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Peter King says Jerry Rice is not the best WR in history

lol I didn't see when the original post was made...just went to his twitter account to follow him so I could tell him what a retard he is.

I never liked that guy. He is always one of those people who likes to throw sh*t against the wall to see if it sticks then milks it for years after. He's the Mel Kiper of the regular season. He'll milk his crazy predictions that come true for years but buries the 90% of the other stupid crap that he was wrong about.

I know it's a cool thing to do in throwing out the names of these old school players when discussing the best of all time and it's not fair to compare different eras but there's no f*cking way Don Hutson competes in the NFL these days. Jerry Rice WAS the best no questions about it and he faced some of the best players out there and got it done. His dedication and drive for the game is pretty much unmatched. If that fat phuck Sapp didn't cheap shot him he would've been even better which is crazy considering he tops every receiving category worth a damn.

Jerry wasn't the most physically gifted receiver out there and someone may come along to break his records - it's easier to pass these days and with modern science guys can play longer but Jerry will and should always be considered the GOAT in this generation of football.

Did he luck out with the qbs we had? Sure but it takes two to tango and Jerry was the man with the ball in his hands.

You give me one guy to clone and build a team around and I'll take Rice. If some of these other guys had his fire and love for the game they would be unstoppable(I'm looking at you Randy Moss)

...in conclusion Peter King is a f*cktard.
peter king can blow me
Why do SO Many people care about what someone says about a football player is Life going to end cause someone has a different point of view than Niner fans? I remember alot of people here including myself were Steve Young fans but let me ask this was he anywhere near a great QB when he 1st took over for Montana?

Just cause someone doesnt agree with what Niners fans think doesnt make him an Idiot...I mean goto a Cowboys board and tell them E Smith wasnt the greatest RB see what they say...
Peter King is a idiot plain and simple.
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who the hell is don hutson? must be a raider
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Originally posted by SanFranAddic:
Originally posted by Winners:
Via his twitter page tonight:

Respect all opinions to the contrary. Rice's impact on game cannot be understated. Hutson gets my vote as best receiver ever.

What a lame ass.

http://twitter.com/Si_peterking

It is true that Rice was the most prolific receiver ever, but Hutson's accomplishments make him a worthy competitor to Rice for the "All-time greatest WR" title in the same way a Sammy Baugh or Otto Graham can be proposed as the greatest all-time QB.

Their stats stand up in any era, but they were accomplished under different rules and at a time when more run-oriented systems/philosophies were employed.


Read up on Hutson and you will be impressed. The guy was an amazing talent. You may even change your tune.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Hutson

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?PLAYER_ID=104

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=HutsoDon01

I agree that Hutson was ahead of his time but in that era defenses were set up to stop the run. I would almost give more credit to the coaching staff for seeing a way to exploit a weakness in the defenses of the time.

On the idea that Hutson had more impact on the position of WR, I would still disagree. I could be wrong but I thought the term YAC became popular because of Jerry Rice. His ability to take a 5 yard slant and turn it into a 65 yard touchdown was in my mind what made the WCO so popular.

The thing is that teams are still trying to find a WR that can do it as well as Rice did for all those years. That I believe is a game changer to me.
I despise King as well as everyone else...the problem is don hutson is the most dominating player in NFL history...at any position...and it isn't even arguable quite frankly...

That being said, was Rice the best WR ever....of course...duh.
Originally posted by GOLDMOUTH22:
who the hell is don hutson? must be a raider

Don Hutson played for the Lombardi Era Packers. He was a hell of a Football player and did help change how the position was played.

BUT... Rice is and was better. Hutson was basically a TE playing the Receiver position. Much like Eric Johnson was a converted Receiver to TE.

King is still a retard, but you can't bring up Receivers without mentioning Hutson.

~Ceadder
King has crap for brains!
  • Kolohe
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Well, if Peter King says it, it must be true.
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You know that in Hutson's best ever season he had 74 receptions for 1211 yards and 17 TDs. In Rice's he had 122 receptions for 1848 yards and 15 TDs. Isaac Bruce that year was second with 119 for 1781 and 13 TDs. In Hutson's career year the second place receiver was Ray McLean who stats were 19 receptions for 571 yards and 8 TDs. The difference between Rice and the next best receiver that year was neglible over the course of the year but Hutson was better than twice as good. I believe Rice is the GOAT but I have no problem that somebody thinks Hutson was the best ever. I never saw him play, have only seen a couple of highlight packages on America's Game so I'm not in a position to judge, King I would imagine has seen enough of Hutson and Rice to make an educated call, unlike most of us.
Originally posted by Kelv:
You know that in Hutson's best ever season he had 74 receptions for 1211 yards and 17 TDs. In Rice's he had 122 receptions for 1848 yards and 15 TDs. Isaac Bruce that year was second with 119 for 1781 and 13 TDs. In Hutson's career year the second place receiver was Ray McLean who stats were 19 receptions for 571 yards and 8 TDs. The difference between Rice and the next best receiver that year was neglible over the course of the year but Hutson was better than twice as good. I believe Rice is the GOAT but I have no problem that somebody thinks Hutson was the best ever. I never saw him play, have only seen a couple of highlight packages on America's Game so I'm not in a position to judge, King I would imagine has seen enough of Hutson and Rice to make an educated call, unlike most of us.

The game is almost completely different from back then. Hutson may have changed the game but it's hard to compare hutson to rice using stats. One aspect of this argument that is overlooked by King is that the game has evolved into what it is today. Rice is the best WR in the modern era. Nobody will try to say that moss, carter, irving or anybody else I am forgetting, was better than rice. Rice is a product of what the game has evolved into. Rice is or was the best modern WR. So a much better argument can be made that Rice is the best WR in the existence of football.

An analogy can be made using cars. If you purchased a new top of the line camaro in 69 and a 2010 top of the line camaro, which car will out perform the other? Although the 1969 has history and a since of nostalgia behind it, the 2010 will out perform the 69 in every aspect because its the same car with improvements.

How WR train, condition, and what is asked of them is a product of their position evolving over the years. This is what makes rice the best because he is the best of what WR's have turned into.
If Peter King's opinion mattered I would give a s**t.
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Originally posted by fister30:
Originally posted by Kelv:
You know that in Hutson's best ever season he had 74 receptions for 1211 yards and 17 TDs. In Rice's he had 122 receptions for 1848 yards and 15 TDs. Isaac Bruce that year was second with 119 for 1781 and 13 TDs. In Hutson's career year the second place receiver was Ray McLean who stats were 19 receptions for 571 yards and 8 TDs. The difference between Rice and the next best receiver that year was neglible over the course of the year but Hutson was better than twice as good. I believe Rice is the GOAT but I have no problem that somebody thinks Hutson was the best ever. I never saw him play, have only seen a couple of highlight packages on America's Game so I'm not in a position to judge, King I would imagine has seen enough of Hutson and Rice to make an educated call, unlike most of us.

The game is almost completely different from back then. Hutson may have changed the game but it's hard to compare hutson to rice using stats. One aspect of this argument that is overlooked by King is that the game has evolved into what it is today. Rice is the best WR in the modern era. Nobody will try to say that moss, carter, irving or anybody else I am forgetting, was better than rice. Rice is a product of what the game has evolved into. Rice is or was the best modern WR. So a much better argument can be made that Rice is the best WR in the existence of football.

An analogy can be made using cars. If you purchased a new top of the line camaro in 69 and a 2010 top of the line camaro, which car will out perform the other? Although the 1969 has history and a since of nostalgia behind it, the 2010 will out perform the 69 in every aspect because its the same car with improvements.

How WR train, condition, and what is asked of them is a product of their position evolving over the years. This is what makes rice the best because he is the best of what WR's have turned into.

Yes the game was different but a player can only operate in the era in which they played. There's no point comparing physical attributes of players from different eras because of advances made in conditioning, diet, etc but you can compare how a player performed in comparison to his peers. Its not like anyone thinks Lennox Lewis is a better heavyweight than Ali but realistically Lewis would murder him if they actually fought each other at their peak. I do think Rice is the best but its still ok and interesting to compare players from different eras.