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I don't understand why everyone wants Hill benched

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
After one bad game by Hill and his 1st loss at home I don't understand why everyone wants Singletary to bench Hill.

After 5 straight bad games. The last one was just the worst.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Most of you people want Alex Smith to come in but what about all the bad years Smith gave us and Hill has ONE bad game and you guys want him benched.

Again, 5 bad games. And Smith hasn't even had TWO full healthy years as a starter. If you throw out his rookie year, when the 9ers were the worst team in football, he's barely had over one year as a starter. So what are you talking about when you say "all the bad years"?
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Because people are wanting to see offensive domination, and hoping that Smith somehow clicks over to being real good like a light switch. I don't think it is reality, but more power to the dreamers.

People don't want to see domination. We want to see conversions of 3rd downs to keep the chains moving. Maybe some 3rd and shorts for a change?

Just because some want to see Smith doesn't mean we want to air it out all of a sudden. I think Smith can handle dump offs, quick TE hits, and quick WR hits to the outside like Hill is doing. He can also handle those WR out routes that Hill can barely reach to their feet.

I refuse to believe that because he would be starting if that was the case.
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
I want Jimmy Raye to take a nap and never wake up. Well at least until the season is over
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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
After one bad game by Hill and his 1st loss at home I don't understand why everyone wants Singletary to bench Hill. Most of you people want Alex Smith to come in but what about all the bad years Smith gave us and Hill has ONE bad game and you guys want him benched.


You mean the (approximately) two-and-a-half years where he played? Yeah, that's a lot of bad years. . . .

But, I digress. Neither one of our top quarterbacks have what it takes to make our offense elite. Until we get a top-tier quarterback, we'll suffer watching the sh!t that's on the field.

As for your boy Hill, the Falcons game showed him for what he really is: A backup pretending to be a starter.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by verb1der:
I don't understand why people just can't admit that Hill sucks.

Maybe because he's got a pretty decent record as a starter. Or the fact that he doesn't turn the ball over with stupid plays. Look at the o-line and blame them for Hill getting sacked or running around with his head cut off.

Hill hasn't even played a full season in his career (16 games).....Sanchez has a pretty decent record as a starter as well.
Originally posted by verb1der:
I don't understand why people just can't admit that Hill sucks.

Hill does pretty much suck. But the sad part is he is the best we got.
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
One bad game? He has had 4 bad games and one horrendous one. Why are we accepting this bum who obviously can't make thrown as a starter. Just because he plays OK? He takes sacks, fumbles the ball, and can't throw deep passes. He is not physically able to compete in this league. Why do you think we are so bad at 3rd and longs? Hill can't connect to anything deep.
Those passes that some WRs drop are because of Ducks balls. For instance, Morgans deep bomb drop against St Louis was a duck. So was the TD he threw right after that to Morgan. He was wide open but had to make a play because of a s**tty throw.

Hill is a good game manager, and he is tough and competitive. But he really does lack skills to help us win. Even though Alex Smith isn't good he may be a better option then Hill at this point.

Odd, isn't Hill's record like 9-3 or something? Look everyone knows Hill is not the long-term guy, but he's the guy who gives us the best chance of winning this year. This offseason the 49ers may have a shot at one of the premier QB's if they don't believe in Nate Davis, and they will also have a chance to upgrade that o-line. It's not like Hill had time to throw against Atlanta. I mean for crying out loud Matt Ryan could have checked his e-mail on some of those passing plays.

That being said, everyone knows Hill can't compete with Matt Ryan, and that was proven in spades on Sunday.

This is a team sport. Yes, the team is 9-3 when Hill is starting. There are many factors in wins and losses besides who is the starter. But the main thing to remember is out of those 9 wins, can you remember a game where Hill made a hell of a play or won the game for us? Can you remember him dominating an opponent.

I am plainly saying that Hill = Smith except Smith is much more physically talented. We could use those talents to get some first downs and maybe some TDs.

what about those two 80 yard drives against the cards and vikings we would have won against the vikings if it wasn't for favre

They don't want to acknowledge that because we won 1 of those games and should have won the other.

I'll acknowledge the game winning drives if you acknowledge that besides those two drives he played like total crap.

We will acknowledge that he played like crap if you admit that Smith has played like crap his whole career.

I have been acknowledging that in several of my posts in this thread. Smith has played like crap just as Hill has.

Yeah it was a team meltdown Sunday and those were team victories before. Hill isn't able to compete in this league. This is why the play calling is so pathetic. Hill can't make throws. Why can't you people see that. Don't you see that he can't hit the out route. Not even close. The ball barely reaches the WR feet after a bounce on out routes.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
After one bad game by Hill and his 1st loss at home I don't understand why everyone wants Singletary to bench Hill.

After 5 straight bad games. The last one was just the worst.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Most of you people want Alex Smith to come in but what about all the bad years Smith gave us and Hill has ONE bad game and you guys want him benched.

Again, 5 bad games. And Smith hasn't even had TWO full healthy years as a starter. If you throw out his rookie year, when the 9ers were the worst team in football, he's barely had over one year as a starter. So what are you talking about when you say "all the bad years"?

We were 3-2 and should have been 4-1. He put scores on the board vs the Cardinal and a tough Minnesota defense. How the hell are those bad games?

Stop being biased.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
One bad game? He has had 4 bad games and one horrendous one. Why are we accepting this bum who obviously can't make thrown as a starter. Just because he plays OK? He takes sacks, fumbles the ball, and can't throw deep passes. He is not physically able to compete in this league. Why do you think we are so bad at 3rd and longs? Hill can't connect to anything deep.
Those passes that some WRs drop are because of Ducks balls. For instance, Morgans deep bomb drop against St Louis was a duck. So was the TD he threw right after that to Morgan. He was wide open but had to make a play because of a s**tty throw.

Hill is a good game manager, and he is tough and competitive. But he really does lack skills to help us win. Even though Alex Smith isn't good he may be a better option then Hill at this point.

Odd, isn't Hill's record like 9-3 or something? Look everyone knows Hill is not the long-term guy, but he's the guy who gives us the best chance of winning this year. This offseason the 49ers may have a shot at one of the premier QB's if they don't believe in Nate Davis, and they will also have a chance to upgrade that o-line. It's not like Hill had time to throw against Atlanta. I mean for crying out loud Matt Ryan could have checked his e-mail on some of those passing plays.

That being said, everyone knows Hill can't compete with Matt Ryan, and that was proven in spades on Sunday.

This is a team sport. Yes, the team is 9-3 when Hill is starting. There are many factors in wins and losses besides who is the starter. But the main thing to remember is out of those 9 wins, can you remember a game where Hill made a hell of a play or won the game for us? Can you remember him dominating an opponent.

I am plainly saying that Hill = Smith except Smith is much more physically talented. We could use those talents to get some first downs and maybe some TDs.

what about those two 80 yard drives against the cards and vikings we would have won against the vikings if it wasn't for favre

They don't want to acknowledge that because we won 1 of those games and should have won the other.

I'll acknowledge the game winning drives if you acknowledge that besides those two drives he played like total crap.

We will acknowledge that he played like crap if you admit that Smith has played like crap his whole career.

I have been acknowledging that in several of my posts in this thread. Smith has played like crap just as Hill has.

Yeah it was a team meltdown Sunday and those were team victories before. Hill isn't able to compete in this league. This is why the play calling is so pathetic. Hill can't make throws. Why can't you people see that. Don't you see that he can't hit the out route. Not even close. The ball barely reaches the WR feet after a bounce on out routes.

So the answer is to chose the worst of the two evils?
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Originally posted by susweel:
Its only because people have forgotten the stench of watching Alex "loser" Smith play. Some people seem to think that he magically has gotten better.


He can't be much worse than Hill. Game manager my a$$. Hill just manages to suck.
Also all you people saying that Smith is more athletic and better than Hill than why didn't he win the starting job? If he was that good he would have easily beat out Hill for the starting job.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by verb1der:
I don't understand why people just can't admit that Hill sucks.

Maybe because he's got a pretty decent record as a starter. Or the fact that he doesn't turn the ball over with stupid plays. Look at the o-line and blame them for Hill getting sacked or running around with his head cut off.

No don't get me wrong, I'm not putting all the blame on Hill. He's made some plays, but he leaves a lot of yards on the field when Raye calls for pass plays (last Sunday was a good example), and there were definitely plays where the o-line has held up and Hill was just totally inaccurate.

It's about consistency.

"It came down like a punt!" ~Josh Morgan. LMAO

Regardless, Hill sucks. But I'll support him as long as the team does.

[ Edited by verb1der on Oct 13, 2009 at 12:04:26 ]
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Also all you people saying that Smith is more athletic and better than Hill than why didn't he win the starting job? If he was that good he would have easily beat out Hill for the starting job.

Because Hill has the better record! and was projected to be the starter long before the niners started camp. Sing needed/wanted a competition.

I saw Hill and Smith in training camp... and I would have went with Smith... the zip on the balls and flight of the ball was more NFL equivalent. Hill... well... wounded ducks and no velocity.

[ Edited by RYPTOUT on Oct 13, 2009 at 12:06:39 ]
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Before Sunday's game, Hill had better numbers and more yards than Matt Ryan.


Just a thought.


Still pimping for your boy Hill after he showed again why he is Captain Wounded Duck? Pathetic.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by verb1der:
I don't understand why people just can't admit that Hill sucks.

Maybe because he's got a pretty decent record as a starter. Or the fact that he doesn't turn the ball over with stupid plays. Look at the o-line and blame them for Hill getting sacked or running around with his head cut off.

No don't get me wrong, I'm not putting all the blame on Hill. He's made some plays, but he leaves a lot of yards on the field when Raye calls for pass plays (last Sunday was a good example), and there were definitely plays where the o-line has held up and Hill was just totally inaccurate.

It's about consistency.

"It came down like a punt!" ~Josh Morgan. LMAO

Regardless, Hill sucks. But I'll support him as long as the team does.

Yeah but sing asked him if it hit his hands and he said it did so if it hits your hands you have to catch it!
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