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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
Playmakers needed. Please apply.
QB willing to make the effort to get the ball down field to the open receivers needed...apply today!
Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
Playmakers needed. Please apply.
QB willing to make the effort to get the ball down field to the open receivers needed...apply today!
Originally posted by Dino:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
Playmakers needed. Please apply.
QB willing to make the effort to get the ball down field to the open receivers needed...apply today!
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Originally posted by ObePwnD:Originally posted by tommyncal:
. . . . he is calling the plays that Singletary wants. This is Singletary's philosphy . . conservative, conservative and more conservative. Singletary could override any call that Raye calls. Singletary has done a remarkable job, but I am having trouble getting onboard his bandwagon. You need a qb that defenses have to game plan for. These are the 49ers, where's our legacy?? The game is there to be won with a simple short pass and they can't, or choose not to, make a first down! That's alot of pressure to be put on any defense game after game. Singletary needs to change or the Scott needs to tell him to change.
You new guys, I swear.
Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Look, I think that many people have MISSED this point but here I am once again to make it.
You cannot fault Raye for the loss for 2 reasons.
1)Sing has the overall say of what goes out(Run or Pass) which leads us to,
2)If our coaches were confident in Hill, then the play calling would be different.
Yeah we're a Run first oriented team, but when you are in a close game like we were last weekend then to play to protect the lead is certainly due to fail. Cause the other team is playing to WIN the freakin game.
Put a QB in there that Defenses HAVE TO raspeck and we have a team that people fear. Right now, not so much.
~Ceadder
What the hell is a "raspeck"? Is that Rastafarian respect?
Our coaches have much more confidence in Hill than they do in Smith or Davis. That's why Hill is the starter and not a backup!
Obviously not. Hill was named the Starter cause it was the safer way to go, given that Smith hadn't been on the field in nearly 2 years. Safer don't necessarily stack up to equate with "better". All I know is I'm absolutely fed up with the 3 and outs. Alex may run when he's "not supposed to" but you can't say the man was stuck in the 3 and out mode.
Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
Playmakers needed. Please apply.
QB willing to make the effort to get the ball down field to the open receivers needed...apply today!
it's always the qb more than it is the receivers. Look at TO with buffalo and Garcia compared to McNabb and Romo. I'm behind Hill because he has intangables and leadership, but he is also the reason why receivers are not being thrown to. Just look at Favre with any receiver that came through GB. Receivers not getting the ball is not the OCs fault. It is either the line or the QB would rather throw it between the hash marks.
Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
Playmakers needed. Please apply.
QB willing to make the effort to get the ball down field to the open receivers needed...apply today!
it's always the qb more than it is the receivers. Look at TO with buffalo and Garcia compared to McNabb and Romo. I'm behind Hill because he has intangables and leadership, but he is also the reason why receivers are not being thrown to. Just look at Favre with any receiver that came through GB. Receivers not getting the ball is not the OCs fault. It is either the line or the QB would rather throw it between the hash marks.
I can't believe that Joe actually said something that I agree with. I think that he finally GETS it.
I gotta go kill myself now.
~Ceadder
Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
Playmakers needed. Please apply.
QB willing to make the effort to get the ball down field to the open receivers needed...apply today!
it's always the qb more than it is the receivers. Look at TO with buffalo and Garcia compared to McNabb and Romo. I'm behind Hill because he has intangables and leadership, but he is also the reason why receivers are not being thrown to. Just look at Favre with any receiver that came through GB. Receivers not getting the ball is not the OCs fault. It is either the line or the QB would rather throw it between the hash marks.
I can't believe that Joe actually said something that I agree with. I think that he finally GETS it.
I gotta go kill myself now.
~Ceadder
Joe can be very reasonable, he recognizes the truth of the situation.
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stop blaming raye
Originally posted by superkev49:Originally posted by DynastyChile:
I posted this in another thread, but i wanna challenge the person who made this thread to find fault in my post:
Here's our playbook:
1 wildcat.
1. morgan motion/squat down play to Gore up the middle
1. vernon davis seam up the middle
1. screen to moran norris
1. beautiful deep dig route to Isaac Bruce.
1. Pitch to the outside
oh and he ran a play action off of the motion squat by morgan twice, and it got like 6 yards. Thats probably a good reason why we didnt win the game, but i've been wrong before. Go watch the game again, but jsut watch our offense, and you'll notice how often he uses those 6-7 plays, its a joke.
Couldn't agree more with this poster. It's like we're playing Madden with most of the playbook missing. All the runs between the tackles with the same formation. And worse, it's like someone's little 4 year old brother playing Madden with most of the playbook missing FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! i.e. 100% running when in the lead, and 100% passing when behind.
twice now we've been behind late in the game (Cards/Vikings) and decided to suddenly go passing every down and, to Hill's credit, it has worked. But then as soon as we got the lead we went straight back to running the football EVERY down.
this isn't NFL playcalling, it's high school.
where is the play action? at the moment defenses are commiting so much to the run that on the one or two occasions that Hill ran a playaction, especially with a bootleg in the opposite direction to the run-fake, the QB found himself in loads of room and the D had bitten big style. Why not use that more? It might mean the D can't commit so much to the run and we might break a few.
How about 4 WRs to spread the D and if they respond trying a run up the middle in that formation? How about something to take advantage of fact they were stuffing the box? How about a sweep? A crossing route? A flea flicker? Like I keep saying, if I can predict the play 70% of the time before the snap, professional D-coordinators must be loving it.
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Alex may run when he's "not supposed to" but you can't say the man was stuck in the 3 and out mode.
Originally posted by cNiner:Originally posted by 49wyztoscore:Originally posted by tommyncal:
. . . . he is calling the plays that Singletary wants. This is Singletary's philosphy . . conservative, conservative and more conservative. Singletary could override any call that Raye calls. Singletary has done a remarkable job, but I am having trouble getting onboard his bandwagon. You need a qb that defenses have to game plan for. These are the 49ers, where's our legacy?? The game is there to be won with a simple short pass and they can't, or choose not to, make a first down! That's alot of pressure to be put on any defense game after game. Singletary needs to change or the Scott needs to tell him to change.
Yeah its Raye's fault. We lose our best player on offense and Raye manages to squeeze 2 TD's out in the second half on the road against a top 5 defense and it's his fault. You guys a f**king ridiculous.
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when hill was hot in 4th we should have kept throwing the ball insted run run punt !
Originally posted by Dino:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by MadDog49er:
0 for 11 on third downs.
Somebody has to make a play down the field. We saw Davis do it three times today, but he was the only threat for the day. The WR's were absent in crunch time situations.
Playmakers needed. Please apply.
QB willing to make the effort to get the ball down field to the open receivers needed...apply today!
FREE ALEX!
