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As the season starts, a second look at our offseason

Like many on here, I was shocked at how little we did to address our biggest needs during the off season. However, there are those who really seemed to think that secondary level FA signings and late round picks, UDFA's and rookies in general might make a big impact on this team.

Now that we know our roster, let's take a second look at our off season and see what moves we made that look like they will actually improve the team.

FA Signings:

Damon Huard - Supposed to be the vet leader/backup we needed: CUT

Marvel Smith - Supposed to be the answer at RT because we knew something the Steelers didn't when they let him go: RETIRED

Brandon Jones - Has been hurt and has barely played. Obviously will not be in sync with the QBs and offense when/if he is healthy. May make some kind of impact by mid season if we are lucky. May be banged up all year if we are not.

Demetric Evans - Certainly has not provided any significant help with the pass rush. A backup player at best. Could sub him with pretty much any other backup DE in the league and you wouldn't know the difference.

Those where our "big" FA signings and two aren't on the team and the other two don't seem to matter much. As emergency signings Dre Bly and now Tony Pashos (if it's true we've signed him) will be our "big" FA signings. And they are guys from the scrap heap.

The Draft and UDFA:

Rd1 -Crabtree - Unsigned and now unlikely to make an impact this year even if he signs.

Rd2 - Traded

Rd3 - Coffee - Made the team and looks to be a great pickup. Perhaps the only addition to the team who will make a real impact this year.

Rd4 - No pick

Rd5 - McKillop - Made the team and looks ok, but unlikely to make a significant impact this year.

Rd5 - Davis - Made the team as the 3rd QB. Looks like he has some potential for the future and may even play some this year. But will not have compete for even the backup job until next year barring injuries.

Rd6 - Pascoe - CUT - Didn't even make the practice squad

Rd7 - Taylor - Made the team, but again, looks to be a backup player at best, and is unlikely to see much playing time barring injuries this year.

RD7 - RJF - See above.

UDFAs:

Alex Boone, Kory Sheets - Like RJF were considered major steals by many (3rd/4th round values) who shouldn't have slipped and could be major factors this year. Reality? Like most UDFAs, they are practice squad bound even after fairly strong showings in the preseason.


So, after all the discussion and debate. How is our roster improved by our offseason moves?

A backup RB who although he looks good, Sing has already said will not see many carries as "21 GETS THE ROCK" is his motto. And of course, RB was our one position of strength already. So it looks like a nice pickup, but at the one place it was least necessary.

And a 3rd string QB, who may have some potential down the road, but right now can't beat out (and isn't being given the chance to), two of the weakest QBs in the NFL.

Other than that it's backups and guys who may mean something to the team in a year or two if we are lucky.

So, really, we are the exact same team as last year, with virtually no improvement coming from off season moves other than a better backup RB.

Throw in a "rookie" HC, who even though he does certain things well, still has a learning curve as a HC in the NFL and a new OC (AGAIN!), who will take some time to have the team gel to another new system, and it's hard to imagine how we will be a better team than last year coming out of the gate.

We can hope, and try to count on "another year of experience" for our younger players, but every team in the NFL has that. We really have done next to nothing to improve our team for this year. Every move we have made, is one that MIGHT pay off down the road, but nothing we have done is likely to make us any better right now.
Now I'm depressed...
I agree. I don't see how McCloughan isn't getting crucified for not adding talent to a team desperate to improve. In the 49ers position, how do you:
1. Trade away your 2nd round pick?
2. Not draft or acquire some pass rush help?
3. Not draft or acquire some RT help? (Marvel Smith doesn't count, we signed him to an incentive laden contract because nobody else would take the risk on his bad back.)

The only player that might make a real impact this year is Bly - and he was only signed due to an injury. So that shouldn't count as a McCloughan "good move" either.

Add to that the apparent decline in Clements play, and that may turn out to be an $80mm mistake. Justin Smith is a very hard worker, but his signing was supposed to shore up the d-line and pass rush. That solution has not worked either.

The failure of this team clearly lies at McCloughan's feet.
We also moved Roman out of FS and put Goldson in. We have Bly and Brown and Spencer in as DBs. Clements may be on his way out. Harolson will be playing OLB for the whole season. Lawson is healthy. RJF made the 53, McDonald has had corrective knee surgery. We also have Reggie Smith playing great at Safety. So lots of improvement in my opinion on Defense. So now we will see if this translates into more turnovers and more sacks and more pressure.

Offense - we have Hill for the whole season. We will clearly have a run oriented, ball control, fhysically beating offense, clearn and simple. Hill will be asked to manage the game, pass as often as necessary. VD seems, and the offense seems more geared to TE play. So this will be VDs last year unless he busts out. Gore and Coffee will provide the pounding, Sheets may work himself into the action.

So it will be a plain and simple ground and pound offense. 9 wins. Mostly 24-21 wins.
Originally posted by TexasNiner:
Like many on here, I was shocked at how little we did to address our biggest needs during the off season. However, there are those who really seemed to think that secondary level FA signings and late round picks, UDFA's and rookies in general might make a big impact on this team.

Now that we know our roster, let's take a second look at our off season and see what moves we made that look like they will actually improve the team.

FA Signings:

Damon Huard - Supposed to be the vet leader/backup we needed: CUT

Marvel Smith - Supposed to be the answer at RT because we knew something the Steelers didn't when they let him go: RETIRED

Brandon Jones - Has been hurt and has barely played. Obviously will not be in sync with the QBs and offense when/if he is healthy. May make some kind of impact by mid season if we are lucky. May be banged up all year if we are not.

Demetric Evans - Certainly has not provided any significant help with the pass rush. A backup player at best. Could sub him with pretty much any other backup DE in the league and you wouldn't know the difference.

Those where our "big" FA signings and two aren't on the team and the other two don't seem to matter much. As emergency signings Dre Bly and now Tony Pashos (if it's true we've signed him) will be our "big" FA signings. And they are guys from the scrap heap.

The Draft and UDFA:

Rd1 -Crabtree - Unsigned and now unlikely to make an impact this year even if he signs.

Rd2 - Traded

Rd3 - Coffee - Made the team and looks to be a great pickup. Perhaps the only addition to the team who will make a real impact this year.

Rd4 - No pick

Rd5 - McKillop - Made the team and looks ok, but unlikely to make a significant impact this year.

Rd5 - Davis - Made the team as the 3rd QB. Looks like he has some potential for the future and may even play some this year. But will not have compete for even the backup job until next year barring injuries.

Rd6 - Pascoe - CUT - Didn't even make the practice squad

Rd7 - Taylor - Made the team, but again, looks to be a backup player at best, and is unlikely to see much playing time barring injuries this year.

RD7 - RJF - See above.

UDFAs:

Alex Boone, Kory Sheets - Like RJF were considered major steals by many (3rd/4th round values) who shouldn't have slipped and could be major factors this year. Reality? Like most UDFAs, they are practice squad bound even after fairly strong showings in the preseason.


So, after all the discussion and debate. How is our roster improved by our offseason moves?

A backup RB who although he looks good, Sing has already said will not see many carries as "21 GETS THE ROCK" is his motto. And of course, RB was our one position of strength already. So it looks like a nice pickup, but at the one place it was least necessary.

And a 3rd string QB, who may have some potential down the road, but right now can't beat out (and isn't being given the chance to), two of the weakest QBs in the NFL.

Other than that it's backups and guys who may mean something to the team in a year or two if we are lucky.

So, really, we are the exact same team as last year, with virtually no improvement coming from off season moves other than a better backup RB.

Throw in a "rookie" HC, who even though he does certain things well, still has a learning curve as a HC in the NFL and a new OC (AGAIN!), who will take some time to have the team gel to another new system, and it's hard to imagine how we will be a better team than last year coming out of the gate.

We can hope, and try to count on "another year of experience" for our younger players, but every team in the NFL has that. We really have done next to nothing to improve our team for this year. Every move we have made, is one that MIGHT pay off down the road, but nothing we have done is likely to make us any better right now.

I think your assessment of the 9ers draft is a bit on the glass is half-empty side, but you are otherwise spot on. The 9ers basically didn't do anything in the off-season to markedly improve this team.
There were others that you seemed to forget. Foerester was handed over the line last year and they seemed to improve, that should carry over to this season. Snyder was givin the opportunity to settle at one position and if he can stay healthy should be a major upgrade for rt. Tom Rathman was brought in which I believe we are already seeing positive results considering the lack of fumbles in the preseason. We actually have a QB coach that knows alittle about coaching a QB witch we should see beniffits from this year and into the future. Goldson earned a spot as a playmaker which was desperatly needed at safety. T.K.O. was resighned this year and is playing like a mad man. T. Brown has looked good and will probally be starting. We also get Spencer back witch is a solid nickle and possible starter. There will be others that will get playing time that the previous regime would never have alowed. You can count on Singletary holding everyone accountable or they will be on the bench.
This is all very true!

However, the things that we HAVE to hope will improve this team.

1) The new mindset of the HC going into the season. Singletary did take a terrible team last year and made them respectable. Hopefully, that will carry through to this season. Run the rock, limit turnovers, a top 10 defense.

2) New OC that is more attune with the players and strengths of this offense. It'll be a heavy dose of a running game with more TE plays and bootlegs/play actions. This SHOULD be how our offense looks and if that is the case we should have less turnovers and greater efficiency.

3) Full 3-4 Defensive system with continuity at the DC position. This should translate to a much more fluid and confident defense. With the additions of Goldson and Bly we should see a few more INTs. IF Haralson can continue his growth and Lawson finds himself like his Nebraska days we should see an increase in sacks. Most likely not a huge increase in the number of sacks than last year---maybe add 5-6...which when looking at 2008 numbers would put us in the top 10 in sacks).

4) Hopefully a solid line that can gel by week 6. Usually defenses dominate in the first half of the season. If this line can stay healthy and learn from their mistakes, then we should see a better performance by around week 7. Let's hope that our team is 3-3 or 4-2 instead of 1-5.

5) With the return of Brandon Jones by week 3 or 4 this team should see more teams respecting the pass because of our receivers. ALSO...Shaun Hill has got to play at least the same as last year...if not better for this to occur.

***So...all in all...these things are going to need to happen for the Niners to have a 9-7 or 10-6 record. I really do think it can but who knows. If a combination of these things do not then it'll probably be another 7-9 or 6-10 season. Which will suck.
Summed it up pefectly


Rams>49ers we will finish last in the division
Agreed. I've thought for some time now that our front office is clueless. Any person who's looked at our pass rush the past five years can make this simple observation.

Why use the 74th overall on a backup running back, when this team has so many other needs? Hell, James Davis, a fifth rounder, is going to be the starter in Cleveland by the end of this year.

P.S. This front office was obviously blindsided by the Crabtree negotiations. Back in April, I knew this would be a mess. How were they so clueless that they presumed they could pick up a premium player in the draft for a discount price. The writing was on the wall that Crabtree would not settle for tenth slot money.

[ Edited by MadDog49er on Sep 7, 2009 at 09:19:28 ]
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Summed it up pefectly


Rams>49ers we will finish last in the division

How so?
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Summed it up pefectly


Rams>49ers we will finish last in the division

Wow
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Summed it up pefectly


Rams>49ers we will finish last in the division

Wow

Yeah -- let's not go too far.
Imo the rams are very underrated they had injuries last year to bulger and the line. I really like steve and think he will be a good coach. I dont like singeltary I didnt want him to be our coach he is all talk thats it you can only play so good with heart. I think we will have the worst offense in the league this year maybe better than detroit. We overrate every player on this team by alot!
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Summed it up pefectly


Rams>49ers we will finish last in the division

Wow

So why are we better than the rams???
Because we won a couple more games than them last year? because we have Gore?? Jackson> Gore. Beacuse we have a fantastic QB in Hill or Smith or Davis LOL!! Im sorry im not expecting anything out of this team this year we dont have anything on O its the same s**t every year we over hype people based on TC and Preseason....its PRACTICE VD yet again will dissapoint Josh Morgan wayyy overhyped he didnt s**t last year. Gore isnt a top 5 back anymore our D is shaky Nate is losing a step and we have ZERO passrush
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Originally posted by bigmur49:
Now I'm depressed...

Me too, unfortunately the OP's assessment appears pretty accurate.