Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by jame-gumb:
Mel Kiper, Mike Mayok, et al thought he was a top-3 talent. NFL teams thought he was the No. 10 talent. If Crabtree wants top-3 money, he should talk to the analysts.
That might be oversimplified, but it's the point. Crabtree thinks he's better than DHB and wants to be paid like it. The bottom line is that worth is defined only as the price someone is willing to pay. The price SF is willing to pay is fair. If Crabtree doesn't like it, he can sit out a year and take less money next year AND earn $0 this year.
Have factual evidence NFL teams thought he was a top 10 and not top 3 talent ?
Detroit - Has Calvin Johnson, needed a face for the franchise. Drafted a top 5 player but not top 3.
St.Louis - Drafted a likely top 3 talent. Had they not had such a porous OL they may have drafted Curry, Crabtree or gone with a new face of the franchise in Sanchez as their QB situation looks dim.
KC- Already has a #1 WR in Dwayne Bowe. Switched to a new base scheme on defense and lack the personnel to run it so reached for a 5 technique. Probably would have preferred to trade down since they had no 2nd rounder but the cost was too much for other teams to do so when you factor in the money you have to pay the guy you take here.
Seattle - Took what looked like one of the 2 best players in the draft and JP's replacement. Also had just invested a lot in Housh and Burleson and Branch also have a lot invested in them.
Cleveland - Traded down with the NYJ (picks # 17 & 52 + DE Kenyon Coleman, DB Abram Elam, QB Brett Ratlif....17 & 52 = #9 according to the chart and Elam and Coleman are starters on the Browns roster).
Cincy - Are seemingly deep at WR (85, signed Coles, have Henry + and 2nd and 3rd round draft pick from 2008 draft pick). Had HUGE holes at OT, took a chance on Andre Smith, but I'd bet Crabtree would have graded out higher by their scouts.
Oakland - No 40 time registered = Al Davis won't draft you.
Jacksonville - Needed help at WR and at OT. Ended up spending first 2 picks on OT's to have bookend tandem to put in front of teams best player MJD.
GB - A GM who almost always selects BPA regardless of position took the DL here as they are also switching base schemes and questions and concerns with some of their current DL talent. Came away with a kid who fits both the 1 gap and 2 gap scheme and can play the nose or the 5 tech.
Seems most teams decided to fill needs as opposed to selecting the BPA. Outside of the Jets no team traded up into the top 10, as again it is costly especially when factoring in what one has to also pay the draft pick as well.
great points, and this highlights again why you have to base these negotiations on reality, not on mock drafts. Teams make decisions on draft day for one reason or another: either they didn't think they needed Crabtree, or they needed someone else more, or they just had others players rated higher than him. If they Raiders had DHB rated higher than Crabs, well, that's their prerogative, and that's the reality. Crabtree might be a top-3 talent, but being a talent and a selection are two different things.