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Is Jimmy Raye too old and stubborn to change his ways?

Is Jimmy Raye too old and stubborn to change his ways?

we don't exactly block very well, so passing more could lead to more sacks/fumbles



maybe this professional football coordinator knows this
Examples: In the Cardinals and Vikings games, the only time we drove down the field and scored was when we were passing the ball.
It actually should read is sing too stubborn to change his philosophy. Have we all forgotten that sing said he will leave the d to manusky, and help witht the offense. This is the scheme that sing wants. He chose raye because raye saw his vision of a run first team.

This past weekend when gore was out, a reporter asked sing what's his plan b, now that the star is out, and his exact words were what plan b. We don't have one, we HAVE to run the ball. So in actuality it's sing and not raye who wants the offense executed the way it is. Raye just falls in line with what the HC wants, and his attitude on the execution is based on what Sing wants first .
Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:
Examples: In the Cardinals and Vikings games, the only time we drove down the field and scored was when we were passing the ball.

after running the ball

if we didn't run the ball so much prior to that, would it had been effective?

would the D be expecting the pass more?
btw I would love to see us pass more and see what happens

just don't know if it will be consistently as effective as it was on those 2 drives
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As I said before. He is mixing it up. We've called more pass plays than run plays. The problem is our talent is only good enough for about 2 drives per game. Not the head coach. Not the OC. Not the plays. It's our talent. Plain and simple.



Vikes game

1st quarter

Quote:
# 1-10-SF 23 (14:56) 13-S.Hill sacked at SF 16 for -7 yards (69-J.Allen). FUMBLES (69-J.Allen), recovered by SF-74-J.Staley at SF 16. 74-J.Staley to SF 16 for no gain (69-J.Allen).

# 2-17-SF 16 (14:11) (Shotgun) 13-S.Hill pass incomplete short right to 21-F.Gore [91-R.Edwards].

# 3-17-SF 16 (14:11) (Shotgun) PENALTY on SF-13-S.Hill, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at SF 16 - No Play.

# 3-22-SF 11 (14:08) (Shotgun) 13-S.Hill pass short left to 84-J.Morgan to SF 12 for 1 yard (52-C.Greenway).

# 4-21-SF 12 (13:34) 4-A.Lee punts 50 yards to MIN 38, Center-86-B.Jennings. 82-D.Reynaud to MIN 41 for 3 yards (56-S.McKillop).


3 drop backs lose 11 yards 3 & out

Quote:
# 1-10-SF 8 (:52) 29-G.Coffee up the middle to SF 13 for 5 yards (26-A.Winfield).

# 2-5-SF 13 (:17) 13-S.Hill pass incomplete deep right to 85-V.Davis (93-K.Williams).

# 3-5-SF 13 (:11) (Shotgun) 13-S.Hill pass incomplete short middle to 29-G.Coffee [52-C.Greenway].

# 4-5-SF 13 (:06) 4-A.Lee punts 53 yards to MIN 34, Center-86-B.Jennings. 82-D.Reynaud pushed ob at SF 34 for 32 yards (99-M.Lawson).

run pass pass 3 & out

2nd quarter

Quote:
# 1-10-SF 30 (3:21) 13-S.Hill pass short right to 84-J.Morgan pushed ob at SF 43 for 13 yards (25-T.Johnson).

# 1-10-SF 43 (2:56) 13-S.Hill pass incomplete deep right to 85-V.Davis.

# 2-10-SF 43 (2:49) 29-G.Coffee up the middle to SF 44 for 1 yard (69-J.Allen, 94-P.Williams).

# 3-9-SF 44 (2:06) (Shotgun) 13-S.Hill pass incomplete short right to 88-I.Bruce [91-R.Edwards].

# 4-9-SF 44 (2:02) 4-A.Lee punts 56 yards to end zone, Center-86-B.Jennings, Touchback.

pass pass run pass 4 & out

3rd quarter

Quote:
# 1-10-SF 20 (4:34) 13-S.Hill pass short middle to 85-V.Davis to SF 37 for 17 yards (26-A.Winfield). Penalty on MIN-23-C.Griffin, Illegal Contact, declined.

# 1-10-SF 37 (4:03) 29-G.Coffee left guard to SF 37 for no gain (90-F.Evans, 56-E.Henderson).

# 2-10-SF 37 (3:20) PENALTY on MIN-90-F.Evans, Encroachment, 5 yards, enforced at SF 37 - No Play.

# 2-5-SF 42 (2:54) 13-S.Hill pass incomplete short right to Unidentified [91-R.Edwards]. PENALTY on SF-13-S.Hill, Intentional Grounding, 10 yards, enforced at SF 42.

# 3-15-SF 32 (2:50) (Shotgun) 13-S.Hill pass short right to 24-M.Robinson to SF 40 for 8 yards (56-E.Henderson).

# 4-7-SF 40 (2:18) 4-A.Lee punts 54 yards to MIN 6, Center-86-B.Jennings. 87-B.Berrian to MIN 14 for 8 yards (24-M.Robinson). PENALTY on MIN-37-E.Frampton, Offensive Holding, 7 yards, enforced at MIN 14.

pass run pass pass 4 & out
No he's just inexperienced to be an OC for a NFL football team on the rise, also, I don't think he's a very good OC from what I've seen so far...
Originally posted by King49er:
No he's just inexperienced to be an OC for a NFL football team on the rise, also, I don't think he's a very good OC from what I've seen so far...

He has 38 years of experience, a lot more than those who try to criticize from an uninformed position.
I miss Turner
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by King49er:
No he's just inexperienced to be an OC for a NFL football team on the rise, also, I don't think he's a very good OC from what I've seen so far...

He has 38 years of experience, a lot more than those who try to criticize from an uninformed position.

38 years is not enough
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I miss Turner

He might be looking for a job next year.
It would be amazing to bring him back our line and Gore were excellent
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Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:

We're two and one, right?
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I miss Turner

I don't. It's not like the niner offense was that super great under him either.

I just wish Raye would pass more on 2nd downs, but of course he won't. He's just another stubborn old goat.