Originally posted by B650:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by PTulini:Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:Originally posted by 49ers1fan1982:Originally posted by Super5:Originally posted by Afrikan:
a couple of more LIES some of these posters try to spew..... it is hilarious...
I read someone posted that if "[b]Hill's Offense continues to struggle on third down bla bla bla" Hill's offense???? THIS IS RAYE'S OFFENSE!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, STOP POSTING!
also we have another LAIR who is trying to give off the impression that our Home Crowd Booed Hill off the field, again...
EVERYONE GOT BOOED THAT DAY!! The Defense got Booed, The Offense got Booed, the dropped passes caused Boos....the dumb moves made by Morgan and Bly caused Boos....HILL getting sacked in 2 seconds caused boos....
STOP SPREADING OUT BS!
but continue the because Shaun Hill is the 49er starter....where as fans who have any sense (like some in this thread) know that our problem starts first and foremost at the most important area for a football team, the trenches.
I can't wait till I see my 49er starting QB play in 2 weeks....and root my team on....as well as Root on my backup QB who is doing a fine, by assisting his Starting QB, Shaun Hill, at getting ready for opposing defenses....
Great Job Shaun..... and Great Job Alex....
So I don't know WTF I'm talking about??
Let me dumb down my statement for those who no comprende-SHAUN HILL RUNS JIMMY RAYE'S OFFENSE(HE IS THE QB)and is not doing a very good job at it.The NFL stats don't lie so go on that.The problem starts in the trenches with Hill at QB but not when Smith is at QB right????
If no improvement soon there needs to be a change(Smith or Davis) because
I WANT WINNERS
You rant SO MUCH you're all twisted up in your own BS.So you live your life on the zone so what that's your trip,doesn't mean you run this zone so don't tell me or anybody else to stop posting!
interesting when hill does bad its the OC fault but when smith does bad its his fault? makes no sense
My thoughts exactly!
Not to jump in on it, but I have a difficult time refraining. It's rather appalling to me that things like OC and OL, that were considered "Alexcuses" are now valid reasoning behind Hill's mediocrity. I don't like that we're operating under double standards here. Let's keep it level.
To an outsider looking at all of this now, I wouldn't be surprised if they felt Alex was the better QB. Maybe, maybe not. I'm not saying -- I'm just saying..
This all isn't about Shaun or Alex, it's about this team and what will help us win, both now and in the future.
I'm not trying to knock Hill, nor am I trying to elevate Alex; it's just important that people get off their high horse trying to proclaim Hill's something special or "so superior" or a "winner" compared to Alex, as if Alex can't win games. Alex can win. Hill can win. But his play has been shaky this year, and if people can at least admit that, it will go a long way in easing this "debate."
Hills record is inflated due to the poor teams he's faced.
Since 2007, Hill has only played against 7 teams with winning records (that includes this season, too, based on current records). His record against those teams with winning records is 2-5, with his only notable victory coming against New York last year at home. His other win was against Tampa at home in 2007 when they had pulled their starting defenders after learning they had already clinched a playoff birth.
Now, to be fair, Alex didn't beat any winning teams as a rookie, and was 3-5 against winning teams in 2006. Though two of those wins came on the road in very hostile environments, one being against a team who needed a win to make the playoffs. We know that was Denver, whom Alex drove us down for the game-winning score against. Now, 2007 is a bit too small of a sample size among healthy games, but if you want to add that in, he lost on the road against the AFC North Division Champs, Pittsburgh.
I just want to see Hill play well on the road and beat someone. If he can beat Houston and/or Indy, that'll impress me.
And if he can't win either, he should be benched.
I agree. If he shows nothing, and helps in dropping us to 3-4, changes could -- and I'm guessing would -- be made.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Oct 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM ]