Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
LOL... this never ends
The only questions to ask...
Have the 49ers as a team been playing much better football defensively? I think we can all agree that the answer is a big YES.
the one of pure debate is...
Could Alex do AS well or better than Shaun Hill is currently doing? With THAT defense, I'd honestly think YES... but it's impossible to know for sure... and it is what it is. So we should just enjoy the WINS... hope for the best... and let things play out. Hill isn't playing great football, but he's doing enough. I suspect that some people are less happy because they feel the wrong QB is under center and learning as he goes. That is fine, but at least be happy that the team is winning, and Hill is doing "okay" as the starter. It's ugly... it's often boring... but it's somehow working, and we ALL want wins.
I'm happy that we're 3-1. A fan that is not happy with a winning record is not a fan.
But I cannot be happy with a "Game Manager" at QB. Any one of our QBs' could do that. To suggest otherwise is myopic at best.
Here is your logic.
Smith looses a game. "Yeh, well Hill would have lost it as well"
Hill wins a game. "Yeh, well Smith could have won this game as well"
Hill is 10-4 as a starter. If Smith could do this why didn't he? Why didn't he even come close? I know this team is better than before (mostly because we finally have a QB who doesn't turn it over more than he puts in in the endzone...I believe this stat is a FACT). I like FACTS. Lets try some:
-QB rating: Hill>>>>Smith
-TD/INT ratio: Hill>>>>Smith
Just trying to list some FACTS, sorry if they interfere with your logic
Gist of the matter is this...
HILL IS A FREAKING BACKUP QB, WHO IS BENIFITTING FROM OUR RUN ORIENTED OFFENSE AND HAVING A SOLID DEFENSE TO PULL HIS LUCKY @$$ OUT OF THE FIRE.
QUIT TURNING THIS INTO "HILL IS BETTER THAN SMITH, OR SMITH IS BETTER THAN HILL". THAT IS NOT THE FREAKING ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH!!!
I CANNOT SEE HOW I CAN MAKE THIS ANY PLAINER THAN THAT.
I don't hate the guy but it fast getting that way when unknowledgeable posters bust my balls over such a simple thought process.
Hill < whale excrement on the bottom of the ocean so far as I am now concerned. If that means that Smith is too, so f'n be it. I'm tired of people with subpar reading skills telling me what my agenda is when they have no f'n idea other than what I've stated time and again. We have THREE QBs' on this team. Hill cannot be the best can he? It's MY opinion that HELL NO he isn't.
And to answer your question about Smith? You ALREADY know why. But here it is.
4 OCs'... well 3 and a Defensive QB coach turned OC, in 4 years.
Subpar OLine that got him KILLED and squashed by that fat f*ck Rocky Bernard(Thanks to Heitman who didn't even lay a mitt on him) and even then returned to play on a shoulder that for all intents and purposes was hanging on with nothing more than duct tape and dental floss.
A constantly changing WR corps with no. 3 and 4 Receivers playing in Starting roles. Only Battle being the most consistent of the bunch.
Should I go on? I can you know. You tell me that Hill has better stats? No $4|t? Put Hill in the SAME circumstances that Smith had to endure and I guarantee you that Bernard woulda KILLED the man.
[ Edited by Ceadderman on Oct 6, 2009 at 02:23:17 ]