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I don't understand why everyone wants Hill benched

Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Before Sunday's game, Hill had better numbers and more yards than Matt Ryan.


Just a thought.


Still pimping for your boy Hill after he showed again why he is Captain Wounded Duck? Pathetic.

LOL, I like the name.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Also all you people saying that Smith is more athletic and better than Hill than why didn't he win the starting job? If he was that good he would have easily beat out Hill for the starting job.

thats because singletary went with the guy who won gms for us and got him the job. smith has the better talent overall and can make every throw hill cant make.
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
One bad game? He has had 4 bad games and one horrendous one. Why are we accepting this bum who obviously can't make thrown as a starter. Just because he plays OK? He takes sacks, fumbles the ball, and can't throw deep passes. He is not physically able to compete in this league. Why do you think we are so bad at 3rd and longs? Hill can't connect to anything deep.
Those passes that some WRs drop are because of Ducks balls. For instance, Morgans deep bomb drop against St Louis was a duck. So was the TD he threw right after that to Morgan. He was wide open but had to make a play because of a s**tty throw.

Hill is a good game manager, and he is tough and competitive. But he really does lack skills to help us win. Even though Alex Smith isn't good he may be a better option then Hill at this point.

Odd, isn't Hill's record like 9-3 or something? Look everyone knows Hill is not the long-term guy, but he's the guy who gives us the best chance of winning this year. This offseason the 49ers may have a shot at one of the premier QB's if they don't believe in Nate Davis, and they will also have a chance to upgrade that o-line. It's not like Hill had time to throw against Atlanta. I mean for crying out loud Matt Ryan could have checked his e-mail on some of those passing plays.

That being said, everyone knows Hill can't compete with Matt Ryan, and that was proven in spades on Sunday.

This is a team sport. Yes, the team is 9-3 when Hill is starting. There are many factors in wins and losses besides who is the starter. But the main thing to remember is out of those 9 wins, can you remember a game where Hill made a hell of a play or won the game for us? Can you remember him dominating an opponent.

I am plainly saying that Hill = Smith except Smith is much more physically talented. We could use those talents to get some first downs and maybe some TDs.

what about those two 80 yard drives against the cards and vikings we would have won against the vikings if it wasn't for favre

They don't want to acknowledge that because we won 1 of those games and should have won the other.

I'll acknowledge the game winning drives if you acknowledge that besides those two drives he played like total crap.

We will acknowledge that he played like crap if you admit that Smith has played like crap his whole career.

I have been acknowledging that in several of my posts in this thread. Smith has played like crap just as Hill has.

Yeah it was a team meltdown Sunday and those were team victories before. Hill isn't able to compete in this league. This is why the play calling is so pathetic. Hill can't make throws. Why can't you people see that. Don't you see that he can't hit the out route. Not even close. The ball barely reaches the WR feet after a bounce on out routes.

So the answer is to chose the worst of the two evils?

The answer is to try a different evil. Cause evil #1 is not working. Lets see if evil #2 can do something. Unless you are content with having a 30% 3rd down conversion and a bottom 5 offense.
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
One bad game? He has had 4 bad games and one horrendous one. Why are we accepting this bum who obviously can't make thrown as a starter. Just because he plays OK? He takes sacks, fumbles the ball, and can't throw deep passes. He is not physically able to compete in this league. Why do you think we are so bad at 3rd and longs? Hill can't connect to anything deep.
Those passes that some WRs drop are because of Ducks balls. For instance, Morgans deep bomb drop against St Louis was a duck. So was the TD he threw right after that to Morgan. He was wide open but had to make a play because of a s**tty throw.

Hill is a good game manager, and he is tough and competitive. But he really does lack skills to help us win. Even though Alex Smith isn't good he may be a better option then Hill at this point.

Put Hill on most other teams is he better than who they have ? is he even as good, go through the league, I'd say no freakin' way , so those that think he's a good player on a bad team that's holding back his talent , if you think his play is acceptable, watch the game from last night and ask yourself could Hill make those throws a rookie and a back up (now starter)have more skills than Hill will ever have and he's pushing 30 , if I'm wrong , I'll be the first to admit it.
Everyone wants Hill benched after one bad game because....

It's Niner Talk.
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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by verb1der:
I don't understand why people just can't admit that Hill sucks.

Maybe because he's got a pretty decent record as a starter. Or the fact that he doesn't turn the ball over with stupid plays. Look at the o-line and blame them for Hill getting sacked or running around with his head cut off.

No don't get me wrong, I'm not putting all the blame on Hill. He's made some plays, but he leaves a lot of yards on the field when Raye calls for pass plays (last Sunday was a good example), and there were definitely plays where the o-line has held up and Hill was just totally inaccurate.

It's about consistency.

"It came down like a punt!" ~Josh Morgan. LMAO

Regardless, Hill sucks. But I'll support him as long as the team does.

Yeah but sing asked him if it hit his hands and he said it did so if it hits your hands you have to catch it!





That's a good one.

Oh, you were being serious?
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
One bad game? He has had 4 bad games and one horrendous one. Why are we accepting this bum who obviously can't make thrown as a starter. Just because he plays OK? He takes sacks, fumbles the ball, and can't throw deep passes. He is not physically able to compete in this league. Why do you think we are so bad at 3rd and longs? Hill can't connect to anything deep.
Those passes that some WRs drop are because of Ducks balls. For instance, Morgans deep bomb drop against St Louis was a duck. So was the TD he threw right after that to Morgan. He was wide open but had to make a play because of a s**tty throw.

Hill is a good game manager, and he is tough and competitive. But he really does lack skills to help us win. Even though Alex Smith isn't good he may be a better option then Hill at this point.

Odd, isn't Hill's record like 9-3 or something? Look everyone knows Hill is not the long-term guy, but he's the guy who gives us the best chance of winning this year. This offseason the 49ers may have a shot at one of the premier QB's if they don't believe in Nate Davis, and they will also have a chance to upgrade that o-line. It's not like Hill had time to throw against Atlanta. I mean for crying out loud Matt Ryan could have checked his e-mail on some of those passing plays.

That being said, everyone knows Hill can't compete with Matt Ryan, and that was proven in spades on Sunday.

This is a team sport. Yes, the team is 9-3 when Hill is starting. There are many factors in wins and losses besides who is the starter. But the main thing to remember is out of those 9 wins, can you remember a game where Hill made a hell of a play or won the game for us? Can you remember him dominating an opponent.

I am plainly saying that Hill = Smith except Smith is much more physically talented. We could use those talents to get some first downs and maybe some TDs.

what about those two 80 yard drives against the cards and vikings we would have won against the vikings if it wasn't for favre

They don't want to acknowledge that because we won 1 of those games and should have won the other.

We would have won if it wasn't for Favre? We were not even in that game if it were not for a 10 point play at the end of the half. Aside from one drive Shaun Hill was HORRIBLE all day in that game. Doing the same things he's been doing in every game this year. That game was all Defense and Special Teams, the only reason the game was even close and Favre had an opportunity to make that play. Otherwise it would have been a blowout. If McDonald doesn't block that short FG it's 16-7 at the half instead of 14-13 and we're not even going to make it close.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
One bad game? He has had 4 bad games and one horrendous one. Why are we accepting this bum who obviously can't make thrown as a starter. Just because he plays OK? He takes sacks, fumbles the ball, and can't throw deep passes. He is not physically able to compete in this league. Why do you think we are so bad at 3rd and longs? Hill can't connect to anything deep.
Those passes that some WRs drop are because of Ducks balls. For instance, Morgans deep bomb drop against St Louis was a duck. So was the TD he threw right after that to Morgan. He was wide open but had to make a play because of a s**tty throw.

Hill is a good game manager, and he is tough and competitive. But he really does lack skills to help us win. Even though Alex Smith isn't good he may be a better option then Hill at this point.

Odd, isn't Hill's record like 9-3 or something? Look everyone knows Hill is not the long-term guy, but he's the guy who gives us the best chance of winning this year. This offseason the 49ers may have a shot at one of the premier QB's if they don't believe in Nate Davis, and they will also have a chance to upgrade that o-line. It's not like Hill had time to throw against Atlanta. I mean for crying out loud Matt Ryan could have checked his e-mail on some of those passing plays.

That being said, everyone knows Hill can't compete with Matt Ryan, and that was proven in spades on Sunday.

This is a team sport. Yes, the team is 9-3 when Hill is starting. There are many factors in wins and losses besides who is the starter. But the main thing to remember is out of those 9 wins, can you remember a game where Hill made a hell of a play or won the game for us? Can you remember him dominating an opponent.

I am plainly saying that Hill = Smith except Smith is much more physically talented. We could use those talents to get some first downs and maybe some TDs.

what about those two 80 yard drives against the cards and vikings we would have won against the vikings if it wasn't for favre

They don't want to acknowledge that because we won 1 of those games and should have won the other.

I'll acknowledge the game winning drives if you acknowledge that besides those two drives he played like total crap.

We will acknowledge that he played like crap if you admit that Smith has played like crap his whole career.

I have been acknowledging that in several of my posts in this thread. Smith has played like crap just as Hill has.

Yeah it was a team meltdown Sunday and those were team victories before. Hill isn't able to compete in this league. This is why the play calling is so pathetic. Hill can't make throws. Why can't you people see that. Don't you see that he can't hit the out route. Not even close. The ball barely reaches the WR feet after a bounce on out routes.

So the answer is to chose the worst of the two evils?

The answer is to try a different evil. Cause evil #1 is not working. Lets see if evil #2 can do something. Unless you are content with having a 30% 3rd down conversion and a bottom 5 offense.

I am content winning more games than losing. Look don't get me wrong. I actually don't think very much about Hill. I just don't see why people are ready to bench a guy who has been more successful than any QB we have had in the past 6 years. The biggest problem we have is our Oline. They are not opening any holes and can't block anybody right now. Smith best season came when gore had over 1500 yards. He still didn't look good in the pocket. If he was the type of guy, as a rookie, that would run around and make plays I would agree. But all he ever did with pressure was turn the ball over. Again and Again.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Before Sunday's game, Hill had better numbers and more yards than Matt Ryan.


Just a thought.

Maybe because he played 1 more game. ATL had a bye week. Hill still has 1 more game under his belt but Ryan has more yards, more td's, and better comp %.

Just saying.
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Before Sunday's game, Hill had better numbers and more yards than Matt Ryan.


Just a thought.


Still pimping for your boy Hill after he showed again why he is Captain Wounded Duck? Pathetic.

LOL, I like the name.

I thought about Major Wounded Duck, but settle for Captain.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
One bad game? He has had 4 bad games and one horrendous one. Why are we accepting this bum who obviously can't make thrown as a starter. Just because he plays OK? He takes sacks, fumbles the ball, and can't throw deep passes. He is not physically able to compete in this league. Why do you think we are so bad at 3rd and longs? Hill can't connect to anything deep.
Those passes that some WRs drop are because of Ducks balls. For instance, Morgans deep bomb drop against St Louis was a duck. So was the TD he threw right after that to Morgan. He was wide open but had to make a play because of a s**tty throw.

Hill is a good game manager, and he is tough and competitive. But he really does lack skills to help us win. Even though Alex Smith isn't good he may be a better option then Hill at this point.

Odd, isn't Hill's record like 9-3 or something? Look everyone knows Hill is not the long-term guy, but he's the guy who gives us the best chance of winning this year. This offseason the 49ers may have a shot at one of the premier QB's if they don't believe in Nate Davis, and they will also have a chance to upgrade that o-line. It's not like Hill had time to throw against Atlanta. I mean for crying out loud Matt Ryan could have checked his e-mail on some of those passing plays.

That being said, everyone knows Hill can't compete with Matt Ryan, and that was proven in spades on Sunday.

This is a team sport. Yes, the team is 9-3 when Hill is starting. There are many factors in wins and losses besides who is the starter. But the main thing to remember is out of those 9 wins, can you remember a game where Hill made a hell of a play or won the game for us? Can you remember him dominating an opponent.

I am plainly saying that Hill = Smith except Smith is much more physically talented. We could use those talents to get some first downs and maybe some TDs.

what about those two 80 yard drives against the cards and vikings we would have won against the vikings if it wasn't for favre

They don't want to acknowledge that because we won 1 of those games and should have won the other.

We would have won if it wasn't for Favre? We were not even in that game if it were not for a 10 point play at the end of the half. Aside from one drive Shaun Hill was HORRIBLE all day in that game. Doing the same things he's been doing in every game this year. That game was all Defense and Special Teams, the only reason the game was even close and Favre had an opportunity to make that play. Otherwise it would have been a blowout. If McDonald doesn't block that short FG it's 16-7 at the half instead of 14-13 and we're not even going to make it close.

Oh you must have forgotten about his 2 TD's to Vernon. His 4th and 1 conversion to Morgan. Standing in the pocket after being hit by Jarred Alan all game. Staley went out. He played bad alright. What are you guys smoking on?
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Before Sunday's game, Hill had better numbers and more yards than Matt Ryan.


Just a thought.


Still pimping for your boy Hill after he showed again why he is Captain Wounded Duck? Pathetic.

LOL, I like the name.

I thought about Major Wounded Duck, but settle for Captain.

I just can't get over Josh Morgan telling Sing "It came down like a punt!" ...that is frickin hilarious!
Originally posted by JD81:
Everyone wants Hill benched after one bad game because....

It's Niner Talk.

Best explanation yet. Niner Talk is like a drug. I tell myself to stop going to it, but I keep torturing myself by clicking on its threads
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Squirrel:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Before Sunday's game, Hill had better numbers and more yards than Matt Ryan.


Just a thought.


Still pimping for your boy Hill after he showed again why he is Captain Wounded Duck? Pathetic.

LOL, I like the name.

I thought about Major Wounded Duck, but settle for Captain.

I just can't get over Josh Morgan telling Sing "It came down like a punt!" ...that is frickin hilarious!


But, it hit him in the hands, so he has to catch it.
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