtree slid in to a starting position, it is what it is. OUR OFFENSE SUCK PEOPLE. It's obvious that something had to be done or tried to get it crack'en. 28th in the league. Zoners who are butt-hurt over this need it get a grip. I'm for anything pro-active, that may help this team win.

all of this

Good points... Crabs is playmaker material (judging from his highlight reel). More importantly, his hometown is a good place to give him that extra punch...

Also - a KEY point about coaching (and I do coach ball): Give your opponent something to think about. They may not admit it, but Houston's D is going to be thinking about Crabs all week. Take note: Frank Gore makes his return on Sunday. Can't wait to see us roll up 200+ yards rushing, while Crabs catches a couple of early passes - all to make them think. Heck, he doesn't even have to catch the first pass thrown his way - he just has to make them think we're going to use him a lot.

Football is a game of chess... Sing's playing a little chess here.

There is a third play-maker in Davis. Take away the Atlanta game and he has performed very well this year.

Like in all honesty, with an un-biased opinion....how many catches/yards do you guys think Crabtree will actually have this Sunday?

I'de be surprised if he gets more than 2 catches, 20 yards.

You can't forget that he now faces NFL corners that can and may force him out of his routes...I just hope Crabs dont have any major-communication with Shuan Hill that leads into a costly INT.

Maybe 3-5 catches for 40-60 yrds.
Originally posted by TX9R:
FOR THE LAST TIME, CRABTREE IS FROM DALLAS. Enough of the hometown deal, his hometown is 250 miles from Houston. People act like Texas is Rhode Island or something. Sorry, I'm just tired of hearing this angle from fans and the media.

As far as impact, I'll say 3 catches for 28 yards, one of them being a play over 10. Nothing leads me to beleive he'll do anything other than a few screens and we don't call passing plays over 12 yards more than once a game. I'm pretty sure Houston's DC knows this too, look for him to be mugged at the LOS and quickly tackled on screens. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that he does break a tackle or two for the "big" 10 yard gain.