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Why would I miss turnovers which = losing?
Maybe I don't understand the question.
Turnovers are generally a part of an aggressive offense.....
So what i'm trying to say is that would you take an aggressive offense with with a few turnovers here and there to one with no turnovers but less aggressive.
-9fA
This team cannot win when they give away the game.
I know you mean that an aggressive offense generally fills the sky full of footballs, but I seem to think that pounding the ball relentlessly can also be described as being aggressive. What's not aggressive about beating the opponent into submission with the run?
I was at the game yesterday and it was quite satisfying to see the Seahawks defense bent over at the waist all tired in the 3rd and 4th quarters. I did not see the 49ers defense tired at all because why? Because we chewed the clock to hell.
This 49er team is far better suited for a ball control offense rather than.....I guess an "aggressive" offense.
I don't miss a Martz offense and I don't miss his face.
PS we had more than just a few turnovers here and there, we lost games because of turnovers. At least 3 or 4.
Come on, I'm happy we're winning but let's call a spade a spade. Our offense is NOT controlling the clock. The reason we've been winning the T.O.P. is because of our DEFENSE.
Wanna see the proof: 3rd down efficiency against ARI: 28%
3rd down efficiency against SEA: 33%
Stop the presses! We're the first "ball control" offense that can't convert on 3rd downs!
We have a joke of an OC and make no mistake, he is gonna cost us some games. We could have blown ARI and SEA out and instead kept them in the game.
My hope is that Singletary seems aware of this issue (from what I've been able to tell from his press conferences).
Don't agree. While our defense has been good, it's partly because the offense is allowing them to rest. It's common football knowledge that the longer the defense is on the field, eventually they will give up points. Only the offense executing all the way down the field, allows the defense to rest and come in fresh.
Ask our defense if they would prefer a Martz offense. Ask our O-line and qb if they would prefer a Martz offense. Ask Frank Gore if he would prefer Martz offense or the "joke of an OC" offense.
I'm all for what wins, and so far the ball control offense is doing just that.
It isn't about agreeing. It's 28 % 3rd down efficiency!!!! Thas a fact, not an opinion. How is our offense allowing them to rest?? THEY CANT STAY ON THE FIELD!
Yes, our D would be MUCH better with Martz offense. At least our O was able to convert more than 30% of the 3rd downs.
What do you mean the offense can't stay on the field?
49ers TOP=31:37
Ariz. TOP=28:23
49ers TOP=34:31
Seattle TOP=25:29
Those numbers are a little skewed given that Sheattle was not able to get back on the field for most of the 4th quarter.
3rd down percentages kill that though, given that we weren't converting alot of our drives. Only think that kept us in the lead were those two 80 yarders that Frank ripped on them.
Of course it doesn't help to run a WC on 3rd and 28. That is solely on Raye.
~Ceadder
lol.. its like complaining Gore had another bad game if you take away the 2 long runs...
our O is winning the TOP battle. and for 2 weeks has had key drives in the 4th quarter.. what more do you want? its not like we have backups who are pro-bowlers that are not playing...
Raye is still new to the team.. he still doesn't trust Shaun Hill, who is learning a new offense and plays OK when asked to pass the ball.
the offensive team that i see we compare with the most is the Vikings.. they have a superstar RB and a passing game that is asked to not f**k up! is favre putting up big numbers.. no.. hes being asked to be a Dilfer QB(play it safe)
If Hill and Raye get going this year and the passing game becomes something the team can rely on.. which can happen.. this 49er team will be scary good! something we all haven't seen in a long time!
