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The Atlanta Defense Vs. Tight Ends

I've noticed a lot of people saying that VD is the key to victory against Atlanta this week because they "don't have anybody that can cover him".

Well, I looked at the stats at Football Outsiders and Atlanta does quite well against Tight Ends -- 10th overall in adjusted performance:
9.2 adjusted passes attempted at the tight end, 52.7 yards per game, 5.7 yards per attempt.

However, Atlanta has done very poorly against #1 WRs (24th) and average against #2s:
Against #1 WRs, 112 YPG allowed, 9.9 passes attempted, 11.3 YPA.

Atlanta is 25th against the rush -- adjusted performance.

We are 8th against the TE pass, 18th Against #1 WRs, 4th against #2 WRs, and 27th vs. RBs. We're getting gouged for 6.8 yards per attempt on short passes to RBs.

Based on that weakness we have, I think they're going to try and run a lot of screen plays to Jerious Norwood -- he's deadly in the open field and that would slow down our pass rush. Not really sure how to neutralize that threat.

When we're on offense, our best bet is to (1) pound the ball up the middle and (2) take play-action shots downfield -- that's what Football Outsiders stats dictates (weak v. RBs and WRs). They are 29th vs/ runs up the middle and off of Left Tackle, but are 4th in the NFL against runs off right tackle. So, don't run at Jamaal Anderson.



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl
I really hope Coffee has a big week & they can get him out on the edges a few times.
Originally posted by nickbradley:
I've noticed a lot of people saying that VD is the key to victory against Atlanta this week because they "don't have anybody that can cover him".

Well, I looked at the stats at Football Outsiders and Atlanta does quite well against Tight Ends -- 10th overall in adjusted performance:
9.2 adjusted passes attempted at the tight end, 52.7 yards per game, 5.7 yards per attempt.

However, Atlanta has done very poorly against #1 WRs (24th) and average against #2s:
Against #1 WRs, 112 YPG allowed, 9.9 passes attempted, 11.3 YPA.

Atlanta is 25th against the rush -- adjusted performance.

We are 8th against the TE pass, 18th Against #1 WRs, 4th against #2 WRs, and 27th vs. RBs. We're getting gouged for 6.8 yards per attempt on short passes to RBs.

Based on that weakness we have, I think they're going to try and run a lot of screen plays to Jerious Norwood -- he's deadly in the open field and that would slow down our pass rush. Not really sure how to neutralize that threat.
When we're on offense, our best bet is to (1) pound the ball up the middle and (2) take play-action shots downfield -- that's what Football Outsiders stats dictates (weak v. RBs and WRs). They are 29th vs/ runs up the middle and off of Left Tackle, but are 4th in the NFL against runs off right tackle. So, don't run at Jamaal Anderson.



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl

Stand up the Blocking WR at the line of scrimmage and try to get the Norwood to run inside towards our LB's
they also haven't played against a good tight end or a team that really uses their TEs a lot
Solid information.

I'm not totally sold on Norwood playing on Sunday. He's coming back after suffering his second concussion this season and hasn't played extensively all year (and preseason).

Also to consider: Michael Turner has fumbled twice this season. Last season, he fumbled just two times all season while touching the ball 382 times.

I'm more concerned about the 49ers attaining an early lead to minimize Turner, much in the same way New England did in week three.
Originally posted by tohara3:
I really hope Coffee has a big week & they can get him out on the edges a few times.

Caffeine is definitely key to winning Sunday!
s**t, in a way forget our Tight End, we are facing one of the best if not the best tight ends in the league, in Gonzalez. I wanna see how our defense will stop him. Should be a great game.
VD is the key to EVERY victory. At least until Gore gets healthy or Crabs gets going. Question is which comes first, A healthy Gore or a productive Crabs?
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
s**t, in a way forget our Tight End, we are facing one of the best if not the best tight ends in the league, in Gonzalez. I wanna see how our defense will stop him. Should be a great game.

That's what I was gonna say.

I hope this is one of those, see ya later old TE in the league in Gonzalez, welcome newer breed TE VD
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Originally posted by FourNine49:
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
s**t, in a way forget our Tight End, we are facing one of the best if not the best tight ends in the league, in Gonzalez. I wanna see how our defense will stop him. Should be a great game.

That's what I was gonna say.

I hope this is one of those, see ya later old TE in the league in Gonzalez, welcome newer breed TE VD

Yeah right, cause i remember where they used to compare Davis to Gonzalez. By that maybe not in every way, but in the aspect of being that game changer that no one can stop. And it seems as Gonzalez got traded, he's making catches that i dont see some young TE's make.

The past vs. the future, i cant wait.
Originally posted by nickbradley:
I've noticed a lot of people saying that VD is the key to victory against Atlanta this week because they "don't have anybody that can cover him".

Well, I looked at the stats at Football Outsiders and Atlanta does quite well against Tight Ends -- 10th overall in adjusted performance:
9.2 adjusted passes attempted at the tight end, 52.7 yards per game, 5.7 yards per attempt.

However, Atlanta has done very poorly against #1 WRs (24th) and average against #2s:
Against #1 WRs, 112 YPG allowed, 9.9 passes attempted, 11.3 YPA.

Atlanta is 25th against the rush -- adjusted performance.

We are 8th against the TE pass, 18th Against #1 WRs, 4th against #2 WRs, and 27th vs. RBs. We're getting gouged for 6.8 yards per attempt on short passes to RBs.

Based on that weakness we have, I think they're going to try and run a lot of screen plays to Jerious Norwood -- he's deadly in the open field and that would slow down our pass rush. Not really sure how to neutralize that threat.

When we're on offense, our best bet is to (1) pound the ball up the middle and (2) take play-action shots downfield -- that's what Football Outsiders stats dictates (weak v. RBs and WRs). They are 29th vs/ runs up the middle and off of Left Tackle, but are 4th in the NFL against runs off right tackle. So, don't run at Jamaal Anderson.



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl

It's too early in the season for these stats to mean too much. For example, our D against RB receptions is totally skewed by Tim Hightower and that one game. We'll have a clearer picture around week 10-12.
that 26th to runningbacks has me thinking about our LBs. thats their zone right there. I also do think though that weve been getting offenses in a lot of 3rd and 8s 3rd and longer than 5. guys underneath might not be getting the whole 8 yards just 5 or 6. either way id like to see how many of those 3rd and longs were completed to RBs for first downs. that would give a great indication on our LBs coverage skills.


...oh wait do i need to start a new thread for this?
I think Hightower picked up all those yards, because of the gameplan. Stop the big play to the WRs and have Willis clean up the underneath pass to the RB, which worked. Hightower caught a lot of passes for yards, but it's basically what the 9ers wanted.
Originally posted by RonMexico:
they also haven't played against a good tight end or a team that really uses their TEs a lot

Not true.

1. The TE stats at footballoutsiders are adjusted for strength of opponent.

2. Teams throw to the TES vs. ATL 9.2 times a game -- one of the higher number in the league.