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Regarding Jimmy Raye after WEEK 2...

Regarding Jimmy Raye after WEEK 2...

Unpredictable. I'm not sure it was always a good thing. Got too cute a couple of times, which wasn't needed. Overall he did a good job.
I taped the game and re-watched it. We called the same run play again and again, but it was because it worked for 80 yards. After the 2 long runs, it got stopped again and again, and I didnt like us going back to it so often.
The wildcat has to go...unless maybe MRob can get the ball and the ex-QB can throw a couple to mix it up. Spurlocks pass looked bad.
I love not seeing run run pass punt or run run pass field goal this week. They expected run and we passed and got the ball moving downfield.
The field goals instead of TDs has me bothered. Yeah we're 2-0 and thats a great feeling, but I notice all too often that we get in the RZ and settle on a FG. 3 points at a time aint gonna do it. Our TDs today? Gore breaking it for 80 each time. Not going to happen every game. Get it in the endzone offense, this aint the Joe Nedney show.
I hate to sound like Im b***hin up a storm, Im not really, I love our D so far and love mixing it up on the O, and love even more that we're 2-0. I think we have a shot next week, pressure Fav-rah and stop AP and we got ourselves a game.
Better game from Raye, but we need red zone TDs, not FGs.
  • flow
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If and when Gore isn't in the game, we would see how good/bad Raye really is.
^^ Yeah i noticed that as well.

Both 80 yard TDs looked like they were the same play call.

-9fA
Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
^^ Yeah i noticed that as well.

Both 80 yard TDs looked like they were the same play call.

-9fA

Exactly, then we went back to play again and again and again. Gotta mix it up more. Dont blame 'em for trying, but I could tell exactly what play was being run so Im sure their D was loving it.
He's been OK. I think he's actually constructed a pretty decent passing game, and I like the designs of the screen plays.

But what I hated today was after the first Gore TD, the next possession we went pass for 5 yards, incomplete pass, then that wildcat bull s**t.

I don't mind the pass on first down because variation is a good thing, but on a 2nd and 5 you have to go back to the run, which was working so well.

And don't even get me start on the wild cat. We're not a team for that stuff.
I would like to see more playaction calls from Raye. I also would like to see more variation in the running plays called. Maybe some counters,sweeps,traps,etc. I also agree that the taser was used in a couple of situations where I would prefer hill to be in there including the one long 3rd down. So far the playcalling has been Hostler-ish and I really hope he opens the offense a bit next week cause you can't expect to run the ball down the middle with the William bros in there. Hopefully Brandon Jones makes his season debut too.
all i have to say is 2-0, he made one or two questionable calls but nothing is perfect....you guys need to stop whinning all the time, stop it already
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Originally posted by Daniel2778:
all i have to say is 2-0, he made one or two questionable calls but nothing is perfect....you guys need to stop whinning all the time, stop it already

We were 2-0 (both in our division) under Hostler too and that didn't turn out so well.
Let's not be naive.

I don't have any major problems with Raye at this point. I like the idea of sticking with our base packages and involving the tight end more that is certainly an improvement from last year. Our OL still has major issues. This Crabtree pick is looking like it could set us back for years since we didn't grab Oher. I hope Pashos can pick up on things quickly, he's a league average RT which is better than what we've had the past few years with Harris, Sims, Glassman & now Snyder.

Shaun Hill has maybe 2 plays a game where you wonder if he's a high school QB. These throws from the far hash to the sidelines are barely making it to the other hash mark. His arm is really brutal. The good news is, he really comes across as a "smart" QB who can really avoid making the major mistakes. Alex, JTO, Rattay, you name 'em, post-Garcia this team was held back by QBs that always made big mistakes in crucial parts of the game.

I think this team has been winning in spite of the offense not because of it. That's not a bad thing per se, but there definitely needs to be improvement on the line and in involving Josh Morgan more. We're setting ourselves up nicely to be like the Steelers when they drafted Big Ben, or the Jets with Sanchez or Ravens with Flacco. Good D, strong run game etc. The only weakness with bringing in a young QB next year is the line still needs to form up. The Jets, Ravens and old Steelers had great lines that protected the QB. A FA signing at RT in the off-season could help solidify things, maybe a strong LG to replace Baas.
[ Edited by RKab on Sep 21, 2009 at 6:42 AM ]
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Originally posted by Winners:
That last Taser play he called SHOULD have been a first down, but Spurlock missed him. Robinson would have made that pass. Had that ball not been overthrown, you would have called Raye a genius for that call.

He called a WAY better game, and I was critical last week. I like how he faked the draw on third down (because we had run that play twice the week before). I was very impressed with the play calling on those runs. Brilliant!

I doubt it. Why put the ball in the hands of a "former" QB ? Take chances with your real one. Again, a lot of people like to use the "lack of faith in Hill" argument, but the point is moot. Hill has proven in 2 straight games that he can finish games when it counts. So whats Raye's deal ?

Thats the whole point of the wildcat/taser the threat of running to suck the defense in. If the play was executed right it wouldn't have even been a problem
Dear Jimmy Raye,

Please take the 'Wildcat' out behind the barn, shoot it in the face multiple times, bury it, and never speak its name again.

Signed,

Baltien
To those who say the Seahawks screwed themselves with penalties, bad snaps and such fail to see what's going on. The Seachickens were playing scared. When your opponent is scared they'll screw up. Other then the wild-cat (why must every team have a wild-cat?) I'm happy.
i understand why some people call us the 40whiners.

We won. Get over it. Please find me a team whose playcalling you agree with 100% every play.
I love the complaing! 2-0 and 2-0 in the division. If it wasnt for a few penalties (punt return TD) and the 10 minute FG drive (Delanie Walker catch) Niners could have blown the Seahawks out.

Remember its early, Brandon Jones will be coming back and the Oline will only get better. Heres to going 3-0!

ps Stay positive!
Originally posted by baltien:
Dear Jimmy Raye,

Please take the 'Wildcat' out behind the barn, shoot it in the face multiple times, bury it, and never speak its name again.

Signed,

Baltien

Co sign but besides those wildcat plays I think he did a good job this week.