Are you happy with Hill's Performance?

6 drops that i've counted in this game. Michael Robinson, Coffee, V. Davis, Bruce, Morgan, and I forgot who the other guy was.

Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

At least he threw it to the wideouts this week...

Yes.. HE SHOULD HAVE 3 TD's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!













DAMN IT MORGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good playcalling BTW!!

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

What?!? I don't think ANYONE here ever said they "hated" the guy.

At risk of speaking for others, I just realize what he is. And THAT is not a good thing. What is the point of both Hill and Morgan becoming better players LAST season only to be stunted by having a weak arm delivery service under Center? I think that if this is to be Smith's last season or Davis's future then THEY should be "game managing" under Center instead. At least they would have gotten a chance to prove themselves to either the team or future teams. But nope we have to be subjected to a season(or more) of a backup pretending to be a Starter. Sounds harsh, but then again reality is a harsh woman.

It's not about hating it's about LOGIC, and that seems to be missing around here alot lately.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

What?!? I don't think ANYONE here ever said they "hated" the guy.

At risk of speaking for others, I just realize what he is. And THAT is not a good thing. What is the point of both Hill and Morgan becoming better players LAST season only to be stunted by having a weak arm delivery service under Center? I think that if this is to be Smith's last season or Davis's future then THEY should be "game managing" under Center instead. At least they would have gotten a chance to prove themselves to either the team or future teams. But nope we have to be subjected to a season(or more) of a backup pretending to be a Starter. Sounds harsh, but then again reality is a harsh woman.

It's not about hating it's about LOGIC, and that seems to be missing around here alot lately.

~Ceadder

Exactly , heaven forbid logic should enter into the discussion , Hill is not good , he's not bad he just is , it's not hating , I'm not sure but I think Davis or Smith could make the throws that Hill is being asked to make , his stats for the day were barely better than Jamarcus Russell , come on people open your eyes , I know it's been a long time since the team has been fun to watch but the only thing missing for them to be really good is a QB

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

What?!? I don't think ANYONE here ever said they "hated" the guy.

At risk of speaking for others, I just realize what he is. And THAT is not a good thing. What is the point of both Hill and Morgan becoming better players LAST season only to be stunted by having a weak arm delivery service under Center? I think that if this is to be Smith's last season or Davis's future then THEY should be "game managing" under Center instead. At least they would have gotten a chance to prove themselves to either the team or future teams. But nope we have to be subjected to a season(or more) of a backup pretending to be a Starter. Sounds harsh, but then again reality is a harsh woman.

It's not about hating it's about LOGIC, and that seems to be missing around here alot lately.

~Ceadder

LOL...

The OP didn't name any names; but, you feel the need to defend yourself against the post. Way to out yourself.

[ Edited by D_Niner on Oct 5, 2009 at 12:50:53 ]

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

What?!? I don't think ANYONE here ever said they "hated" the guy.

At risk of speaking for others, I just realize what he is. And THAT is not a good thing. What is the point of both Hill and Morgan becoming better players LAST season only to be stunted by having a weak arm delivery service under Center? I think that if this is to be Smith's last season or Davis's future then THEY should be "game managing" under Center instead. At least they would have gotten a chance to prove themselves to either the team or future teams. But nope we have to be subjected to a season(or more) of a backup pretending to be a Starter. Sounds harsh, but then again reality is a harsh woman.

It's not about hating it's about LOGIC, and that seems to be missing around here alot lately.

~Ceadder

Exactly , heaven forbid logic should enter into the discussion , Hill is not good , he's not bad he just is , it's not hating , I'm not sure but I think Davis or Smith could make the throws that Hill is being asked to make , his stats for the day were barely better than Jamarcus Russell , come on people open your eyes , I know it's been a long time since the team has been fun to watch but the only thing missing for them to be really good is a QB

yall dont like him because he isnt pretty with everything. hell i even hear his players keep saying "he wont lose you the game". all i see though is Hill puts it in a good place most of the time and people manage to drop passes. miss assignments and let defenders come through to get a lick on him. despite all that hes 7-0 as a starter at home 10-4 overall. If he keeps winning why would you wanna hand the team over to Smith or a rookie? This is where logic doesnt enter the discussion.

7-0 At Home nuf said !

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

What?!? I don't think ANYONE here ever said they "hated" the guy.

At risk of speaking for others, I just realize what he is. And THAT is not a good thing. What is the point of both Hill and Morgan becoming better players LAST season only to be stunted by having a weak arm delivery service under Center? I think that if this is to be Smith's last season or Davis's future then THEY should be "game managing" under Center instead. At least they would have gotten a chance to prove themselves to either the team or future teams. But nope we have to be subjected to a season(or more) of a backup pretending to be a Starter. Sounds harsh, but then again reality is a harsh woman.

It's not about hating it's about LOGIC, and that seems to be missing around here alot lately.

~Ceadder

Exactly , heaven forbid logic should enter into the discussion , Hill is not good , he's not bad he just is , it's not hating , I'm not sure but I think Davis or Smith could make the throws that Hill is being asked to make , his stats for the day were barely better than Jamarcus Russell , come on people open your eyes , I know it's been a long time since the team has been fun to watch but the only thing missing for them to be really good is a QB

History and logic disagree with you on this one...

Originally posted by D_Niner:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

What?!? I don't think ANYONE here ever said they "hated" the guy.

At risk of speaking for others, I just realize what he is. And THAT is not a good thing. What is the point of both Hill and Morgan becoming better players LAST season only to be stunted by having a weak arm delivery service under Center? I think that if this is to be Smith's last season or Davis's future then THEY should be "game managing" under Center instead. At least they would have gotten a chance to prove themselves to either the team or future teams. But nope we have to be subjected to a season(or more) of a backup pretending to be a Starter. Sounds harsh, but then again reality is a harsh woman.

It's not about hating it's about LOGIC, and that seems to be missing around here alot lately.

~Ceadder

Exactly , heaven forbid logic should enter into the discussion , Hill is not good , he's not bad he just is , it's not hating , I'm not sure but I think Davis or Smith could make the throws that Hill is being asked to make , his stats for the day were barely better than Jamarcus Russell , come on people open your eyes , I know it's been a long time since the team has been fun to watch but the only thing missing for them to be really good is a QB

History and logic disagree with you on this one...

Maybe History would disagree with Smith , but at this point Davis has no history. Did you see that throw to Morgan if the Rams had anybody who could play corner that is a pick.Just so I'm clear with the logic of your argument any inconsistencies in Hill's game are a) The O Line's fault b) receivers suck c) Jimmy Raye just won't turn him loose so we can all witness the greatness that is Shaun Hill d) all of the above

If these stats were posted by someone named Smith, half the Zone would be having kittens, claiming he is a bust and totally worthless. Yet, because Hill is putting up these numbers, people are happy. I just don't get it.

FYI, take a look at the bottom of the stats for passing yards:

22 Shaun Hill SF QB 66 106 62.3 26.5 700 6.6 175.0 5 1 32 30.2 50 7 1 13 93.3
23 Matt Ryan ATL QB 60 91 65.9 30.3 648 7.1 216.0 5 1 38 41.8 27 9 0 2 100.4
24 Seneca Wallace SEA QB 74 112 66.1 28.0 645 5.8 161.2 3 2 34 30.4 39T 6 0 8 82.6
25 Jake Delhomme CAR QB 54 91 59.3 30.3 601 6.6 200.3 2 7 31 34.1 32 8 0 7 54.3
26 Byron Leftwich TB QB 58 107 54.2 35.7 594 5.6 198.0 4 3 27 25.2 47 7 2 2 71.2
27 Brett Favre MIN QB 61 94 64.9 31.3 566 6.0 188.7 5 1 30 31.9 36 5 0 9 94.5
28 JaMarcus Russell OAK QB 43 108 39.8 27.0 506 4.7 126.5 1 4 25 23.1 57T 4 1 8 42.4
29 Matt Cassel KC QB 53 89 59.6 29.7 458 5.1 152.7 5 2 24 27.0 43 4 1 10 82.5
30 Chad Pennington MIA QB 51 74 68.9 24.7 413 5.6 137.7 1 2 27 36.5 21 3 0 6 76.0
31 Brady Quinn CLE QB 45 74 60.8 24.7 400 5.4 133.3 1 3 21 28.4 26T 3 0 10 62.9
32 Derek Anderson CLE QB 37 67 55.2 33.5 361 5.4 180.5 1 4 20 29.9 30 5 0 3 50.7
33 Marc Bulger STL QB 35 68 51.5 22.7 339 5.0 113.0 1 0 17 25.0 45 2 1 5 70.6


Look at the names below our boy Hill. With the exception of Favre and Ryan, I wouldn't want to be listed anywhere near those chumps.

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by D_Niner:

Originally posted by 9ermj:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:

Originally posted by ApatheticIAm:
Damn what does Hill have to do to get some of your guys respect? Look, he did real crappy in the first half but got his s*it together in the second. Enough said the guy gets it done.

On to Atlanta.

There are a few posters on the webzone that will never like Hill.

I think we know who they are.

What?!? I don't think ANYONE here ever said they "hated" the guy.

At risk of speaking for others, I just realize what he is. And THAT is not a good thing. What is the point of both Hill and Morgan becoming better players LAST season only to be stunted by having a weak arm delivery service under Center? I think that if this is to be Smith's last season or Davis's future then THEY should be "game managing" under Center instead. At least they would have gotten a chance to prove themselves to either the team or future teams. But nope we have to be subjected to a season(or more) of a backup pretending to be a Starter. Sounds harsh, but then again reality is a harsh woman.

It's not about hating it's about LOGIC, and that seems to be missing around here alot lately.

~Ceadder

Exactly , heaven forbid logic should enter into the discussion , Hill is not good , he's not bad he just is , it's not hating , I'm not sure but I think Davis or Smith could make the throws that Hill is being asked to make , his stats for the day were barely better than Jamarcus Russell , come on people open your eyes , I know it's been a long time since the team has been fun to watch but the only thing missing for them to be really good is a QB

History and logic disagree with you on this one...

Maybe History would disagree with Smith , but at this point Davis has no history. Did you see that throw to Morgan if the Rams had anybody who could play corner that is a pick.Just so I'm clear with the logic of your argument any inconsistencies in Hill's game are a) The O Line's fault b) receivers suck c) Jimmy Raye just won't turn him loose so we can all witness the greatness that is Shaun Hill d) all of the above

Wow, when did I ever say "a) The O Line's fault b) receivers suck c) Jimmy Raye just won't turn him loose so we can all witness the greatness that is Shaun Hill d) all of the above?" Is your argument so weak that you have to start making s**t up? Looks like it!

Your logic fails because Davis is a rookie who looked decent in the preseason against 3's; but, struggled against 2's... The history on Smith shows us that he can't make those throws as good as Hill.

I hate when people post stats like that. How in the heck am I supposed to read that. It looks like a jumbled mess of numbers.