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Oct 9, 2009 at 5:49 PM
- SoCal9ers
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Break it down...!!!
Oct 9, 2009 at 6:47 PM
- tohara3
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Great post! I have faith in our front office to get the right guys signed. With Singletary as head coach I can see players taking less money to stay or come here as free agents.
Oct 9, 2009 at 6:55 PM
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good stuff
Oct 10, 2009 at 6:09 AM
- insanemike27
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I believe they will give ray mcdonald a contract extension and so will they for manny lawson.
Oct 10, 2009 at 6:28 AM
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Originally posted by oldman9er:Originally posted by ruthless49er:
Great breakdown old. I do gotta say though ur analysis of Franklin is kinda on the pessimistic side. Hes been playing amazing. every single game that ive seen hes been the biggest reason for pockets and holes collapsing. But its cool 4 games right. lets see where hes at 8-10 games into teh season before we really crank up the contract extension talks
Well thanks all... I know anyone can find contract numbers, but I like having them all together in one click of a key. The only contract right now that has me curious is for Franklin. Even I would like to retain him, but I think he's gonna want 5+ million a year... and that's scary.
Hey! It may be scary, but how long have we been waiting for a decent NT? We need to hang on to him if he continued to play like this.
And Brooks. We need to keep him. If he keeps his mind on the game he has a great future
Oct 10, 2009 at 6:38 AM
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Originally posted by oldman9er:Originally posted by ruthless49er:
Great breakdown old. I do gotta say though ur analysis of Franklin is kinda on the pessimistic side. Hes been playing amazing. every single game that ive seen hes been the biggest reason for pockets and holes collapsing. But its cool 4 games right. lets see where hes at 8-10 games into teh season before we really crank up the contract extension talks
Well thanks all... I know anyone can find contract numbers, but I like having them all together in one click of a key. The only contract right now that has me curious is for Franklin. Even I would like to retain him, but I think he's gonna want 5+ million a year... and that's scary.
Terrence Cody @NT next year
Oct 10, 2009 at 7:53 PM
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With the defense in mind...I see us needing to address ss or fs. M lewis worries me. I love him a player, however, with his style of play, the concussions are a concern. Still not sold on D.G yet. I guess we'll see how the year plays out.
Oct 12, 2009 at 7:08 PM
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wanted to finish this out...
Shaun Hill - QB - 2/4/2008: Signed a three-year, $6 million contract. The deal included a $1.95 million signing bonus. Another $5.5 million is available through incentives. 2009: $1.4 million, 2010: $1.5 million, 2011: Free Agent. Cap charges: $2.05 million (2009), $2.15 million (2010).
Alex Smith - QB - 3/10/2009: Signed a two-year, $6.5 million contract. Another $4 million is available through incentives. 2009-2010: Under Contract, 2011: Free Agent. Cap charge: $5.67 million (2009).
Nate Davis - QB - 7/23/2009: Signed a four-year, $1.9003 million contract. The deal included a $150,300 signing bonus. 2009: $310,000, 2010: $395,000, 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent
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Frank Gore - RB - 3/27/2007: Signed a four-year, $28.012 million contract extension through 2011. The deal included a $6.5 million signing bonus, a $4.165 million option bonus in the second year, and annual $100,000 workout bonuses in 2009-2011. Gore's 2009 base salary is guaranteed. 2009: $2.5 million (+ $1.75 million roster bonus), 2010: $2.85 million (+ $1.85 million roster bonus), 2011: $2.9 million (+ $2 million roster bonus), 2012: Free Agent. Cap charges: $6.3 million (2009), $6.9 million (2010), $7 million (2011).
Glen Coffee - RB - 7/27/2009: Signed a four-year, $2.578 million contract. The deal included an $828,250 signing bonus. 2009: $310,000, 2010: $395,000, 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent
Mike Robinson - RB - 2/28/2008: Signed a three-year, $3.525 million contract extension through 2012. The deal included a $1.2 million signing bonus. 2009: $535,000, 2010: $650,000, 2011: $750,000, 2012: $850,000, 2013: Free Agent
Morran Norris - FB - 2/28/2008: Signed a three-year, $3.525 million contract extension through 2012. The deal included a $1.2 million signing bonus. 2009: $535,000, 2010: $650,000, 2011: $750,000, 2012: $850,000, 2013: Free Agent
Joe Staley - LT - 6/4/2009: Signed a nine-year, $43.66 million contract. The deal includes $18 million guaranteed. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2009: Under Contract (+ $12.2 million roster bonus), 2010-2015: Under Contract, 2016: $4.9 million, 2017: $5.75 million, 2018: Free Agent. Cap charge: $13.5 million (2009).
David Baas - LG - 2009: $666,875, 2010: Free Agent
Eric Heitmann - OC - 9/??/2008: Signed a four-year, $8.24 million contract. The deal included a $1.25 million signing bonus. 2009: $800,000 (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2010: $1.4 million (+ $300,000 roster bonus), 2011: $1.95 million (+ $300,000 roster bonus), 2012: Free agent
Chilo Rachal - RG - 7/16/2008: Signed a four-year, $3.514 million contract. The deal contains $1.8 million guaranteed, including a $1.49 million signing bonus and a $73,000 first-year roster bonus. 2009: $460,000, 2010: $552,000, 2011: $644,000, 2012: Free Agent
Adam Snyder - RT - 9/21/2006: Signed a four-year, $10.5 million contract extension through 2011. The deal included a $4 million signing bonus. 2009: $1.4 million, 2010: $1.65 million, 2011: $2 million, 2012: Free Agent
Barry Sims - LT - 6/23/2008: Signed a two-year, $4.2 million contract. The deal included a $600,000 signing bonus and contains $1.4 million in "likely to be earned" incentives. 2009: $870,000, 2010: Free Agent
Tony Wragge - OG - 3/25/2009: Signed a two-year contract. 2009: $620,000, 2010: Under Contract, 2011: Free Agent
Cody Wallace - OC/OG - 7/23/2008: Signed a four-year, $2.193 million contract. The deal included a $488,000 signing bonus. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $470,000, 2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent
Tony Pashos - OT - 9/7/2009: Signed a one-year contract.
Vernon Davis - TE - 7/28/2006: Signed a five-year, $23 million contract. The deal contains $15.2 million guaranteed, including an initial roster bonus of $1.885 million and a $9.36 million option bonus. 2009: $1.44 million, 2010: $1.98 million, 2011: Free Agent. Cap charges: $3.78 million (2009), $4.32 million (2010).
Delanie Walker - TE - 6/22/2008: Signed a six-year, $5.25 million contract. The deal included a $1.8 million signing bonus. Another $725,000 is available through incentives. 2009: $535,000, 2010: $655,000, 2011: $750,000, 2012: $1.045 million, 2013: Free Agent
Brian Jennings - LS/TE - 6/6/2009: Signed a five-year contract extension through 2014. 2009: $745,000, 2010-2014: Under Contract, 2015: Free Agent
Michael Crabtree - WR - 10/7/2009: Signed a six-year, $32 million contract. The deal includes $17 million guaranteed. Another $8 million is available through incentives. The contract can void to five years based on "unlikely to be earned" Pro Bowl and playing-time triggers. 2009-2013: Under Contract, 2014: $4 million (Voidable Year), 2015: Free Agent
Isaac Bruce - WR - 2/29/2008: Signed a two-year, $5.5 million contract. The deal contains $2.55 million guaranteed, including a $1 million signing bonus. 2009: $1.475 million, 2010: Free Agent. Cap charge: $3 million (2009).
Josh Morgan - WR - 6/19/2008: Signed a four-year, $1.811 million contract. The deal included a $106,000 signing bonus. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $470,000, 2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent
Brandon Jones - WR - 2/28/2009: Signed a five-year, $16.5 million contract. The deal includes $5.4 million guaranteed. 2009-2012: Under Contract, 2013: $3.375 million, 2014: Free Agent
Jason Hill - WR - 7/26/2007: Signed a four-year, $2.27 million contract. The deal included a $603,000 signing bonus. 2009: $460,000, 2010: $550,000, 2011: Free Agent
Arnaz Battle - WR - 2009: $1.49 million, 2010: Free Agent
Mike Spurlock - WR - 1/23/2009: Signed a reserve/future contract. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $470,000
Joe Nedney - PK - 4/16/2009: Signed a three-year contract.
Andy Lee - P - 3/7/2007: Signed a six-year, $7.1 million contract. Details
Shaun Hill - QB - 2/4/2008: Signed a three-year, $6 million contract. The deal included a $1.95 million signing bonus. Another $5.5 million is available through incentives. 2009: $1.4 million, 2010: $1.5 million, 2011: Free Agent. Cap charges: $2.05 million (2009), $2.15 million (2010).
Alex Smith - QB - 3/10/2009: Signed a two-year, $6.5 million contract. Another $4 million is available through incentives. 2009-2010: Under Contract, 2011: Free Agent. Cap charge: $5.67 million (2009).
Nate Davis - QB - 7/23/2009: Signed a four-year, $1.9003 million contract. The deal included a $150,300 signing bonus. 2009: $310,000, 2010: $395,000, 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent
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Frank Gore - RB - 3/27/2007: Signed a four-year, $28.012 million contract extension through 2011. The deal included a $6.5 million signing bonus, a $4.165 million option bonus in the second year, and annual $100,000 workout bonuses in 2009-2011. Gore's 2009 base salary is guaranteed. 2009: $2.5 million (+ $1.75 million roster bonus), 2010: $2.85 million (+ $1.85 million roster bonus), 2011: $2.9 million (+ $2 million roster bonus), 2012: Free Agent. Cap charges: $6.3 million (2009), $6.9 million (2010), $7 million (2011).
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Perfect contract length and appropriate cost for our stud RB. I expect Gore to live up to it in full, but am not really expecting him to be an every down back 4 years from now. Whatever happens down the road, I'm happy that we have Gore locked up and there should be no issues for years on this.
Glen Coffee - RB - 7/27/2009: Signed a four-year, $2.578 million contract. The deal included an $828,250 signing bonus. 2009: $310,000, 2010: $395,000, 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent
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Coffee is locked up cheaply for years as our #2 back, and he is a good one. He just needs to learn patience following his blocks and work on his vision. Nothing but good from this contract for SF
Mike Robinson - RB - 2/28/2008: Signed a three-year, $3.525 million contract extension through 2012. The deal included a $1.2 million signing bonus. 2009: $535,000, 2010: $650,000, 2011: $750,000, 2012: $850,000, 2013: Free Agent
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Cheap and versatile depth for years.... nothing but smiles on this. SF in in good shape at this position for years.
Morran Norris - FB - 2/28/2008: Signed a three-year, $3.525 million contract extension through 2012. The deal included a $1.2 million signing bonus. 2009: $535,000, 2010: $650,000, 2011: $750,000, 2012: $850,000, 2013: Free Agent
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No contract concern here... Norris is a good battering ram up the gut, and reports say he's improving on his hands and route running if needed. Norris is 31 years old, and I'm guessing SF will reconsider whether he should be our starting FB after the 2010 season. If he does finish his contract, then it means he's kept himself fit and he's still effective... so fine either way. SF should really look to add a late rounder or UDFA fullback and start grooming him. I'm not sure how long Rathman will be here, and he would be a great teacher for a youngster to learn from.
Joe Staley - LT - 6/4/2009: Signed a nine-year, $43.66 million contract. The deal includes $18 million guaranteed. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2009: Under Contract (+ $12.2 million roster bonus), 2010-2015: Under Contract, 2016: $4.9 million, 2017: $5.75 million, 2018: Free Agent. Cap charge: $13.5 million (2009).
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I think it's safe to say that SF has their LT locked up for many years. Joe is making good money, but it's quite a reasonable contract, all things considered. Should keep Staley and SF happy for a long while.
David Baas - LG - 2009: $666,875, 2010: Free Agent
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We all know by now that our GM has not been inclined to pay big money for OGs in the past. Baas is on the last year of his rookie deal, and has not been playing to the level of his 2008 campaign. I still hope that SF tries to extend him, but understand it might be best to wait a lil longer and see if things improve. If Baas' play improves, I would make him an offer. Maybe something in the 4 year 16 million range?
Eric Heitmann - OC - 9/??/2008: Signed a four-year, $8.24 million contract. The deal included a $1.25 million signing bonus. 2009: $800,000 (+ $1 million roster bonus), 2010: $1.4 million (+ $300,000 roster bonus), 2011: $1.95 million (+ $300,000 roster bonus), 2012: Free agent
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Incredibly cheap deal for Heitmann, and he's locked in with SF for a while. Not the most dominating OL, but Heitmann is smart and generally gets it done well enough. No worries here for a while.
Chilo Rachal - RG - 7/16/2008: Signed a four-year, $3.514 million contract. The deal contains $1.8 million guaranteed, including a $1.49 million signing bonus and a $73,000 first-year roster bonus. 2009: $460,000, 2010: $552,000, 2011: $644,000, 2012: Free Agent
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This rookie contract is not costly, and keeps Rachal in SF for a while. Like Baas, he needs to step up his play. Rachal has taken a step backwards in his progression. He has had too many protection breakdowns, and has not been consistent in run blocking. I suspect that he will get things straightened out and be a good RG for years in SF.
Adam Snyder - RT - 9/21/2006: Signed a four-year, $10.5 million contract extension through 2011. The deal included a $4 million signing bonus. 2009: $1.4 million, 2010: $1.65 million, 2011: $2 million, 2012: Free Agent
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Signed to a cheap deal for 4 years. Great deal for SF, as Snyder is a decent starter with an opportunity to get better. He also has the experience and versatility to play everywhere on the line (except OC) if injuries force our hand. SF should still look to draft a top OT in the offseason, but are not so desperate to reach for lesser value.
Barry Sims - LT - 6/23/2008: Signed a two-year, $4.2 million contract. The deal included a $600,000 signing bonus and contains $1.4 million in "likely to be earned" incentives. 2009: $870,000, 2010: Free Agent
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Nice, cheap deal... It will still be a pleasure to see this 35 year old get axed in the offseason.
Tony Wragge - OG - 3/25/2009: Signed a two-year contract. 2009: $620,000, 2010: Under Contract, 2011: Free Agent
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Very cheap deal, and I'm glad SF has this versatile backup through the 2010 season. Wragge is a marginal starter, but excellent backup at the OG and OC spots.
Cody Wallace - OC/OG - 7/23/2008: Signed a four-year, $2.193 million contract. The deal included a $488,000 signing bonus. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $470,000, 2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent
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Another cheap and longer term contract. Wallace has been damn near invisible while developing. He showed some flashes in preseason (actually played better at OG), so I'm hopeful he can be quality interior depth for a while... maybe more than that one day
Tony Pashos - OT - 9/7/2009: Signed a one-year contract.
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I'm not really expecting Pashos to be our starter at RT, but he's being mixed in there to see if he can be. He has been decent at times... rather poor at other times. Still, I'm glad to have him this year for depth. We'll see what happens with him... could go either way.
Vernon Davis - TE - 7/28/2006: Signed a five-year, $23 million contract. The deal contains $15.2 million guaranteed, including an initial roster bonus of $1.885 million and a $9.36 million option bonus. 2009: $1.44 million, 2010: $1.98 million, 2011: Free Agent. Cap charges: $3.78 million (2009), $4.32 million (2010).
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An appropriate rookie contract that stretches on for 2 more years. Been a pleasure watching Vernon improving on maturity and production. I'm nervous as to what size contract Davis will demand, but I'm not concerned this season. If he continues to play well, I can see the F/O making him a good offer in the offseason to extend his stay in SF.
Delanie Walker - TE - 6/22/2008: Signed a six-year, $5.25 million contract. The deal included a $1.8 million signing bonus. Another $725,000 is available through incentives. 2009: $535,000, 2010: $655,000, 2011: $750,000, 2012: $1.045 million, 2013: Free Agent
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I'm a big fan of this extension... locked up a really good #2 TE for a very reasonable price. DWalker needs to keep working on his blocking skills, but he's a nice receiver and often a favorable mismatch on defenders.
Brian Jennings - LS/TE - 6/6/2009: Signed a five-year contract extension through 2014. 2009: $745,000, 2010-2014: Under Contract, 2015: Free Agent
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Not a big liability on our cap, and we locked up a heck of a LS and special-teamer.
Michael Crabtree - WR - 10/7/2009: Signed a six-year, $32 million contract. The deal includes $17 million guaranteed. Another $8 million is available through incentives. The contract can void to five years based on "unlikely to be earned" Pro Bowl and playing-time triggers. 2009-2013: Under Contract, 2014: $4 million (Voidable Year), 2015: Free Agent
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By all accounts, SF won this contract battle while also not showing bitterness by trying to stick it to Crabby. Everyone walks away happy here. Crabby's getting good chunks of money for many years, and SF is hopefully getting the #1 WR that they have lacked since Owens departed.
Isaac Bruce - WR - 2/29/2008: Signed a two-year, $5.5 million contract. The deal contains $2.55 million guaranteed, including a $1 million signing bonus. 2009: $1.475 million, 2010: Free Agent. Cap charge: $3 million (2009).
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It wouldn't surprise me if Bruce's conditioning could keep him playing well for 2-3 more years... but I don't expect it to be with SF. Still... chances are excellent that he will hang em up. His contract is up... he'll be 37 years old, and I think SF will wave g'bye with a thank you for his good contributions.
Josh Morgan - WR - 6/19/2008: Signed a four-year, $1.811 million contract. The deal included a $106,000 signing bonus. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $470,000, 2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent
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Morgan has yet to justify the great expectations of him, but he's clearly a good WR that will get better. He is on the cheap right now with that 6th round rookie deal. I suspect that SF will wait through this year and begin thoughts of giving him a contract upgrade in the near future. It likely won't be for huge numbers. Morgan still has much to prove, but he's got a place on our receiving corps for a while.
Brandon Jones - WR - 2/28/2009: Signed a five-year, $16.5 million contract. The deal includes $5.4 million guaranteed. 2009-2012: Under Contract, 2013: $3.375 million, 2014: Free Agent
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Can't speak for everyone, but I first thought SF overpaid for his services. Still, his contract isn't overwhelming so long as he lives up to being our #3 while pushing for #2 status vs Morgan. BJ has good speed, and has impressed in the offseason. I hope he won't be regular on the weekly injury report though. I really like the WR trio of Crabby, Morgan, and BJ for the future.
Jason Hill - WR - 7/26/2007: Signed a four-year, $2.27 million contract. The deal included a $603,000 signing bonus. 2009: $460,000, 2010: $550,000, 2011: Free Agent
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Not a cap concern here, but very possibly a "flight-risk". Hey, Jason Hill would be a real quality #4 receiver, but he rightfully wants to be much more than that. He has respectfully expressed unhappiness over his lack of playing time and has been buried on our depth chart. I personally feel that he will request a trade soon, and seek success somewhere else. If I'm wrong and he stays, all the better for SF... a good depth WR for low cost.
Arnaz Battle - WR - 2009: $1.49 million, 2010: Free Agent
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At times, it's hard to figure Battle to be in SF's long term plans. There's plenty of variables to consider. If Battle loves being in SF... if Battle is fine with taking an inexpensive extension... if he is fine with getting very few snaps in relief... if Jason Hill departs... SF would be wise in retaining Arnaz. He is a classic overachiever... makes the clutch receptions, and would be the old, experienced vet in a fairly young group.
Mike Spurlock - WR - 1/23/2009: Signed a reserve/future contract. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $470,000
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Spurlock didn't bring the same impressive game he showed in the preseason... granted, limited looks. SF cleared a spot on the practice squad. Seems like that spot will be for Spurlock. At any rate, clearly not a cap concern.
Joe Nedney - PK - 4/16/2009: Signed a three-year contract.
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36 years old, but should have enough in that leg to be in SF a while longer
Andy Lee - P - 3/7/2007: Signed a six-year, $7.1 million contract. Details
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Not going anywhere for a long time, thankfully.
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